Air Canada Interviews

[HavaJava]

Thanks for the info hud91gt. Are the only ones getting calls for interviews guys with collage programs. are guys getting hired right now without collage programs. Thanks again everyone.

I didn't realize there were programs specifically for collages. Do I have to go to an art school for one of these? Here is a nice collage I found on the internet...I wonder if there are any online collage programs?



Or perhaps you would prefer a Justin Beiber collage?

[Sage]

Hahaha! That's hilarious Hava!! Could there be a better argument to hire pilots with post secondary education? Haha!

[ywg9]

lmao i like the first one better and yes they probably did have special programs to make something that great. so perhaps i should read what i write before i hit the post key lol...or learn to spell. but now how about the guys getting interviewed/hired do they all have college programs. thanks again guys

[DH772]

Reading up on what excatly counts as an incident according to TC. It shows loss of separation as one. Does this mean under the "have you ever had any accidents/incidents?" section I should include that TCAS RA as being an incident? Anyone confirm this?

[bcflyer]

Was there an incident report filled out for it? Is there a record of it happening anywhere? If yes then you best disclose it to them. In my experience having an incident/accident isn't nearly as big a deal as hiding an incident/accident.

There are pilots at AC that had incidents/accidents in their previous lives and got hired just fine.

[DH772]

Good point. But I suppose you are right. Better to have it in open then to hide something even if it seems microscopic and to no fault of your own. Thanks for the response

[4hrstovegas]

Hava... I laughed so hard I nearly farted! Classic!

YWG9, good on ya for having a sense of humour. That's the kind of attitude they're looking for....

[ywg9]

If you cant laugh at yourself who can you laugh at. Now I just have to figure out the magic behind the online application lol

[FL020]

4500+ hrs, 500 large jet, 2000mpic large turboprop, college diploma, french,2nd pfo....

Probably wont re-apply.

[Krashman]

Interviewed July 28th, medical the middle of september, Pfo'd Oct 7

3000+TT 1000+turbine MPIC, Degree

Will re apply in 6 months

[Xander]

I wonder for how long will they be able to PFO such quality candidates as this amazing rate....

There is no logic at all in this.

[scopiton]

for as long as they have candidates over 1500 with all the specified requirements may be ?

[pc-12]

Interviewed on Sept 6th, got PFO'd October 6th.... 3000hrs TT, almost only turbine, +1000hrs captain 703-704, 300hrs 705, EFIS, Abroad experience, bilingual, college diploma (not aviation related).

[whiteguy]

I wonder for how long will they be able to PFO such quality candidates as this amazing rate....

There is no logic at all in this.

Just because they have the time doesn't mean quality! Just saying.

[Mig29]

Interviewed on Sept 6th, got PFO'd October 6th.... 3000hrs TT, almost only turbine, +1000hrs captain 703-704, 300hrs 705, EFIS, Abroad experience, bilingual, college diploma (not aviation related).

I'm sorry to hear that my friend, but I believe they want (presently) aviation diploma OR university degree. That could be why you got the letter...

[merlin]

If that was why, then why did they bother to interview?

[Mclovin]

If that was why, then why did they bother to interview?

"That's like asking the square root of a million, no one will ever know"
-Nelson Munz

[Xander]

I wonder for how long will they be able to PFO such quality candidates as this amazing rate....

There is no logic at all in this.

Just because they have the time doesn't mean quality! Just saying.

I get you brother, but i'm not only talking only about time here. I personally know guys who have been PFO'd and I can't figure out why. Those guys would be perfect for AC in my opinion. (I know, I'm not HR)

There is nothing to understand.

[jebron lames]

Any PFOs from the last round been offered a second interview?

4000TT with all the bells and whistles. Interviewed fall 2010, rejected spring 2011. Immediately after PFO, received an email stating I had met all the requirements but have yet to hear a thing.

[vortac]

5000tt, Degree & College Av Diploma, 3000k Transport Jet & Turbine, Multi turbine pic, multiple languages

PFO'd in Sep 2011

Won't re-apply

[sepia]

To all those who claim no interest in reapplying:

You need to look at this logically. Just because you weren't selected this time doesn't make the job any worse. Is flying a 777 making 250k/yr with a 130k/yr pension now suddenly no good because of your perceived slight? I just don't get this angry at the system attitude. I know it's cliche, but you're only spiting yourself here. You're going to deny yourself the chance at getting on with one of the VERY FEW good aviation jobs in Canada because you didn't make it on the first try?

To the two won't reapply guys. Your flight time was obviously enough to get you the interview. That WASN'T the problem. Why not look critically at yourself and figure out why this happened? Do you know how to interview in a behavioral interview? Do you understand how to properly format your answers to get an optimum score on that type of test? Do you understand how at psych test like the ones used at AC work? Do you know specifically which tests they use, and what they actually test for? Can you fathom how competitive this is? They're hiring 20/month, and likely interviewing magnitudes of that number each month. Everyone has the time and qualifications to get the job when they interview you. Once you enter that interview you become the master of your own destiny.

[FL020]

To all those who claim no interest in reapplying:

You need to look at this logically. Just because you weren't selected this time doesn't make the job any worse. Is flying a 777 making 250k/yr with a 130k/yr pension now suddenly no good because of your perceived slight? I just don't get this angry at the system attitude. I know it's cliche, but you're only spiting yourself here. You're going to deny yourself the chance at getting on with one of the VERY FEW good aviation jobs in Canada because you didn't make it on the first try?

