Well at least I know where Canada Eh got it from. Thats the problem WJ700, its word of mouth and if its the same friends who you eluded to a few months back that hate it here I respectfully submit they were embelishing at the least. We actually have spare Fokker 100's and I don't know of any MD's that were grounded and I was litterally one of the poor saps at the airport.
I also have talked to several friends at WJ who arn't on the coolaid parade and they said they had the same shit as us, but to a lessor extent. In fact they comparted it to standard operations at Royal.
BD, generally I would agree with your comments that one happy pax = lots of good publicity with friends and relatives the same being true for an unhappy customer. The fact is these people choose SG because of price, and price brings them back. (I don't agree with this but it seems to be true)
PS BD I gave you my email address to send info on SG being mechanically unsafe..I am waiting!
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[quote="pimper"]Well at least I know where Canada Eh got it from. Thats the problem WJ700, its word of mouth and if its the same friends who you eluded to a few months back that hate it here I respectfully submit they were embelishing at the least. We actually have spare Fokker 100's and I don't know of any MD's that were grounded and I was litterally one of the poor saps at the airport.
I also have talked to several friends at WJ who arn't on the coolaid parade and they said they had the same shit as us, but to a lessor extent. In fact they comparted it to standard operations at Royal.
Actually, it was two newer F100 people, but yes the MD guys are still unhappy (wouldn't you be?). I think the only embelishment is yourself saying you didn't have problems on December 22nd. I was flying December 23rd, along with several other YYZ departures, I was only an hour late making it home with a YUL turn. Oh, and its 'Kool Aid'... teal green, looking forward to seeing more of you around the west next week. Cheers.
I also have talked to several friends at WJ who arn't on the coolaid parade and they said they had the same shit as us, but to a lessor extent. In fact they comparted it to standard operations at Royal.
Actually, it was two newer F100 people, but yes the MD guys are still unhappy (wouldn't you be?). I think the only embelishment is yourself saying you didn't have problems on December 22nd. I was flying December 23rd, along with several other YYZ departures, I was only an hour late making it home with a YUL turn. Oh, and its 'Kool Aid'... teal green, looking forward to seeing more of you around the west next week. Cheers.
Guess what my dad was delayed with WJ 7hrs going from Edmonton to Kelowna and know what who the hell gives a sh*t, all airlines have delays. Its a way of life in this world. Listening to a bunch of whiners complaining about it doesn't change anything.
Is WJ better than SG no is SG better than WJ no. Just be happy where you work. Everybody is going to have a story on how a airline screwed them or a friend over the point is who cares!
Is WJ better than SG no is SG better than WJ no. Just be happy where you work. Everybody is going to have a story on how a airline screwed them or a friend over the point is who cares!
Rectum, damn near killed 'em
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What I do does not limit the extent of "what I know", I assure you that I know a hell of a lot more than my job entails. For the record, I am not a CSA, not that there is anything wrong with that.You should stick to what you know Canada Eh..that would be a gate agent in YVR. 20 out of the 24 aircraft or 80% of our planes were in YYZ. If 80% of your airplanes were at one airport that had a freezing rain storm it would have been a mess as well.
Air Canada did have the forsight to cancel flights the night before and try to get pax out early or on later flights. They could do that because of capacity. I have lots of close friends at AC that worked the same storm and all of them had similar stories to mine. The difference is they told the pax earlier what was going on and had the open seats to get them out later or the next day.
The delays to WJ would have been the same..around 4 hrs from pushback to take-off. The difference is the delays were not compounded. Our planes fly out and back from YYZ, yours just have to take the one delay out of YYZ(for the most part) and those pax have to be fit on later flights down the line, and apparently there were lots of open seats. It would be like me comenting on a this storm hitting YYC, it would have been horrible for WJ but minimal for SG.
We had 6 mechanicals? If you didn't read it in the papers where would find out that info? Its news to me and I was there.
