Aviation as viewed by non pilot geeks

hazatude · Post by **hazatude** » Thu Dec 22, 2005 3:25 pm

11) 12 O'Clock High with Gregory Peck

Boss Hawg · Post by **Boss Hawg** » Thu Dec 22, 2005 4:39 pm

Was watching a terrible movie once where a non pilot bad guy needed to get away, so he steals a Beaver. First he manages to start it, then does a perfect single float takeoff. Then he and his passenger are cruising along, not wearing headsets, but having a nice quiet converstation. It must have been one of those magic beavers that doesnt make any noise.

Older Returning Pilot · Thu Dec 22, 2005 4:47 pm

I see a movie quite a few years ago, it was about the RCAF at startup it had actors like Edward G. Robinson and a whole slew of others I wish I could remember all of them and also had Billy Bishop in it. It was filmed at Downsview and I would really enjoy seeing it again. If any of you can help me with this it would be really appreciated.

P.S. It had some excellent flying scenes in it as all of the actual pilots were Bush Pilots.

. . · Post by **. .** » Thu Dec 22, 2005 5:31 pm

To those debating whether or not it's possible to hand prop a navajo: There was the very same debate about 8 months ago. Many thought it was impossible for a handful of very vaild sounding reasons. A bunch of bored guys, and one very ballsy or very stupid AME tried it out. It was sucessfully hand propped a few times in a row. Hopefully that puts the question to bed.

in hindsight i wish i had my camera to take a video of it. ah well.

flyinhigh · Post by **flyinhigh** » Thu Dec 22, 2005 7:37 pm

Ah, the movie topic is up from starting almost 2 years ago. WOW.

I'd have to say that my favorite new one that came out was Flightplan. LOL. this movie suck. has anyone here ever saw a A474. I really like how a bomb goes off in the end of the movie and all it does is collapse the nose gear.

Other than that, hot shots rules.

Scuba_Steve · Post by **Scuba_Steve** » Thu Dec 22, 2005 8:21 pm

Ok I can't believe no one mentioned this cinimatic abortion, and I cannot recall the name, it was direct entry to TV (go figure) I caught it half way through and it was like a bad train wreck....so bad it flipped right back into good.

Basically a 3 man crew on a 777 (the side deat guy was played by the guy who played Q on star trek) have a elevator stuck in the up position so they keep on climbing. Above fl330 or whatever. SO they get an apache gunship ( who happens to be flying around at FL330 Fully armed over the continental US) to come and shoot holes in the elevators (but the captain asks him to miss the trim tabs as he may need those) so that gets the nose down a bit more, THEN they come up with the stunning idea of getting a air tanker to come over with a hose and pump water in to a avionics area right under the cockpit so the weight lowers the nose then when they want to land they'll drop the gear (and the water with it) the nose will rise and BAM they land....

So the tanker comes flying over, they open a hatch and grab this hose and fill the 'avionics bay' up with water, the nose goes down, all the passengers seem to die from lack of O2. THen they get below 10k ft and they all spring back to life THEn the captain lands and realizes he is in love with his F/O (played by some nice looking older babe) Happy ending ensues and I lost my lunch...Oh I almost forgot, the efis seemed to work fine after the 'avionics bay' was filled with water...

WORST
MOVIE
EVER

Another awefull one? the new Flight of the Pheonix....seriously 2 hours of my life I will never get back...

Cheers

. . · Post by **. .** » Thu Dec 22, 2005 8:53 pm

scuba_steve: You're trying to tell me that laser ring gyros wouldn't respond well to be submersed in water? I'm sure they would have reasearched that before filming the movie.

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sidestick stirrer · Post by **sidestick stirrer** » Thu Dec 22, 2005 10:36 pm

Older Returning Pilot:
I think the movie you descibe is called "Captain of the Clouds" starring James Cagney. It was filmed at Uplands, which was the military base outside of Ottawa, IIRC.
All of the military aircraft and personnel-save for a small group of professional actors-were the real thing.
Even the General Officer officiating at the graduation ceremony at the end of the movie( when Cagney dives on the parade) was the real guy.

just clearing the trees · Fri Dec 23, 2005 12:02 am

I don't know if anyone has mentioned these (I'm not sifting through 3 damn pages to find out) but I like Bat 21 when Danny Glover is flying the C-337 (if I remember correctly) pulling 90 degrees angle of bank, firing rockets and shit with one hand all the while sipping his morning coffee in the other hand. Love it.
Then there's Trapped, which is worth seeing just for Charlize Theron alone..........................................lost my train of thought. Sorry, got thinking about Charlize, who for the purposes of this discussion we can refer to as one of the most beautiful women in the world. Anyways, buddy is flying an amphib 180 or 185 and has to make multiple life or death cell phone calls without the other person realizing he's in an airplane instead of where he's supposed to be. So, he cuts the engine for silence purposes. Of course when he does this, he does what we all would do and shoves the nose straight down and watches the altitude peel off the meter. Needless to say, he manages to restart and pull out of each successive 2000+ fpm dive without any problems. Not a bad flick though, worth seeing. Did I mention Charlize (one of the most beautiful women in the world) Theron is in it?

