Kenn Borek Scooping Up All DHC-6 Pilots

[Ogee]

Well, my apologies if I overstated it a bit. I do have to say JC's original post was hilarious, but what got my dander up was the strong possibility it was accurate.

Ah well, too much coffee maybe.

[johnholmes]

I just tell em they're pussies.

Yup, you sound like the rest of the hero's that work there lostinthebattle......

[just curious]

Ogee, if you search in my posts, you will discover that I haven't always painted my company as the one true way. As Mr Holmes has periodically pointed out, there is room for improvement.

I resurrected this thread for the simple reason that we are short captains, and until we are done line indocing the new captains, and upgrading the FOs that we can ... it is busy. I would like more time off, and until we hire more, that won't happen.

As for your colourful post:

Just curious,

Does Kenn Borek Air know you are claiming to represent the company and are painting it up as an arrogant shithole of a place in which people good enough to express an interest in working there are treated the way you say they are.

As for that other guy who says "I've always wanted to work at Kenn Borek", I can only ask why. Can you not set your sites higher than your shoelaces. I've never wanted to work there and I wasn't even aware of the crap Just Curious just treated us to above.

A) Yes they have a very good idea who I am
B) I wasn't aware that I painted a picture as an arrogant sh*thole. We have a mindboggling amount of paper resumes of which an amazing number do not meet our contract requirements. I have taken time over the years to look at critique and polish a great many people's resumes, but still, we get people with private licences, and instrument ratings from non ICAO countries applying. Electronic resumes don't matter much in this regard, but the dead tree ones do. If prioritizing is arrogance, colour me guilty.
C) I am one of the more postive guys around. I like my job, aircraft and co-workers. In what, 34 years + or -, I've flown with 2 drivers who irked me, and one airplane that always seemed to have snags. In retrospect, that's not too bad. I'd like more people around like the ones I've had the pleasure of flying with.
D) If this is the post that raised your blood pressure, I am astonished at your naiveté:

That having been said, we are always turning over pilots. A dozen captains or more over the last year have gone to the blue and teal team. Lots of FOs have been moved up. Occaisionally one of the FOs waiting for an upgrade will shift over to CMA.

What this means is that the resumes get sorted into stacks.
1. People with time on either a turbine Beech or Twin Otter, hopefully PPCed, but perhaps just having spent a lot of time loading fuelling and washing one as well. It is helpful that they have a float rating as 17 of our machines are on floats.
2. People with no Beech or Otter time, but who have 500 hours (for the Fire, GNWT/GNU, and Medevac contracts)
3. People without 500 hours, but who seem to display the atttributes we want and are recommended from within.
4. People who just grabbed the April issue of Wings and shotgunned a resume to every company in the known world.
5. The particularly inept ie people who cannot spell, type, or add, but who have attached a picture (themselves in front of either a C172 or the Concorde)to their 12 page hand-written/printed essay.


We start with stack one. Each stack is about 4 inches high. The fifth stack ones are often framed. Some are so amusingly bad that we've actually considered flying them in for an interview. Not for hiring. For entertainment.

Clearly it would be better for one's resume to be in one of the first three stacks. To achieve the move from stacks four and five, one need look no further than the dozen threads in this and most other forums for the faux pas to be avoided.
Learn to spell.
Get someone else to check it who doesn't love you.
Don't give us pictures or cloud paper.
Get the Chief Pilot's name right.
Don't write us from Toronto and tell us you aren't willing to relocate.
Don't tell us you can't wait to get on with us so that you can go to Jetsgo in another year 'cause we fly lots.
Understand that the motto Anywhere Anytime World-wide means the employee, not the customer in a lot of cases.
Our job (potentially your job), involves: Fuelling out of drums, loading, flight-planning (often around the world), Navigation (involving ADF, VOR, IFR GPS, map and Astro Navigation).
Several of the pilots I am flying with currently have been to: Burma, the Maldives, the Antarctic the Eastern Arctic Greenland and Northern Quebec. In the last year. A passport, packed bag, no criminal record, and some flexibility are necessary things.

Would you rather I lied? We, like any other organization, want what we want. And generally get that too. I was hoping to get the attention of those few who might be interested. If that's not you, cool.
Just Curious

[Ogee]

Righty O then. Good luck.

[ilovelamp]

Hey Just Curious, Im just curious as to what you guys do when your ferrying aircraft for hrs on end and you really have to go, not # 1 thats an easy one to figure out but # 2. I know you guys ferry aircraft through them south american countries, with all them spicy foods down there, not to mention the stomach bugs you can get....I ve seen the twin otters with ferry tanks in em, not a whole lot of room in em after those are installed.

Also Can a person deny the mali base if they so do choose?
Thanks
ilovelamp

[SQ]

whats up with this Mali base , haven't KBAL left the place ?

[just curious]

SQ,
Mali in Africa was 15 years ago. Mali, in the Maldives is a base for about 90 pilots.

[SQ]

MalI = malE

I knew I was catching things wrongly

[dune]

Hey Just Curious, Im just curious as to what you guys do when your ferrying aircraft for hrs on end and you really have to go, not # 1 thats an easy one to figure out but # 2. I know you guys ferry aircraft through them south american countries, with all them spicy foods down there, not to mention the stomach bugs you can get....I ve seen the twin otters with ferry tanks in em, not a whole lot of room in em after those are installed.