The reason the "storm" turned into such a bad PR nightmare was because everything went wrong for you all at once, and you didn't have the people in place to fix it. Your customer service agents (which are contracted in most bases if not all, right?) didn't keep the customers informed, your dispatchers/crew schedulers didn't keep your own crews informed, and the lack of planning by many people in your airline in all departments led to a disasterous trickle effect of delays and cancellations.
No airline is ever immune from such problems, cause Westjet certainly went through the same thing a few times during our growth. What sets the airline apart from others is how a situation is handled. Bad weather happens; cancellations happen; delays happen; bad customer service shouldn't. An airline is judged on how certain aspects are handled, and Jetsgo failed miserably during the "storm".
I ask you this: Air Canada cancelled many flights the day prior - why didn't Jetsgo? Why were both Air Canada and Westjet able to arrive/depart all day while Jetsgo wasn't? Why was crew rest such an issue at Jetsgo - poor planning or bad luck?
Being over 3 hours late, your Dad will get an appology letter with flight credit in the amount he paid for that leg of his trip, it's automatic... so yes, one company is better.DA900 wrote:Guess what my dad was delayed with WJ 7hrs going from Edmonton to Kelowna and know what who the hell gives a sh*t, all airlines have delays. Its a way of life in this world. Listening to a bunch of whiners complaining about it doesn't change anything.
Is WJ better than SG no is SG better than WJ no. Just be happy where you work. Everybody is going to have a story on how a airline screwed them or a friend over the point is who cares!
Re: jetsgo
Ground up green smiley facesajet32 wrote:WJ700 what do they put in that Koolaid ??
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I think I am going to start another airline where everyone pays for everything. For equipment, We're gonna run shittiest of russian Tupolevs.
Not only will the pilots pay for their training, but they pay for every damn hour in the airplane. The flight attendants, them too, freakin loafers and their free training and free plane rides. The way I see it, you guys are ALL getting free rides all over the country. Time to start generating revenue.
Problem is, I'll get resumes. Hell, pilots will pay for the flight attendant jobs if I say "hard work in the "hump" seat can lead to forward promotion"
Understand, I am not looking for aviators...just pilots.
Jets-Pay-As-You-Go...NO ONE IS SAFE.
Not only will the pilots pay for their training, but they pay for every damn hour in the airplane. The flight attendants, them too, freakin loafers and their free training and free plane rides. The way I see it, you guys are ALL getting free rides all over the country. Time to start generating revenue.
Problem is, I'll get resumes. Hell, pilots will pay for the flight attendant jobs if I say "hard work in the "hump" seat can lead to forward promotion"
Understand, I am not looking for aviators...just pilots.
Jets-Pay-As-You-Go...NO ONE IS SAFE.
ok.nutcraker wrote:I have been asking to myself for a while, Why Birdog?
Now i know,
The size of your brain, and the smell of your breath.
question....whats a 'nutcraker'....did you mean 'nutcracker'?
another question...gathering from my first question...I am gathering you work for JetsGo?
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corn-shoot
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So what, I can have a big bag of dignity like you? And are you then saying that Jetsgo is a Flying Job? Awww horseshit to you.
I could get a job pulling heads out of asses, be contracted by Jetsgo, and have a much more lucrative career. At least all the doors on my Honda Civic would match, it would be a real standout in the jetsgo parking lot.
I could get a job pulling heads out of asses, be contracted by Jetsgo, and have a much more lucrative career. At least all the doors on my Honda Civic would match, it would be a real standout in the jetsgo parking lot.
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Oh dear...a real zinger. I can't wait for post number 22. Any chance I can get your autograph when you get the chance?
So you had to look at 448 of my posts before you came up with that astute observation. I am glad that you can read my posts, I thought I'd have to get out the Crayolas for the Jetsgo crew.
Good hearing from you, son.
So you had to look at 448 of my posts before you came up with that astute observation. I am glad that you can read my posts, I thought I'd have to get out the Crayolas for the Jetsgo crew.
Good hearing from you, son.
