When Alberta separate, will it keep Canadian licensing or go the FAA route?

[altiplano]

Oil isn't going to be a long term financial boom, even if every province was cool with pipelines (but would be on their own for spills) who would fund them? It's funny you talk about adapting but have a 1950's mindset when it comes to the economy. A separate Alberta wouldn't do much better.

Lets say the natives are cool with you taking their land, the government gives up the oil in the ground, how is it getting to the market outside the US? Who says Trump will play fair?

I'm in reality when it comes to the economy. Oil isn't going anywhere. There's money in it today and into the future. And that money today will fund the future and the team adaptations that may be needed.

And the economy in this country is collapsing. Climate policies are only controlling access to energy, increasing its cost, and monetizing our guilt over a fairy tale.

"Native land" - I don't buy the assertion and I don't pay lip service to race or identity based policy. I believe in modernism and realism. The only thing that matters is who is here today and a part of this country/province/community and what they are going to contribute to it. There has to be an end to the mindset that has pushed a divergent victim society within Canada, I would suggest that the Revolution would be a good place to wipe all of that clean with a new deal and new future to benefit everyone.

Trump may not play clean, there will be advantage to him taking a side though and it won't be Liberal Canada's side that has nothing he needs... Alberta certainly won't be worse off and oil and gas will still flow in the Canadian pipelines... just look at Europe still buying Russian oil and gas while Putin rebuilds an army on their doorstep... and they can't get enough of it.

That's reality. The world needs oil and gas and they aren't going to stop.

[tsgarp]

Can you let us know how PP's housing plan would work in reality? Or his "fix" for the homeless?

Significantly better than importing 2 million new people to house and hiking taxes on everyone and everything.

Ah so deflecting, nice! Thanks for admitting you don't have any answers.

No deflection. I think the Conservative plan would work quite well, as would his plan to deal with the homeless. You may not like the results, but I’m willing to live with that.

[tsgarp]

I’m over 50 and I apologize for my age cohort…

Thanks. We'll try not to eat you or leave you to die in an ER waiting room staffed by new Canadians on their phones.

I appreciate the sentiment…

[newlygrounded]

Oil isn't going to be a long term financial boom, even if every province was cool with pipelines (but would be on their own for spills) who would fund them? It's funny you talk about adapting but have a 1950's mindset when it comes to the economy. A separate Alberta wouldn't do much better.

Lets say the natives are cool with you taking their land, the government gives up the oil in the ground, how is it getting to the market outside the US? Who says Trump will play fair?

I'm in reality when it comes to the economy. Oil isn't going anywhere. There's money in it today and into the future. And that money today will fund the future and the team adaptations that may be needed.

And the economy in this country is collapsing. Climate policies are only controlling access to energy, increasing its cost, and monetizing our guilt over a fairy tale.

"Native land" - I don't buy the assertion and I don't pay lip service to race or identity based policy. I believe in modernism and realism. The only thing that matters is who is here today and a part of this country/province/community and what they are going to contribute to it. There has to be an end to the mindset that has pushed a divergent victim society within Canada, I would suggest that the Revolution would be a good place to wipe all of that clean with a new deal and new future to benefit everyone.

Trump may not play clean, there will be advantage to him taking a side though and it won't be Liberal Canada's side that has nothing he needs... Alberta certainly won't be worse off and oil and gas will still flow in the Canadian pipelines... just look at Europe still buying Russian oil and gas while Putin rebuilds an army on their doorstep... and they can't get enough of it.

That's reality. The world needs oil and gas and they aren't going to stop.

If you're in reality then you'd see analysts are saying large capex projects like a Canada wide pipeline are seen as risky and not a good investment. Oil will always have demand but if Alberta is smart they'd start to diversify!

The only thing that matters today is the rule of law. We signed a treaty and as a law abiding nation we're going to abide by them.

Significantly better than importing 2 million new people to house and hiking taxes on everyone and everything.

Ah so deflecting, nice! Thanks for admitting you don't have any answers.

