Aircraft QoL

[bcflyer]

That’s the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard. Clearly you are an airbus pilot and don’t know what you’re talking about. Enough said.

Vanguard what are you so angry about?? So many of your posts you sit there and sling mud at people. Seriously what is so wrong in your life that you hide behind an internet username and unload your misery. It's sad, for you.

I only sling mud at people who deserve it and I call people out who don’t know what they’re talking about clearly.

Actually the other poster was bang on in their assessment. I’ve flown both and that’s exactly what happens. The Airbus tells you what’s wrong, the 737 gives you a master caution and you go hunting for what’s wrong.

[Hysteria]

Latest class
Yz 220- 7
UL 737- 4
YZ 320- 1
YZ 319- 4
YZ/UL 330FO- 2
UL 330RP- 3
YZ/UL 87RP- 5
YZ 87FO- 5
YZ/UL 77RP- 3
YZ 67- 1

787 FO out of ground school?

Does 787 FO in this scenario get scooped up first?

[daedalusx]

Latest class
Yz 220- 7
UL 737- 4
YZ 320- 1
YZ 319- 4
YZ/UL 330FO- 2
UL 330RP- 3
YZ/UL 87RP- 5
YZ 87FO- 5
YZ/UL 77RP- 3
YZ 67- 1

787 FO out of ground school?

Does 787 FO in this scenario get scooped up first?

787 FO is arguably the worse position out of GS.
Shit seniority
Shit schedule
Pays the same as an RP position which has better seniority/schedule.
The insufferable shame of being the lowest paid WB FO worldwide.

[Hysteria]

Latest class
Yz 220- 7
UL 737- 4
YZ 320- 1
YZ 319- 4
YZ/UL 330FO- 2
UL 330RP- 3
YZ/UL 87RP- 5
YZ 87FO- 5
YZ/UL 77RP- 3
YZ 67- 1

787 FO out of ground school?

Does 787 FO in this scenario get scooped up first?

787 FO is arguably the worse position out of GS.
Shit seniority
Shit schedule
Pays the same as an RP position which has better seniority/schedule.
The insufferable shame of being the lowest paid WB FO worldwide.

I understand. So, what is it in particular about the schedule that makes it worse than, let’s say, NB FO?

[Canuck1988]

787 FO out of ground school?

Does 787 FO in this scenario get scooped up first?

787 FO is arguably the worse position out of GS.
Shit seniority
Shit schedule
Pays the same as an RP position which has better seniority/schedule.
The insufferable shame of being the lowest paid WB FO worldwide.

I understand. So, what is it in particular about the schedule that makes it worse than, let’s say, NB FO?

NB FO is a more junior spot. WB FO is a more senior spot. The NB FO will rise in seniority quicker, and may get a block and more control over their schedule quicker. A WB FO will be stuck bottom of the list for a long time, as more senior people parachute in ahead of them. They might be stuck on reserve forever, have next to no control over their schedule and get the crap flying.

As a WB FO vs RP, the RP gets all the juicy overseas flying, has a fairly efficient schedule (although some RP schedules are rough out of YUL/YYZ due to DH’s one way and short transatlantic flights). The RP will gain seniority in their position quicker as it is a more junior position. The WB may be stuck on reserve for a long time.

[Hysteria]

787 FO is arguably the worse position out of GS.
Shit seniority
Shit schedule
Pays the same as an RP position which has better seniority/schedule.
The insufferable shame of being the lowest paid WB FO worldwide.

I understand. So, what is it in particular about the schedule that makes it worse than, let’s say, NB FO?

NB FO is a more junior spot. WB FO is a more senior spot. The NB FO will rise in seniority quicker, and may get a block and more control over their schedule quicker. A WB FO will be stuck bottom of the list for a long time, as more senior people parachute in ahead of them. They might be stuck on reserve forever, have next to no control over their schedule and get the crap flying.

As a WB FO vs RP, the RP gets all the juicy overseas flying, has a fairly efficient schedule (although some RP schedules are rough out of YUL/YYZ due to DH’s one way and short transatlantic flights). The RP will gain seniority in their position quicker as it is a more junior position. The WB may be stuck on reserve for a long time.

Thanks, that makes perfect sense. Would you say WB FO is a more senior position these days than NB CA?

If you have the chance to upgrade to NB CA in, let's say, 2 years on property, do you have to be NB FO first? Or can you be an RP or WB FO and then upgrade to NB CA? I imagine the latter is viable through one's seniority number?

[daedalusx]

I understand. So, what is it in particular about the schedule that makes it worse than, let’s say, NB FO?

NB FO is a more junior spot. WB FO is a more senior spot. The NB FO will rise in seniority quicker, and may get a block and more control over their schedule quicker. A WB FO will be stuck bottom of the list for a long time, as more senior people parachute in ahead of them. They might be stuck on reserve forever, have next to no control over their schedule and get the crap flying.

As a WB FO vs RP, the RP gets all the juicy overseas flying, has a fairly efficient schedule (although some RP schedules are rough out of YUL/YYZ due to DH’s one way and short transatlantic flights). The RP will gain seniority in their position quicker as it is a more junior position. The WB may be stuck on reserve for a long time.

Thanks, that makes perfect sense. Would you say WB FO is a more senior position these days than NB CA?

If you have the chance to upgrade to NB CA in, let's say, 2 years on property, do you have to be NB FO first? Or can you be an RP or WB FO and then upgrade to NB CA? I imagine the latter is viable through one's seniority number?

You can go from WB RP straight to NB CA as long as your seniority can hold the position. Upgrading to a type you’ve never operated before comes with its own set of challenges but it’s fairly common these days.

[Launchpad1]

You can go from WB RP straight to NB CA as long as your seniority can hold the position. Upgrading to a type you’ve never operated before comes with its own set of challenges but it’s fairly common these days.

Do you know which of the WB RP positions has the best QOL? From what I can tell the 330 seems to do the least length of pairings whereas the 787 has the longest.

[scabbydoo]

You can go from WB RP straight to NB CA as long as your seniority can hold the position. Upgrading to a type you’ve never operated before comes with its own set of challenges but it’s fairly common these days.

Do you know which of the WB RP positions has the best QOL? From what I can tell the 330 seems to do the least length of pairings whereas the 787 has the longest.

Keep in mind, the longer pairings make your schedule more efficient and are likely to have an augment unlike the 330 eched which can have sometimes 6 Atlantic crossings a month.

[MaxAuto]

Be senior on the junior aircraft for QOL