Who Funds Medevac flights?

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goldeneagle wrote: Wed Jan 22, 2025 9:33 am
khedrei wrote: Wed Jan 22, 2025 7:49 am Our wonderful system will pay for a woman who is self concious about how small her chest is to get a breast augmentation,

In which province would that procedure be covered by the provincial medical system ? It's certainly not covered where I live.
They cover this crap.

https://www.ontario.ca/page/gender-confirming-surgery
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rookiepilot wrote: Wed Jan 22, 2025 8:00 am
goingnowherefast wrote: Wed Jan 22, 2025 5:49 am
pelmet wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 7:41 pm I did medevacs up north for a while. I suspect with a fast growing population up there, the costs are going up quickly.
This one is becoming a problem. Rapid population growth, but the tax revenue from the north isn't rising to cover the costs.

Its why we need projects like Ontario's ring of fire to be developed. Rapid growth of a population living largely in poverty? Here's work to help get that population out of poverty.
Finally we’re getting somewhere. We want socialism to pay for everything, but nothing gets developed to pay for it. And our population is only getting older on balance.

Energy East? A freaking MAYOR said no.
Northern Gateway? Ditto. Special interest groups said no.
More LNG projects? Protests galore.

You guys voted for this crap, I remind you.

I have the resources to move to the US and get set up in a heartbeat. Piece of cake. I’m not gonna pay for incompetence forever. And many of my peers have. Or maybe Alberta should separate.
So how do we fix it? Alberta can't separate, cause they can't build a pipeline to their ocean coast. Better chance to build a pipeline through the same country, even if the other province doesn't like it.

Do we just straight up stop expanding services to match population growth? That is the most logical thing when there isn't the money to support it. I'm not just picking on the north either. Lots of medevac helicopters landing on hospitals in the south too. They're even more expensive than fixed wing medevac. But saying "no more medevac planes/choppers until the ring of fire is producing tax revenue" isn't politically okay. Although it probably should be.

One government is at least trying with the Ontario Conservatives. Ring of fire mines the minerals. Process them in Thunder Bay. Car battery plants in St. Thomas and the controversy over the one in Windsor.
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goingnowherefast wrote: Wed Jan 22, 2025 6:18 pm
rookiepilot wrote: Wed Jan 22, 2025 8:00 am
goingnowherefast wrote: Wed Jan 22, 2025 5:49 am


This one is becoming a problem. Rapid population growth, but the tax revenue from the north isn't rising to cover the costs.

Its why we need projects like Ontario's ring of fire to be developed. Rapid growth of a population living largely in poverty? Here's work to help get that population out of poverty.
Finally we’re getting somewhere. We want socialism to pay for everything, but nothing gets developed to pay for it. And our population is only getting older on balance.

Energy East? A freaking MAYOR said no.
Northern Gateway? Ditto. Special interest groups said no.
More LNG projects? Protests galore.

You guys voted for this crap, I remind you.

I have the resources to move to the US and get set up in a heartbeat. Piece of cake. I’m not gonna pay for incompetence forever. And many of my peers have. Or maybe Alberta should separate.
So how do we fix it? Alberta can't separate, cause they can't build a pipeline to their ocean coast. Better chance to build a pipeline through the same country, even if the other province doesn't like it.

Do we just straight up stop expanding services to match population growth? That is the most logical thing when there isn't the money to support it. I'm not just picking on the north either. Lots of medevac helicopters landing on hospitals in the south too. They're even more expensive than fixed wing medevac. But saying "no more medevac planes/choppers until the ring of fire is producing tax revenue" isn't politically okay. Although it probably should be.

One government is at least trying with the Ontario Conservatives. Ring of fire mines the minerals. Process them in Thunder Bay. Car battery plants in St. Thomas and the controversy over the one in Windsor.
Stop voting for those destroying this country for starters. The left is simply not to be tolerated.

Why can’t we use videoconferencing to link patients in the north with specialists in the south?
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Unnecessary medevacs are a problem but are a drop in the bucket compared to how much we're spending on flying in diesel fuel for dozens of Reserves that are off-grid. Some of these are now towns with thousands of people and are growing faster than most demographics.
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**** wrote: Wed Jan 22, 2025 6:59 pm Unnecessary medevacs are a problem but are a drop in the bucket compared to how much we're spending on flying in diesel fuel for dozens of Reserves that are off-grid. Some of these are now towns with thousands of people and are growing faster than most demographics.
Why are we flying in diesel ever? Heard of ice roads? Tanker trucks? Storage tanks?

Who are the idiots managing these decisions?

Oh yeah. Just remembered.
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Ice roads are an even bigger waste. Why do we maintain communities that take millions of dollars and 4-5 months to build an ice road (not to mention the environmental waste of pumping water and burning fuel) to get 2 weeks of shipping some building supplies. Thats if it all works out. If the weather turns fast and the road melts, its all for nothing. Have a look at Old Crow. I'd sooner pay once to buy these people new homes and locate them where it's more cost effective than to pay every year (either in flights or ice roads). The waste involved in maintaining this stuff is unreal. If the community isn't accessible by ship, or road, or unless it's a major research station or strategic military post, we shouldn't be paying 100x GDP per capita to maintain it.
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rookiepilot wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 3:20 pm
2112 wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2025 8:31 pm [Everyone is entitled to the same level of care in this country, geographically that means aircraft are a necessity.
What you mean, is what has become a very popular rallying call for socialism “everyone is entitled to the same outcome in life, regardless of ones choices”

Look at the Soviet Union to see how well that ended up.

Why look at the Soviet Union? Why not look at Sweden, Norway, Finland?
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helicopterray wrote: Wed Jan 22, 2025 8:38 pm
rookiepilot wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 3:20 pm
2112 wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2025 8:31 pm [Everyone is entitled to the same level of care in this country, geographically that means aircraft are a necessity.
What you mean, is what has become a very popular rallying call for socialism “everyone is entitled to the same outcome in life, regardless of ones choices”

Look at the Soviet Union to see how well that ended up.

Why look at the Soviet Union? Why not look at Sweden, Norway, Finland?
Because Sweden, Norway and Finland is where we used to be. The Soviet Union is where we are headed. I very much doubt Rookie would have much to say if we were anything like the Scandinavian countries. He can correct me if I'm wrong.
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