Of course the indigenouses don’t want to separate. Do you think Trump or any other country that is formed would continue to allow all the free handouts? Doubtful.

What happened to rule of law? 90% of the "handouts" are the government giving them things that were agreed to in the treaties.

I can tell you first hand - $5,000 for kids clothing and $10,000 for adult ones are NOT agreed upon, they are votes buyout. I live in an area with nearly 50% natives. You know what they used that money for?! FXR, Canada Goose, etc. You know what many did!? Sold it and converted they clothing money to drug money. That is on top of the $100,000 per adults and $50,000 per kid they got the previous year.

Of course, that is on top of the income tax exemption they are getting on their reserve (and yet want the federal government to pay for anything they need, no while contributing NOTHING).

At least natural selection works really well there with their drinking and OD problems.....

Can you link me the clothing articles? They contribute with the resources we agreed to take from what was originally their land.

Imagine being such a terrible person you celebrate people dying from addictions?

Significantly better than importing 2 million new people to house and hiking taxes on everyone and everything.

Ah so deflecting, nice! Thanks for admitting you don't have any answers.

No deflection. I think the Conservative plan would work quite well, as would his plan to deal with the homeless. You may not like the results, but I’m willing to live with that.

His plan was to spend $200,000 a year jailing people with Addictions issues! That sounds very cost effective lmao!

His housing plan was 15% cumulative growth FOREVER, can you let me know where the manpower, cranes etc would come from? How are you going to prevent costs from skyrocketing ala covid when demand shoots up?

[tsgarp]

His plan was to spend $200,000 a year jailing people with Addictions issues! That sounds very cost effective lmao!

His housing plan was 15% cumulative growth FOREVER, can you let me know where the manpower, cranes etc would come from? How are you going to prevent costs from skyrocketing ala covid when demand shoots up?

If that’s what it costs to get them into forced rehab, then so be it. As long as they are out of the parks.

The housing plan was to remove government roadblocks and let people build.

[aviran9111]

Oil isn't going to be a long term financial boom, even if every province was cool with pipelines (but would be on their own for spills) who would fund them? It's funny you talk about adapting but have a 1950's mindset when it comes to the economy. A separate Alberta wouldn't do much better.

Lets say the natives are cool with you taking their land, the government gives up the oil in the ground, how is it getting to the market outside the US? Who says Trump will play fair?

I'm in reality when it comes to the economy. Oil isn't going anywhere. There's money in it today and into the future. And that money today will fund the future and the team adaptations that may be needed.

And the economy in this country is collapsing. Climate policies are only controlling access to energy, increasing its cost, and monetizing our guilt over a fairy tale.

"Native land" - I don't buy the assertion and I don't pay lip service to race or identity based policy. I believe in modernism and realism. The only thing that matters is who is here today and a part of this country/province/community and what they are going to contribute to it. There has to be an end to the mindset that has pushed a divergent victim society within Canada, I would suggest that the Revolution would be a good place to wipe all of that clean with a new deal and new future to benefit everyone.

Trump may not play clean, there will be advantage to him taking a side though and it won't be Liberal Canada's side that has nothing he needs... Alberta certainly won't be worse off and oil and gas will still flow in the Canadian pipelines... just look at Europe still buying Russian oil and gas while Putin rebuilds an army on their doorstep... and they can't get enough of it.

That's reality. The world needs oil and gas and they aren't going to stop.

If you're in reality then you'd see analysts are saying large capex projects like a Canada wide pipeline are seen as risky and not a good investment. Oil will always have demand but if Alberta is smart they'd start to diversify!

The only thing that matters today is the rule of law. We signed a treaty and as a law abiding nation we're going to abide by them.

Ah so deflecting, nice! Thanks for admitting you don't have any answers.



What happened to rule of law? 90% of the "handouts" are the government giving them things that were agreed to in the treaties.

I can tell you first hand - $5,000 for kids clothing and $10,000 for adult ones are NOT agreed upon, they are votes buyout. I live in an area with nearly 50% natives. You know what they used that money for?! FXR, Canada Goose, etc. You know what many did!? Sold it and converted they clothing money to drug money. That is on top of the $100,000 per adults and $50,000 per kid they got the previous year.

