Canjet

captain thicknjuicy · Post by **captain thicknjuicy** » Wed Jan 24, 2007 8:19 am

Anyone get the nod for WestJet lately?

invertedattitude · Post by **invertedattitude** » Wed Jan 24, 2007 9:24 pm

uwillpay wrote:heheh for sure they are getting down that seniority list in call-backs...for a company that said they would be rehiring about 40 pilots, why are they getting down to more than double that?! Why the cattle-call for FA's?

I wonder.

Last one out turn off the lights. Again.

Possibly because of all the extra Transat/Sunquest charters that start Feb 1 I would imagine?

uwillpay · Post by **uwillpay** » Thu Jan 25, 2007 8:23 am

Um, yeah. ok. So they're sending out bulk emails the third week of January to help crew a/c in February?

What are the actual fleet and crew numbers like now?

-no. of a/c currently flying, and no. proposed
-no. of crew presently recalled, sorry, rehired

, and the number they're looking for.

And what's the scoop with the reserve policies? Heard they were having some problems contacting guys, and guys calling in sick after being called for reserve lol...welcome to what happens when you lose that ever-intangible GOODWILL Kenny!

flyin' fish · Post by **flyin' fish** » Thu Jan 25, 2007 8:46 am

6 aircraft flying (including 1 spare) for a total of 45 pilots inlcuding management, but that number keeps changing. Looks like more are leaving for AC or WestJet and so far they're at #70 on the senority list.
So far it's been pretty quite and nothing new, but February should be interesting when it becomes more clear what's going to happen in the summer/fall. If this company has to lay people off this summer because of lack of flying, that'll put the final nail in the CanJet coffin.
In the meantime, stay tuned.
Airbus, maybe?

Stick-Shaker · Post by **Stick-Shaker** » Thu Jan 25, 2007 9:31 am

Airbus? JG, your C.O.O, or (what ever her name is now) wouldn't know what an airbus looked like. I don't think she knew what an ALPA was either. She probably thought it was some sort of exotic animal hunted for its luxurious pelt.

"daddy whats an ALPA, can I have one?

Luscombe · Post by **Luscombe** » Thu Jan 25, 2007 1:26 pm

Funny, cuz it's true.

EastCoaster · Post by **EastCoaster** » Thu Jan 25, 2007 2:18 pm

Enough is Enough. Some of you have shown some class while others are plain and simple idiots. Don't any of you have any pride. Everyone stands behind some screenname acting all big and tough. I know that the way that IMP went about the whole shutdown was absolute bullsh!t but nobody can change the past. If CanJet makes a viable business again, it will provide some decent jobs in the industry for a bunch of great people. Remember those days in the north loading your own plane with pop and chips? Everyone did that. I'm just getting tired of the crap on here. Start a new thread. Some of us, wait... Let me rephrase. Most of us put our blood sweat and tears into making CanJet what it was. Not just pilots either. If you don't want to ride the C6 train anymore, I completely understand your decision, but move on! Get over it! Don't badmouth those that are still trying to eek out a few more hours on the 37 or the ones who really do want to work from and live in Atlantic Canada. Don't crush what little pride they have left. Don't discount people who put in their best efforts to try to make it work. Don't bullsh!t yourself into believing that a COO of an airline doesn't know what an Airbus is. Get over yourself. If you need to, move on. I did. But I didn't badmouth the place when I left. Show some true colours. I knew most every pilot on the line and this is not becoming of anyone... Come on guys. Enough is enough. If you don't work at CanJet and don't have anything constructive to add... move on.

EC

rotate · Post by **rotate** » Thu Jan 25, 2007 2:20 pm

I wouldnt give her that much credit...she'd have to get someone to read the letters to her!!!

LostinRotation · Post by **LostinRotation** » Thu Jan 25, 2007 2:30 pm

Well I haven't wirked at CanJet but I have been following it's progression through the years. I have spoken to a few of the crew in the past and everyone was top notch. I wish you guys all the best whether you decide to go back or move on. Best of luck.

-=0=LiR=0=-

Stick-Shaker · Post by **Stick-Shaker** » Thu Jan 25, 2007 3:48 pm

There was little respect paid to anyone. Apparently at times the COO was more interested in shopping at Costco during business hours than running an airline. I know Clive isn't in Costco on a Wednesday at 2pm. Either they are serious or they are wasting everyone’s time. I hope they do make a good run at the charter business, just treat the people who make it successful with more dignity and respect!!!

But yes there are still a lot of good people there...this is why I bother with this.

flyin' fish · Post by **flyin' fish** » Thu Jan 25, 2007 7:46 pm

so where's the butcher these days??

Troubleshot · Post by **Troubleshot** » Thu Jan 25, 2007 8:21 pm

With the summer flying sched. coming up around the corner CanJet I'm sure with be raped of the rest of it's good employees by AC , WestJet and Jazz.
It is really sad to me to see this great little airline slowly dismantled and the employees left feeling like the rug has been pulled out from under their feet.

Good luck to you all...you deserve better.

rickenbacker · Post by **rickenbacker** » Fri Jan 26, 2007 4:50 am

What is sad is the fact that once again management has a problem and they're turning a blind eye pretending nothings wrong. 5 pilots quite in one week. More to go in Feb and March. No responce from anyone except a sigh and to shove their heads further....................in the sand.
Now you thought I was going to say something else!!!

