And still, CBSA agents are exempt from security screening

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[quote="complexintentions"]Here's a thought.

Why don't pilots just do their damn jobs, and let other people do theirs? :mrgreen:

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No problem doing my job. Just would like others to be allowed to do theirs ie CATSA screening EVERYONE!
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The whole reason airport security screening exists is to prevent aircraft hijackings. I have no problem with screening that serves a purpose but the pilots are already at the controls with an axe behind them if they had any ill intentions. Screening them and searching their bags serves no purpose. TC has told our company that it is done so everyone is treated equally. What Teacher is saying is if there is going to be exceptions then it only makes sense for pilots to be on that list
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av8ts wrote:The whole reason airport security screening exists is to prevent aircraft hijackings. I have no problem with screening that serves a purpose but the pilots are already at the controls with an axe behind them if they had any ill intentions. Screening them and searching their bags serves no purpose. TC has told our company that it is done so everyone is treated equally. What Teacher is saying is if there is going to be exceptions then it only makes sense for pilots to be on that list
Well, no. That's not the "whole reason" or even a main one. The chances of a hijacker getting to the controls or taking over an aircraft are extremely unlikely, greatly reduced by the procedures now more rigidly enforced post-911 with cockpit access and bulletproof doors. And who's to say a pilot is interested in harming his OWN flight? Why not smuggle something to pass to a passenger on another flight? Hence we are screened.

The difference with law enforcement personnel is that they have deemed to be less of a threat than pilots. And I agree - sorry, but I just don't equate pilots with law enforcement. It just isn't in our job description. If you don't trust the powers that be, write a letter, agitate, join them yourselves and show 'em how it's done.

But in the meantime try not to seethe with envy as they breeze past you, it just makes us all look amateurish. God knows the public's perception of pilots has already sunk a great deal, having some SkyGod throw a tantrum when asked to do something simple doesn't help.
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Totally unrelated, but why are all those links appearing in the postings, and how do you stop them.?
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Bajan Pilot wrote:Totally unrelated, but why are all those links appearing in the postings, and how do you stop them.?
The google ads? They are there so Joe does not get tired of the shenanigans here and shut the forum down.

Like CBSA they can't be stopped.
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Lol. Don't worry its been many years since I've seethed
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hahah! Good answer! See, THAT's the attitude to take. On the odd occasion I feel slightly annoyed by the process, I just remind myself that I'm actually very fortunate, I get to walk away and go fly a pretty cool machine with a huge amount of responsibility, and earn more money on the flight I'm about to operate than the poor guy/gal running the x-ray will make in a month. It makes it pretty hard to get too excited about wondering why the guys with guns don't get frisked.

Oh, and the ads can be blocked...just sayin'.
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complexintentions wrote: Oh, and the ads can be blocked...just sayin'.
Well yes.

I meant there is not a premium account where you don't get ads here, like some forums.
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CBSA employee fired, others under investigation over 'serious misconduct'


CTVNews.ca Staff
Published Thursday, August 7, 2014 5:00PM EDT
Last Updated Thursday, August 7, 2014 11:28PM EDT

A Canadian Border Services agent in southern Ontario has been fired and others are under investigation over allegations of “serious misconduct,” CTV News has learned.
Sources say the border agent was fired as a result of an investigation. The CBSA would not comment on the individual case, citing privacy concerns.
The allegations include accepting gifts and other benefits, misuse of government electronic networks, abuse of authority and “engaging in preferential treatment.”
The alleged misconduct took place at the Peace Bridge port of entry in Fort Erie, Ont..
An internal investigation is now underway.
The CBSA said Thursday its employees are held to “a very high standard” and are expected to act professionally and in accordance with CBSA policies.
The agency says it took action immediately upon learning of the allegations of misconduct. In cases such as these, individual agents can face disciplinary measures, up to and including firing, according to a CBSA statement.
With files from CTV's Mercedes Stephenson


Read more: http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/cbsa-emplo ... z39ncnSyZq

http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/cbsa-emplo ... -1.1950329
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guyfullofrage wrote:
2namelt wrote:If flight crew have to be screened, everybody should have to be screened. There are others not on the screening order that seem to be exempt as well. Who has a more vested interest in the safety of the flight than the pilots?

Sounds good... Clearly pilots have the most vested interest.. Get out there ....Work the X-ray .... Dig through some dirty laundry......then out to the cockpit........

Perhaps we can get that American pilot that brought his gun with him to Canada after obviously bypassing screening to do some instructing.....
He didn't "Bypass" anything. He used KCM which is a perfectly legal and normal thing for crew members here in the USA whereby crew members are only screened at random.

Now whether or not he knew the gun was in his flight bag is something I won't comment on.

But maybe you should do some research before you run your mouth.
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Jack In The Box wrote:
guyfullofrage wrote:
2namelt wrote:If flight crew have to be screened, everybody should have to be screened. There are others not on the screening order that seem to be exempt as well. Who has a more vested interest in the safety of the flight than the pilots?

Sounds good... Clearly pilots have the most vested interest.. Get out there ....Work the X-ray .... Dig through some dirty laundry......then out to the cockpit........

Perhaps we can get that American pilot that brought his gun with him to Canada after obviously bypassing screening to do some instructing.....
He didn't "Bypass" anything. He used KCM which is a perfectly legal and normal thing for crew members here in the USA whereby crew members are only screened at random.

Now whether or not he knew the gun was in his flight bag is something I won't comment on.

But maybe you should do some research before you run your mouth.



Got it...... He had his id checked........ Thanks for clearing that up...... Wow.

You clearly missed the point before running your mouth......
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