Of course, that is on top of the income tax exemption they are getting on their reserve (and yet want the federal government to pay for anything they need, no while contributing NOTHING).

At least natural selection works really well there with their drinking and OD problems.....

Can you link me the clothing articles? They contribute with the resources we agreed to take from what was originally their land.

Imagine being such a terrible person you celebrate people dying from addictions?

Ah so deflecting, nice! Thanks for admitting you don't have any answers.

No deflection. I think the Conservative plan would work quite well, as would his plan to deal with the homeless. You may not like the results, but I’m willing to live with that.

His plan was to spend $200,000 a year jailing people with Addictions issues! That sounds very cost effective lmao!

His housing plan was 15% cumulative growth FOREVER, can you let me know where the manpower, cranes etc would come from? How are you going to prevent costs from skyrocketing ala covid when demand shoots up?

Alberta as a new country, signed no treaty and agreements with anyone, and if the majority of Alberta wants no treaties, than natives can either agree or have their own Alamo.
Secondly, they do NOT own any of the oil lands.
Thirdly, they wouldn't be able to use those natural resources without Western technology.
And lastly, the strong survive, if it boils down to it.

You know what?! Maybe their chiefs should cry harder, get their salary raised from $300,000 to $600,000 and give NOTHING to their own band.
In BC, doctors and nurses used a black humor of guessing those natives BAC without using names. I know firsthand as a former paramedic, black humor is one of the ONLY mechanism to handle the burden. Guess what those bums did? They sues for discrimination, only to get $25,000, which you guessed it - they spent on booze on drugs, and some of them actually OD.

Their problem is NOT our problem. They want their own sovereignty, they can have it, but they need to STOP milking the tax payer and start paying their own damn property and income tax and look after their own from that money.

Edit: As for the links for the clothing money - I could never find one, that is the real shady part of it. I saw that money with my own eyes, I saw hundreds, if not thousands, of Status Card holders getting it, but could never find it. Maybe file a FOIA for it. Funny that after it came, all the reserve's I've being to had Red lawn signs.

[newlygrounded]

His plan was to spend $200,000 a year jailing people with Addictions issues! That sounds very cost effective lmao!

His housing plan was 15% cumulative growth FOREVER, can you let me know where the manpower, cranes etc would come from? How are you going to prevent costs from skyrocketing ala covid when demand shoots up?

If that’s what it costs to get them into forced rehab, then so be it. As long as they are out of the parks.

The housing plan was to remove government roadblocks and let people build.

No, that's jail. There is no rehab plan. We can talk about forced rehab when VOLUNTARY rehab is actually accessible and not 2 sessions 6 months down the road.

That's also not his housing plan. Can you let me know FEDERALLY what roadblocks are in place? Housing in provincial/municipal.

I'm in reality when it comes to the economy. Oil isn't going anywhere. There's money in it today and into the future. And that money today will fund the future and the team adaptations that may be needed.

And the economy in this country is collapsing. Climate policies are only controlling access to energy, increasing its cost, and monetizing our guilt over a fairy tale.

"Native land" - I don't buy the assertion and I don't pay lip service to race or identity based policy. I believe in modernism and realism. The only thing that matters is who is here today and a part of this country/province/community and what they are going to contribute to it. There has to be an end to the mindset that has pushed a divergent victim society within Canada, I would suggest that the Revolution would be a good place to wipe all of that clean with a new deal and new future to benefit everyone.

Trump may not play clean, there will be advantage to him taking a side though and it won't be Liberal Canada's side that has nothing he needs... Alberta certainly won't be worse off and oil and gas will still flow in the Canadian pipelines... just look at Europe still buying Russian oil and gas while Putin rebuilds an army on their doorstep... and they can't get enough of it.

That's reality. The world needs oil and gas and they aren't going to stop.

If you're in reality then you'd see analysts are saying large capex projects like a Canada wide pipeline are seen as risky and not a good investment. Oil will always have demand but if Alberta is smart they'd start to diversify!