737daytripper · Post by **737daytripper** » Fri Jan 26, 2007 7:29 am

I don't think that they are turning a blind eye, they (mgmt) know that people are leaving and there is very little or nothing that they can do to stop people from going. Most people have made up there mind to stay or go and for those that want to go it's only a matter of time.

For those that want to stay hopefully it works out and not too many leave and the company can stabilize and then hire people with a fresh view of Canjet and its future. I'm not holding my breath on this.

JetJock · Post by **JetJock** » Fri Jan 26, 2007 7:54 am

If things are that bad there, why don't you stop flogging it and move on? Publicly putting people down not only makes your organization look bad, but also this profession and especially yourselves. You have to earn respect to get it, so try that- because at this point some of you are only embarrassing yourselves.

captain thicknjuicy · Fri Jan 26, 2007 10:16 am

management

rotate · Post by **rotate** » Fri Jan 26, 2007 3:46 pm

Eastcoaster,
Respect is a two way street. And you're absolutly correct, it has to be earned. As you can tell it has yet to be earned from the pilots.

You also don't need to tell everyone to get over it and move on. Roughly 56 of them have done so already. 5 moved on and got over it just this week, and more to follow. People are moving on and getting over it so quick that it will actually endanger the jobs of the ones that want to stay!!!

Buckshot · Post by **Buckshot** » Fri Jan 26, 2007 5:05 pm

All you skeptics should wait and see what is discussed at the meeting next Tuesday. Alot of you that are constantly making negative posts may be a little upset because it will be good news for CanJet.

For some of you this may be hurtful, but its beginning to look like things are turning around for the better...
I am happy for all working there and for those that are going to be working there in the near future.

All the skeptics should get a life.

Kandoo · Post by **Kandoo** » Fri Jan 26, 2007 5:22 pm

Buckshot
You would have to be management to have inside information on what went on in Montreal this week. I hope it is good news for everyone staying at Canjet! I would like nothing better than my friends there to have a little security in their jobs. Don't think that people in the process of leaving will change their minds. It will, unfortunately, not change the attitudes of management towards the employees and that may be a fatal flaw in your plans (going forward).

flyin' fish · Post by **flyin' fish** » Fri Jan 26, 2007 5:39 pm

No matter what the news is, are things going to change? If CanJet secures itself as a long term operation, eventually just having a job is going to grow old for alot of people that stay. Benefits, pay, schedule, the same stuff we've all been screaming for is what will keep most of the crews there for the long run. That's where corporate has to smartin' up and treat the employees with a little respect. Then respect towards management will follow.
Respect is something you EARN.

rotate · Post by **rotate** » Fri Jan 26, 2007 8:18 pm

Buckshot,
We would all welcome good news at canjet. If we leave or if we stay we all have friends there and wish them all the best. BUT we've all heard good news from them before, we've all seen things go fairly smooth then have the rug once again pulled out from under us. That's the problem. The track record sucks. Not only is respect an issue but also trust. There's a fairly large feeling that the employees are really just gun fodder.
After we're smacked around and given a good solid beating we all like to be cuddled, told we're loved and that it'll never happen again. But ya know it usually does and sooner or later we wake up and see the pattern and run to the halfway house.

Stick-Shaker · Post by **Stick-Shaker** » Sat Jan 27, 2007 5:56 am

I do have respect for the people that worked there and put up with the crap. But as its been mentioned, its a 2-way street. Stop defending an employer that had no respect. Especially for the 1 guy that put his heart and soul, volunteered the majority of his free time and sacrificed his personal life for the betterment of CanJet as a whole. JK has taken it on the nose. He put up with the embarrassment, frustration, and humiliation that CJ management illegally subjected him to when they refused to hire him back because he was the union ring leader. Where was the RESPECT that he deserved. Shove your respect!

invertedattitude · Post by **invertedattitude** » Sat Jan 27, 2007 11:40 am

So this meeting on Tuesday, is this a normal scheduled meeting or is it something bigger than that?

I for one miss seeing CanJet.

eastdude · Post by **eastdude** » Sat Jan 27, 2007 12:09 pm

invertedattitude wrote:So this meeting on Tuesday, is this a normal scheduled meeting or is it something bigger than that?

I for one miss seeing CanJet.

lets see, the rumor mill says it could be just the announcement of the summer reduced domestic/charter sked, or when he is gonna shut er down for good, or Airbus's joining the fleet, although they talked about that for years s how knows.

Buckshot · Post by **Buckshot** » Sat Jan 27, 2007 2:20 pm

Sorry Kandoo. I was not aware of any information that others were not provided.
I thought it was great to hear some good news for a change and thought it would be good to share...
I was told by a good source from within the company's ranks that a letter was sent via e-mail from COO to all employees with E-mail access on Friday afternoon.
From what was shown to me this letter was rather positive and detailed a meeting with the pilots and F/A group to discuss the Summer and next Winter flying opportunities further. This was to occur on next Tuesday afternoon. Not sure of any meetings scheduled with the rest of the employees. I am sure if you ask around you might be able to find a copy. Unfortunately I was not given a copy, but only an opportunity to read it.