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Re: Maybe we should work together?

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sportingrifle wrote: Sun Jul 30, 2023 3:34 pm I cannot imagine MS walking into a Jazz ground school, much less ever making a statement as legally damaging as that. I call b$&&$#*t.
If he told them a 20 yr payscale with a 20-30% increase, with GUARANTEED flow through, Jazz pilots would gladly vote on it and bend over.

What's legal vs what's ethical? That's your real question.
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Bush wrote: Sun Jul 30, 2023 11:23 am Dozens have left Jazz for other airlines, then successfully come to AC as OTS. This is a lie and they are incapable of exacting such petty revenge in the current market. Vacate Jazz immediately.
Don't you think someone has a wee little black book somewhere?
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alkaseltzer wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 4:57 am
sportingrifle wrote: Sun Jul 30, 2023 3:34 pm I cannot imagine MS walking into a Jazz ground school, much less ever making a statement as legally damaging as that. I call b$&&$#*t.
If he told them a 20 yr payscale with a 20-30% increase, with GUARANTEED flow through, Jazz pilots would gladly vote on it and bend over.

What's legal vs what's ethical? That's your real question.
With your history of bending over, maybe you should refrain from such hypocritical comments!
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alkaseltzer wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 4:58 am
Bush wrote: Sun Jul 30, 2023 11:23 am Dozens have left Jazz for other airlines, then successfully come to AC as OTS. This is a lie and they are incapable of exacting such petty revenge in the current market. Vacate Jazz immediately.
Don't you think someone has a wee little black book somewhere?
Help your fellow pilots out, reach out to Murray or someone in the hiring department and see if you can get more information on this matter. This is one of the ways we can work together more. If there’s no truth to what Murray has supposedly said, that if you leave Jazz to get around flow you’ll be 2 year black listed then thats more information pilots have to help them make informed decisions.
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Re: Maybe we should work together?

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link821 wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 9:42 am
alkaseltzer wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 4:58 am
Bush wrote: Sun Jul 30, 2023 11:23 am Dozens have left Jazz for other airlines, then successfully come to AC as OTS. This is a lie and they are incapable of exacting such petty revenge in the current market. Vacate Jazz immediately.
Don't you think someone has a wee little black book somewhere?
Help your fellow pilots out, reach out to Murray or someone in the hiring department and see if you can get more information on this matter. This is one of the ways we can work together more. If there’s no truth to what Murray has supposedly said, that if you leave Jazz to get around flow you’ll be 2 year black listed then thats more information pilots have to help them make informed decisions.
Man… this is legit why pilots are afraid to move. I know countless that have left jazz to other airlines and gotten on at AC. There’s no MS black list, unless you’re a non motivated pilot or a terrible human being. If you choose your own career path and want to get to AC, you’ll get there. Airlines have always tried to scare their employees in line.

AC loves to take pilots away from the competition. We are valuable.
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Re: Maybe we should work together?

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cdnavater wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 6:44 am
alkaseltzer wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 4:57 am
sportingrifle wrote: Sun Jul 30, 2023 3:34 pm I cannot imagine MS walking into a Jazz ground school, much less ever making a statement as legally damaging as that. I call b$&&$#*t.
If he told them a 20 yr payscale with a 20-30% increase, with GUARANTEED flow through, Jazz pilots would gladly vote on it and bend over.

What's legal vs what's ethical? That's your real question.
With your history of bending over, maybe you should refrain from such hypocritical comments!
I didn’t vote for a 15yr payscale…
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Re: Maybe we should work together?

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alkaseltzer wrote: Thu Aug 03, 2023 9:09 pm
cdnavater wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 6:44 am
alkaseltzer wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 4:57 am

If he told them a 20 yr payscale with a 20-30% increase, with GUARANTEED flow through, Jazz pilots would gladly vote on it and bend over.

What's legal vs what's ethical? That's your real question.
With your history of bending over, maybe you should refrain from such hypocritical comments!
I didn’t vote for a 15yr payscale…
No, you voted for a 10 year, soooo so much better! Way to lead the industry!
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Re: Maybe we should work together?

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cdnavater wrote: Fri Aug 04, 2023 1:37 am
alkaseltzer wrote: Thu Aug 03, 2023 9:09 pm
cdnavater wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 6:44 am

With your history of bending over, maybe you should refrain from such hypocritical comments!
I didn’t vote for a 15yr payscale…
No, you voted for a 10 year, soooo so much better! Way to lead the industry!
Get your facts straight.

Who said I was on property then?

Goof.
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Re: Maybe we should work together?

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alkaseltzer wrote: Fri Aug 04, 2023 11:27 am
cdnavater wrote: Fri Aug 04, 2023 1:37 am
alkaseltzer wrote: Thu Aug 03, 2023 9:09 pm

I didn’t vote for a 15yr payscale…
No, you voted for a 10 year, soooo so much better! Way to lead the industry!
Get your facts straight.

Who said I was on property then?

Goof.
Well, you signed up for the shit show, so I guess you’re part of the problem then, hey!
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Re: Maybe we should work together?

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cdnavater wrote: Fri Aug 04, 2023 11:59 am
alkaseltzer wrote: Fri Aug 04, 2023 11:27 am
cdnavater wrote: Fri Aug 04, 2023 1:37 am

No, you voted for a 10 year, soooo so much better! Way to lead the industry!
Get your facts straight.

Who said I was on property then?

Goof.
Well, you signed up for the shit show, so I guess you’re part of the problem then, hey!
Lol and you signed a 17 year contract. You’ve been exceptionally sour today. Jazz CS feed you the stick today?
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Re: Maybe we should work together?

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CaptDukeNukem wrote: Fri Aug 04, 2023 2:00 pm
cdnavater wrote: Fri Aug 04, 2023 11:59 am
alkaseltzer wrote: Fri Aug 04, 2023 11:27 am

Get your facts straight.

Who said I was on property then?

Goof.
Well, you signed up for the shit show, so I guess you’re part of the problem then, hey!
Lol and you signed a 17 year contract. You’ve been exceptionally sour today. Jazz CS feed you the stick today?
No sir, but somebody told me I should work Christmas and not see my grandkids so someone junior can have it off, now I’m pissy!
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Re: Maybe we should work together?

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cdnavater wrote: Fri Aug 04, 2023 2:06 pm
CaptDukeNukem wrote: Fri Aug 04, 2023 2:00 pm
cdnavater wrote: Fri Aug 04, 2023 11:59 am
Well, you signed up for the shit show, so I guess you’re part of the problem then, hey!
Lol and you signed a 17 year contract. You’ve been exceptionally sour today. Jazz CS feed you the stick today?
No sir, but somebody told me I should work Christmas and not see my grandkids so someone junior can have it off, now I’m pissy!
Yup. That’ll do it. Totally understand.
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Re: Maybe we should work together?

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CaptDukeNukem wrote: Fri Aug 04, 2023 2:00 pm
cdnavater wrote: Fri Aug 04, 2023 11:59 am
alkaseltzer wrote: Fri Aug 04, 2023 11:27 am

Get your facts straight.

Who said I was on property then?

Goof.
Well, you signed up for the shit show, so I guess you’re part of the problem then, hey!
Lol and you signed a 17 year contract. You’ve been exceptionally sour today. Jazz CS feed you the stick today?
They are always sour, and take personally any negative comment about jazz. The company is lucky to have them.
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