The only thing that matters today is the rule of law. We signed a treaty and as a law abiding nation we're going to abide by them.

I can tell you first hand - $5,000 for kids clothing and $10,000 for adult ones are NOT agreed upon, they are votes buyout. I live in an area with nearly 50% natives. You know what they used that money for?! FXR, Canada Goose, etc. You know what many did!? Sold it and converted they clothing money to drug money. That is on top of the $100,000 per adults and $50,000 per kid they got the previous year.

Of course, that is on top of the income tax exemption they are getting on their reserve (and yet want the federal government to pay for anything they need, no while contributing NOTHING).

At least natural selection works really well there with their drinking and OD problems.....

Can you link me the clothing articles? They contribute with the resources we agreed to take from what was originally their land.

Imagine being such a terrible person you celebrate people dying from addictions?

No deflection. I think the Conservative plan would work quite well, as would his plan to deal with the homeless. You may not like the results, but I’m willing to live with that.

His plan was to spend $200,000 a year jailing people with Addictions issues! That sounds very cost effective lmao!

His housing plan was 15% cumulative growth FOREVER, can you let me know where the manpower, cranes etc would come from? How are you going to prevent costs from skyrocketing ala covid when demand shoots up?

Alberta as a new country, signed no treaty and agreements with anyone, and if the majority of Alberta wants no treaties, than natives can either agree or have their own Alamo.
Secondly, they do NOT own any of the oil lands.
Thirdly, they wouldn't be able to use those natural resources without Western technology.
And lastly, the strong survive, if it boils down to it.

You know what?! Maybe their chiefs should cry harder, get their salary raised from $300,000 to $600,000 and give NOTHING to their own band.
In BC, doctors and nurses used a black humor of guessing those natives BAC without using names. I know firsthand as a former paramedic, black humor is one of the ONLY mechanism to handle the burden. Guess what those bums did? They sues for discrimination, only to get $25,000, which you guessed it - they spent on booze on drugs, and some of them actually OD.

Their problem is NOT our problem. They want their own sovereignty, they can have it, but they need to STOP milking the tax payer and start paying their own damn property and income tax and look after their own from that money.

Edit: As for the links for the clothing money - I could never find one, that is the real shady part of it. I saw that money with my own eyes, I saw hundreds, if not thousands, of Status Card holders getting it, but could never find it. Maybe file a FOIA for it. Funny that after it came, all the reserve's I've being to had Red lawn signs.

Thanks for admitting you made it up!

[Daniel Cooper]

Put the prisoners to work building houses.

[newlygrounded]

If that’s what it costs to get them into forced rehab, then so be it. As long as they are out of the parks.

The housing plan was to remove government roadblocks and let people build.

No, that's jail. There is no rehab plan. We can talk about forced rehab when VOLUNTARY rehab is actually accessible and not 2 sessions 6 months down the road.

That's also not his housing plan. Can you let me know FEDERALLY what roadblocks are in place? Housing in provincial/municipal.

Alberta as a new country, signed no treaty and agreements with anyone, and if the majority of Alberta wants no treaties, than natives can either agree or have their own Alamo.
Secondly, they do NOT own any of the oil lands.
Thirdly, they wouldn't be able to use those natural resources without Western technology.
And lastly, the strong survive, if it boils down to it.

You know what?! Maybe their chiefs should cry harder, get their salary raised from $300,000 to $600,000 and give NOTHING to their own band.
In BC, doctors and nurses used a black humor of guessing those natives BAC without using names. I know firsthand as a former paramedic, black humor is one of the ONLY mechanism to handle the burden. Guess what those bums did? They sues for discrimination, only to get $25,000, which you guessed it - they spent on booze on drugs, and some of them actually OD.

Their problem is NOT our problem. They want their own sovereignty, they can have it, but they need to STOP milking the tax payer and start paying their own damn property and income tax and look after their own from that money.

Edit: As for the links for the clothing money - I could never find one, that is the real shady part of it. I saw that money with my own eyes, I saw hundreds, if not thousands, of Status Card holders getting it, but could never find it. Maybe file a FOIA for it. Funny that after it came, all the reserve's I've being to had Red lawn signs.