To the two won't reapply guys. Your flight time was obviously enough to get you the interview. That WASN'T the problem. Why not look critically at yourself and figure out why this happened? Do you know how to interview in a behavioral interview? Do you understand how to properly format your answers to get an optimum score on that type of test? Do you understand how at psych test like the ones used at AC work? Do you know specifically which tests they use, and what they actually test for? Can you fathom how competitive this is? They're hiring 20/month, and likely interviewing magnitudes of that number each month. Everyone has the time and qualifications to get the job when they interview you. Once you enter that interview you become the master of your own destiny.

SEPIA,

Let's get things straight here.
1) the Days of making 250k/yr flying a 777 are over my friend. You may see the 777 for your last 2 or 3 years of your career with a good schedule, and when you do hold the seniority to bid the machine, you'll sit on reserve. Grrreat few last year at "the" airline of choice....How about properly manage your finances through the early years, and you aint gonna need the 250 k a year at the end!

2) VERY FEW good aviation jobs in Canada???? You're kidding me right? Making 38k a year, working 18 days a month, deadheading overseas in Y, and having one of the worst reserve systems in the world is one of the best Jobs In Canada?? OH I forgot, you;ll have to pay now to commute on your own airline...... Dont get me wrong I DID apply twice, but my young age seems to be getting the better part of me. I figured I was young enough to put up with the 5 yrs of initial bullshit that this airline offered. Even after 10yrs, the junior captains are working 85 hrs, and 18 days. Dont even let me get into commuting . AC isnt the end all of end all's. It's not the airline it used to be, and by the way things are moving it certainly isn't going to be the best place to be for a long time, UNLESS you are looking to make 130k a year flying a 767 for a low cost carrier working CARs RULES.....-but- we'll leave that for the next conversation.

3) Is that what the recruiters are really looking for, a formatted answer????? NOT a real, honest, forthright answer that comes from real experience? I know of several f$#@ ups that have bullshat their way through several serious court proceedings and gotten hired at AC!! I know of a couple friends that have done more drugs than cobain, and have successfully been hired. I suppose If I learn how to lie, properly bullshit, and kiss some recruiter arse I may get the job on the third try.....oh I forgot, im not re-applying. I must ask, if someting is so F'ed up on your interview/medical that they aren't going to hire ya now why the email stating to apply? Why didnt the recruiters know I came through there already? If a guy isn't getting hired now, exactly what will change when you re-apply, interview, and re-do that god damn psych test?


That's it for now
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[Mig29]

You may see the 777 for your last 2 or 3 years of your career with a good schedule, and when you do hold the seniority to bid the machine, you'll sit on reserve.

Gotta agree with him on that. But then again a lot of guys are retiring soon, so that may change.

UNLESS you are looking to make 130k a year flying a 767 for a low cost carrier working CARs RULES.

That may be a harsh reality for some new hires...but again, let's not get into that for now.

3) Is that what the recruiters are really looking for, a formatted answer????? NOT a real, honest, forthright answer that comes from real experience? I know of several f$#@ ups that have bullshat their way through several serious court proceedings and gotten hired at AC!! I know of a couple friends that have done more drugs than cobain, and have successfully been hired. I suppose If I learn how to lie, properly bullshit, and kiss some recruiter arse I may get the job on the third try.....oh I forgot, im not re-applying. I must ask, if someting is so F'ed up on your interview/medical that they aren't going to hire ya now why the email stating to apply? Why didnt the recruiters know I came through there already? If a guy isn't getting hired now, exactly what will change when you re-apply, interview, and re-do that god damn psych test?

This I have to agree with him 100%! I really don't understand how a guy who can bs his answers and make them sound like a nice 'story' is a better candidate then an honest fella who answered his questions truthfully but doesn't exaggerate too much? Maybe the guy was 'lucky' enough not to have some peculiar situations in his flying career and has nothing much to talk about. Maybe he is a down to earth guy who doesn't come out like a "Miss pageant" talking about him/her self and their best attributes, qualities and ethical standing on life? Without being asked first...Maybe....I'm just saying, studying the interview based questions so you can sound slick on the interview MAY not the best candidate you want to hire. I had two 2 interviews on the same system and got caught by surprise on the first as I really didn't "prepare" my answers....and subsequently got POF'd. Did another job interview and this time I 'studied' my answers and searched thought my log book and got the job.

Maybe that wasn't it for you...maybe it wasn't your day, maybe the interviewer had a bad day, maybe you didn't do your psych eval? Who knows, except the guy looking at your test/interview results.

Which brings me to another question. Is there a person at AC who has a way of looking at your application and can tell you what is that you are 'missing' if you haven't got a call for an interview at least? I even heard that someone once found out that he/she is on a never to be called list. Is this possible?

[767skipper]

I'd be careful generalising about flying at AC. I've been a 67 skipper for more than two years.
Last years T4 was well over 200. I'm on a 48hr layover in Copenhagen and am 47 years old.
I'm thinking that's not too bad. You might want to send in another resume.

[rudder]

Bottom line is that there are better options than AC. Doesn't mean that AC is not in the top 3 or 4 in Canada. But there are places with better starting conditions and greater job security. AC is a great deal for under-30, no dependants, no bills. For everybody else, it isn't necessarily their first choice.