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[qwe221sd]

They were hired before Covid when there was a shortage. If they're the ones I'm thinking of, I heard they didn't make the grade and were let go during training.

Doesn't sound like the same people. One I know just returned to the line after the "layoffs" and is requalified now. The other two I haven't talked to in ages but I am pretty sure they are all still employed.

It's not really that hard to be a 737 FO... let's be honest.

Sooooo. actually not hired in the last year. The last FO's that were hired (my source) all did groundschool a year ago March then were furloughed. Three didn't finish training after being recalled this spring. All hiring since then has been DEC positions. Your claim that being a 737 FO isn't hard depends purely on your attitude. Put in the work? Yes...try to mail it in? Not a hope.

So...the less experienced pilots were "laid off" or just "furlough"? Flair let them go through training failed?

[GRK2]

Same thing. Laid off=furlough. Being furloughed is purely done on a seniority basis. It's done from the bottom up and recalls are done in seniority. (Are you sure you're a pilot?) Flair pilots are unionised so to get terminated during training is a serious deal. Plenty of remedial training given but at some point a decision has to be made. I'm 100% sure other carriers have the same deal.

[qwe221sd]

Same thing. Laid off=furlough. Being furloughed is purely done on a seniority basis. It's done from the bottom up and recalls are done in seniority. (Are you sure you're a pilot?) Flair pilots are unionised so to get terminated during training is a serious deal. Plenty of remedial training given but at some point a decision has to be made. I'm 100% sure other carriers have the same deal.

Thanks for explanation.
Yes, I'm not a pilot , I am planing to do flight training and become a pilot in canada.
What I said is because I am from asia, the management there usually failed pilots during training or sim check who they dislike or want to let go for some reason.
I think it's not going to happen in Canada especially unionised company.
Anyway , I thought they failed by flair was because their capability not policy.

[acpaleaks]

Same thing. Laid off=furlough. Being furloughed is purely done on a seniority basis. It's done from the bottom up and recalls are done in seniority. (Are you sure you're a pilot?) Flair pilots are unionised so to get terminated during training is a serious deal. Plenty of remedial training given but at some point a decision has to be made. I'm 100% sure other carriers have the same deal.

Thanks for explanation.
Yes, I'm not a pilot , I am planing to do flight training and become a pilot in canada.
What I said is because I am from asia, the management there usually failed pilots during training or sim check who they dislike or want to let go for some reason.
I think it's not going to happen in Canada especially unionised company.
Anyway , I thought they failed by flair was because their capability not policy.

I think GRK2 is full of shit. It's next to impossible to get released from a 705 airline in Canada unless you are like bottom of the barrel. And even then, the support there is to get through training is huge. And he says MULTIPLE people were released?

Unlikely.

[GRK2]

Same thing. Laid off=furlough. Being furloughed is purely done on a seniority basis. It's done from the bottom up and recalls are done in seniority. (Are you sure you're a pilot?) Flair pilots are unionised so to get terminated during training is a serious deal. Plenty of remedial training given but at some point a decision has to be made. I'm 100% sure other carriers have the same deal.

Thanks for explanation.
Yes, I'm not a pilot , I am planing to do flight training and become a pilot in canada.
What I said is because I am from asia, the management there usually failed pilots during training or sim check who they dislike or want to let go for some reason.
I think it's not going to happen in Canada especially unionised company.
Anyway , I thought they failed by flair was because their capability not policy.

I think GRK2 is full of shit. It's next to impossible to get released from a 705 airline in Canada unless you are like bottom of the barrel. And even then, the support there is to get through training is huge. And he says MULTIPLE people were released?

Unlikely.

You're very uninformed I have to say.

[acpaleaks]

Thanks for explanation.
Yes, I'm not a pilot , I am planing to do flight training and become a pilot in canada.
What I said is because I am from asia, the management there usually failed pilots during training or sim check who they dislike or want to let go for some reason.
I think it's not going to happen in Canada especially unionised company.
Anyway , I thought they failed by flair was because their capability not policy.

I think GRK2 is full of shit. It's next to impossible to get released from a 705 airline in Canada unless you are like bottom of the barrel. And even then, the support there is to get through training is huge. And he says MULTIPLE people were released?

Unlikely.

You're very uninformed I have to say.

Well if I am that uninformed, then it sounds like Flair is a pretty shit place to work. Which doesn't surprise me at all.

Based on some of the posters here who work there, I guess it is where bottom barrel pilots go to have a chance after being rejected everywhere else. Or lower time pilots doing whatever they can to get a job, then leave to WJ or AC. I won't fault them.

[GRK2]

I think GRK2 is full of shit. It's next to impossible to get released from a 705 airline in Canada unless you are like bottom of the barrel. And even then, the support there is to get through training is huge. And he says MULTIPLE people were released?

Unlikely.

You're very uninformed I have to say.

Well if I am that uninformed, then it sounds like Flair is a pretty shit place to work. Which doesn't surprise me at all.

Based on some of the posters here who work there, I guess it is where bottom barrel pilots go to have a chance after being rejected everywhere else.

Oh dear, I've ruffled your feathers...Well...sorry not sorry. Unless you have intimate personal knowledge of who posts and works there, or you actually work there yourself, anything you have to say is just empty and stinks like guesswork. I won't use the standard comeback of "What? Didn't get hired?" as a witty comeback because it's old and tired just like your sleepy old "shitty place to work" quip. So tell me, do you know anyone personally at Flair? Do you have access to the latest hire list of pilots? (It's in the media if you want to open your eyes and look for it). Did you take a look at the requirements to get an interview? No? Thought so. I'd say good try but it wasn't. More like a schoolboy mistake.