Hotel Tango · Post by **Hotel Tango** » Fri Dec 23, 2005 12:09 am

FOD wrote:Okay, how come no one's mentioned Air America. Gotta love putting that old porter through its paces.
And breaking away from movies. An old disney cartoon is what got me into flying, any one remember Tailspin??? Or how about that old black and white air combat show the Black Sheep Squadron.

Tailspin was a funny cartoon. However I have a question to throw out there. What is a "tailspin?!" Everytime a plane crashes in a movie or an eyewitness appears on the news, there is always the quote "the airplane then entered a tailspin and crashed."

Of course on the news interviews always go by this script "It sounded like it was having engine trouble and there was a large bang and it entered a tailspin." WTF? Usually it's not engine related but that's always the first thing you hear. Not sure they even know what a rough running piston or turbine engine would sound like.

duplicate2 · Post by **duplicate2** » Fri Dec 23, 2005 1:53 am

Scuba_Steve wrote:Basically a 3 man crew on a 777 (the side deat guy was played by the guy who played Q on star trek) have a elevator stuck in the up position so they keep on climbing. Above fl330 or whatever. SO they get an apache gunship ( who happens to be flying around at FL330 Fully armed over the continental US) to come and shoot holes in the elevators (but the captain asks him to miss the trim tabs as he may need those) so that gets the nose down a bit more, THEN they come up with the stunning idea of getting a air tanker to come over with a hose and pump water in to a avionics area right under the cockpit so the weight lowers the nose then when they want to land they'll drop the gear (and the water with it) the nose will rise and BAM they land....

So the tanker comes flying over, they open a hatch and grab this hose and fill the 'avionics bay' up with water, the nose goes down, all the passengers seem to die from lack of O2. THen they get below 10k ft and they all spring back to life THEn the captain lands and realizes he is in love with his F/O (played by some nice looking older babe) Happy ending ensues and I lost my lunch...Oh I almost forgot, the efis seemed to work fine after the 'avionics bay' was filled with water...

WORST
MOVIE
EVER

http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0127557/

WOW! This sounds so brutal I wish I had seen it! I love cutting up movies and TV shows while I'm watching. Girlfriend does not agree. She won't watch CSI with me.

flyindude · Post by **flyindude** » Fri Dec 23, 2005 7:58 am

Of course, let's not forget, whenever they show a plane take-off, it's a 737, flying in and around thunderstorms, being rocked, it's a 707 and then it magically turns into an L-1011 for the landing!

Luscombe · Post by **Luscombe** » Fri Dec 23, 2005 8:32 am

Another one is with Arnie and Rae Dawn Chong (I forget the title of this one). The real star is the Grumman Goose. It had some great lines in it like "we have to get type 8 fuel because it's an amphibian airplane"

just another pilot · Post by **just another pilot** » Fri Dec 23, 2005 9:01 am

Ok. Sorry if someone else has mentioned these:
Pearl Harbour. "Get your speed up before you leave the dirt" - Good advice.
Temple of Doom. In the descent with the altimeter winding down - so is the pressure setting.
Any f$%^&*@! police chase on the runway - advance the phuking throttles!! On "CHiPS" Paunch puts his baton in the flight controls - I would have run over him...
I wont get intp Firefox, Blue Thunder or Airwolf.

BTD · Post by **BTD** » Fri Dec 23, 2005 10:47 am

The one Oldtimer was talking about wayyy back in the thread was "Passenger 57" it was actually an L1011 and suprise suprise they kept the same aircraft throughout the entire movie.

I love it when The Hijacker goes into the cockpit

Hijacker- Who is in Charge?

Captain- I am

Hijacker shoots the captain in the head killing him instantly

Hijacker- Once again, who is in charge?

F/O- You are.

Classic conversation. At least the F/O in the movie was able to land the aircraft by himself with the F/Es help without having to contact ATC to get a pilot to talk him through it. Man I hate when they make it out like this is the F/Os first hr ever flying. Go Wesley Snipes.

Aviation as viewed by non pilot geeks

RCAF????