Also Can a person deny the mali base if they so do choose?
Thanks
ilovelamp

Puke bags have great plastic bags, with a twist tie, inside them.. If you don't have that, well, a bucket with a shopping bag.. I haven't done the Male or Antarctica ferry, but I've heard some crappy stories :O~

[Zy]

I ferried down to the Antarctic this winter. We always had a 5 gallon pale in the back with a few garbage bags for "just in casers". Fortunately, it was never used.

[Cat Driver]

A five gallon pail with some engine oil will keep the aroma from floating around inside the airplane.....oil floats on top of water and forms a good barrier.

[CAP12000]

Male....VRMM. Not Mali. We take a bucket which makes things easier for the female F/O's, and the liner from the sick bags works well too.....Longest leg was 11.4 hours from VRMM (Male) to OOMS (Muscat, Oman) Pushing a headwind. But depends which way you are going, East or West. Longest day.....18.7 hours flight time from LIBR (Brindisi, Italy) refuel in HELX (Luxor, Egypt) and on to OOMS. Usually 5 days but the last three trips have taken me 6 days. Weather is always an issue ie no deice....Plastic windshields, no props or boots, so higher can be better. FL 190 to keep out of the ice, or at the other end of the spectrum I have also filed 3000 across the North Atlantic in December from BIKF (Keflavik, Iceland) to STN (Stornaway, Scotland) to keep out of the ice. Keep in mind that at ferry weights (17500 lbs) the climb out is always interesting, through the Middle east especially due to the +40 degree temperatures.

['effin hippie]

You know that PBY is gone now hey.

Last flight up there in April, saw some dudes with a tractor had it pulled as far as the south shore of Sitigi. There was a pretty decent trail the rest of the way to the road.

Anyone know who?

ef

[SQ]

FL190 , how do you make it? do you have oxigen on board ?
love those ferry, nobody bothers you.

[notaxrus]

[quote]Oh, and the NWT has full health care coverage, so you can go back to your earlier ways. The original nurses are still around, so maybe you could come visit your kids. [/quote]


JC, you said the nurses are still the same so I gotta ask; In 1981-2 Freddie Carmichael and I went out with the 2 public health nurses in Inuvik. Joan and Mikkie. Are either of them still there and is the Mad-Trapper still the place to be when hiding from Steve or the Base Manager.

And since I'm here asking questions, if a guy was interested to fly once again for Borek, in the Maldives for instance, would that be possible if he hadn't lived or worked in Canada for 25 years or so?? You see I did apply for this job but got no reply. ?? So due to being ignored, I am forced to go fly a 767 out of Dubai (My A/C of choice, the 747 Classic, is becoming a dinosaur with fuel prices) but was actually trying to do something a little different like fly a DHC 6 on floats (yes I did that before).

Well anyway I'm just curious. Thats all.

[just curious]

In 1981-2 Freddie Carmichael and I went out with the 2 public health nurses in Inuvik. Joan and Mikkie. Are either of them still there and is the Mad-Trapper still the place to be when hiding from Steve or the Base Manager.

And since I'm here asking questions, if a guy was interested to fly once again for Borek, in the Maldives for instance, would that be possible if he hadn't lived or worked in Canada for 25 years or so??

• Joan and Mikkie. Are either of them still there?
  Freddie is married to Miki, Joan Retired to BC
• Are either of them still there and is the Mad-Trapper still the place to be when hiding from Steve or the Base Manager.
  Once you're of duty these days, you're off. If you're on medevac call, it's for 12 hours, and if you're off to the Trapper, you're fired. The Trapper by the way is 180 degrees from the dress code and reservations era. More along the lines of North Winnipeg establishments with signs that say "No Vests, No Crests, No Colours, No Guns"
• if a guy was interested to fly once again for Borek, in the Maldives for instance, would that be possible if he hadn't lived or worked in Canada for 25 years or so??
  Probably better that the olden day guys hid out for a quarter century. Anyway, all is forgiven, c'mon home!

[notaxrus]

Whoa JC.
Fred and Miki married.......
Joan retired.....Shit...We had some serious fun back then.
And I never expected anyone to remember them, much less me.
I've actually been thinking of how I might return to Canada. My eleven year old just walked down the street and bought me some cold San Miguel beer. Can't do that sort of thing in Canada anymore I hear. I need it while studying for the sim you see.
I'm pretty much commited to this gig in Dubai-Afghanistan for the next few months at the least. I need some money for this Canada move and this is a good paying contract.
So how does a guy come back to work at Borek?? Do you have to go to Canada to do a PC??
Frank Haley did my last one in Resolute. He probably retired I bet.!!
I think I'll embarrass myself if I say anymore.

Thanks for the info about Fred and the girls, JC

Tell him hello if you see him.

[Rowdy]

Hey ef, How ya likin the van man?

Seems fitting... a hippie and a van

They should put me on the otter!

[ettw]

Hey ef, How ya likin the van man?

Seems fitting... a hippie and a van

They should put me on the otter!

I don't think so Rowdy, from what I hear, you're gonna make a hell of a King Air Captain someday!!!

Cheers,

ETTW

PS...see ya on the 29th or so....

[CAP12000]

Beech Fags!!

[2R]

Hey not everyone who flies a hog is a breeder http://www.peterpilot.com

[Rudy]

Has Borek increased salaries to retain some of their more experienced guys like the rest of the smart 704's?

[just curious]

Yep.
I'd still like more, but like everyone else, the company has been pretty accomodating.