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loopa wrote:I have never been clear on this fact/rumor, but is it true that if you go to ROUGE, you have no chance of ever coming back to mainline? And that if you go to mainline and get pushed to rouge, you have a spot at mainline?

All of the above applied for initial hires obviously.

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loopa,

Not sure where you heard this but its false kind of. Your hired as an Air Canada pilot, when you start you course your given a number and your class will be told what equipment is available to bid on, Mainline aircraft or Rouge aircraft or both. As of now most all positions are Rouge because this is where the growth is. When your awarded your position as a new hire your frozen in this position for 4 years unless it don't require training (rouge 319 to mainline 320 your not frozen, rouge 767 to Mainline 767 not frozen for 4 years) according to new contract. But this is at companies discretion as well.

We have an equipment bid every 2 months if your number can hold mainline then you can go, or if your mainline you can bid Rouge if you wish. The only other "freeze" is bidding from Rouge to Mainline you can't bid back to Rouge for 2 years.

And yes if you get pushed to Rouge you have reinstatement rights back to your former position at mainline. And if you choose to use your reinstatement right you go back to your former equipment before anyone else.


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Another pool update via email.

Feb. 17th PIT course has been filled with 10 new hires.
There will be a PIT course starting Mar 3rd of at least 10 new hires.
Also, they are saying an April PIT course of some size is looking likely.

New pilot bid on Feb 4th should hopefully give us poolies an idea if this hiring will continue!
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Is the pool not drained by now? Any idea when The app window will open?
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They've only hired 20 pilots since last summer, so lots left in the pool.

There will still be over 50 after the Feb group.
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Have the calls gone out for the March 3rd GS?

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Any calls for the March course anybody?
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Any word on the latest bid? Wasn't it supposed to be out today?
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newcomer wrote:Any word on the latest bid? Wasn't it supposed to be out today?
49 Vacancies all in YYZ, it closes in a week but openings for new hires look likely for rouge 767/ 319 FO's and 787 RP's.
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Thank you!
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TheStig wrote:
newcomer wrote:Any word on the latest bid? Wasn't it supposed to be out today?
49 Vacancies all in YYZ, it closes in a week but openings for new hires look likely for rouge 767/ 319 FO's and 787 RP's.

See........ the advantages of getting a flying job at Air Canada, right off the street and into the latest and greatest B787. Even though an RP position you still get trained on that fine machine. If I wore a younger man's clothes and was so lucky to be given consideration by AC, I know what airline I would be heading to.

Beat that WJ/Porter/Jazz/Encore et al........

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March PIT course will have 20 pilots now. Not sure what is driving this increase in hiring considering the two previous bids have shown less than spectacular. But oh well! Can't hurt!
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See........ the advantages of getting a flying job at Air Canada, right off the street and into the latest and greatest B787. Even though an RP position you still get trained on that fine machine. If I wore a younger man's clothes and was so lucky to be given consideration by AC, I know what airline I would be heading to.

Beat that WJ/Porter/Jazz/Encore et al........
Ahhhh .. Maybe I'm missing something here, but your post doesn't make much sense considering the other airlines don't operate the aircraft type that your touting as the holy grail of the airline industry. My opinion is that the type of airplane you fly at the end of the day means nothing if your flying it for peanuts.

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Aaaaaand you don't really get this job right off the street
like you mentioned ... Best case scenario is more 3 to 5 years ...
Never for some ...
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gearDown2green wrote:Aaaaaand you don't really get this job right off the street
like you mentioned ... Best case scenario is more 3 to 5 years ...
Never for some ...
Thought the initial post(The Stig) said "new hire positions.........." I assumed that meant B787RP as mentioned. Appreciate the correction.

LOC

Speaking of the "peanut gallery" I would prefer to sample from AC with it's route structure and diverse aircraft types than say Encore and Q400 and similar. Hey, just like you that is my opinion. You may be right though '67 '77 '87 just another examples of wide-body aircraft and the latter being the new version aka Win 8.1 speaking of which, this is what I run now. So as you can see I like things shining and new.

Take care and enjoy life
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B787RP should be a new hire position. I think what 2green was referring to is that they won't just take anyone with a CPL, it will take some years before getting a chance of being hired.

Anyway, back to the pool info. This shouldn't be a love/hate thread for AC.
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gearDown2green wrote:Aaaaaand you don't really get this job right off the street
like you mentioned ... Best case scenario is more 3 to 5 years ...
Never for some ...
I did say 787RP. For what its worth 2green, "off the street" is an industry phrase that refers to pilots being hired at a mainline carrier that didn't "flow through" from a feeder carrier.
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updated bid shows 39 new hires instead of 49.
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The application window has opened once again.
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How many in March gs?
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How long does HR take to reply after a submission?
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aycarumba wrote:How long does HR take to reply after a submission?
As in a new application?

Could be quick, could be never, or somewhere in between. I think it's a point system, likely on a curve of some sort, that determines who gets called... and sometimes just luck. I think it was 8 years for them to get back to me...
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It's automated - there is no human interaction. HR will simply tell the program to spit out the next 20 names for them to call - when they are ready to call for interviews. You are racked and stacked according to how your application rates against others.
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If that's the case I doubt that it means the more hours the higher your points.

Some very low time people with nothing but single engine piston time have gotten the calls and hired.

Yet multi PIC... Operational exp etc not even called.

Its not a perfect science.
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