Thanks for admitting you made it up!

Such an idiot. I did NOT made it up. but in all reality - go f yourself. I don't need you lowlife Libtard to believe me anyway

Don't see why you're so mad? Why attack people, shows your character! ANYTHING given without evidence can be dismissed without evidence!

[phenix]

What is the plan if, after Alberta separates, Northern Alberta wants to separate from Southern Alberta and form a petrostate?

[Me262]

Do I need to go buy property with Albert to get American citizenship when this happens?

[aviran9111]

Do I need to go buy property with Albert to get American citizenship when this happens?

That won't be enough. You'd have to live there when it happens

[aviran9111]

No, that's jail. There is no rehab plan. We can talk about forced rehab when VOLUNTARY rehab is actually accessible and not 2 sessions 6 months down the road.

That's also not his housing plan. Can you let me know FEDERALLY what roadblocks are in place? Housing in provincial/municipal.



Thanks for admitting you made it up!

Such an idiot. I did NOT made it up. but in all reality - go f yourself. I don't need you lowlife Libtard to believe me anyway

Don't see why you're so mad? Why attack people, shows your character! ANYTHING given without evidence can be dismissed without evidence!

As I said - it's hard when the federal government is doing everything in their power to suppress evidence, and it won't be a first. Just watch the amount of time Rebel news took them to court and won, because they called their evidence "S.39 of the Evidence Act" (go look it up). I saw those cheques with my own eyes, signed by the federal government, along with the stupid requirement of sending receipts of the clothing you buy.

[aviran9111]

What is the plan if, after Alberta separates, Northern Alberta wants to separate from Southern Alberta and form a petrostate?

That will be 100% Dumb, but go ahead, they can try.

[tsgarp]

[quote=newlygrounded post_id=1338591 time=1746492683 user_id=
No, that's jail. There is no rehab plan. We can talk about forced rehab when VOLUNTARY rehab is actually accessible and not 2 sessions 6 months down the road.

That's also not his housing plan. Can you let me know FEDERALLY what roadblocks are in place? Housing in provincial/municipal.

[/quote]

Inmates have access to a medical system, which includes addictions treatment.

The federal government has the authority and ability to encourage and direct lower levels of government to implement housing initiatives.

Please explain how achieving net zero through taxation will improve housing and homelessness.

[newlygrounded]

[quote=newlygrounded post_id=1338591 time=1746492683 user_id=
No, that's jail. There is no rehab plan. We can talk about forced rehab when VOLUNTARY rehab is actually accessible and not 2 sessions 6 months down the road.

That's also not his housing plan. Can you let me know FEDERALLY what roadblocks are in place? Housing in provincial/municipal.

Inmates have access to a medical system, which includes addictions treatment.

The federal government has the authority and ability to encourage and direct lower levels of government to implement housing initiatives.

Please explain how achieving net zero through taxation will improve housing and homelessness.
[/quote]
So if you see someone on drugs on the street the correct answer is to conduct an expensive court trial, spend hundreds of thousands a year jailing them instead of putting more money into resources for rehab?

That’s the thing, unlike conservatives I won’t defend every part of the liberals plan though personally I think it’s important to meet our climate change agreements we signed in the past

[itsgrosswhatinet]

So if you see someone on drugs on the street the correct answer is to conduct an expensive court trial, spend hundreds of thousands a year jailing them instead of putting more money into resources for rehab?

It works in Asia. Harsh criminal penalties for drugs are a deterrent not a treatment plan. You don't have to lock up everyone. When people find out Tim from 3 tents down went to prison for 25 years for using fentanyl suddenly addiction recovery becomes much more possible for them.

[tsgarp]

So if you see someone on drugs on the street the correct answer is to conduct an expensive court trial, spend hundreds of thousands a year jailing them instead of putting more money into resources for rehab?

Yes; costs about the same for rehab vs jail. Jail makes sure they aren’t making trouble while they are getting well, and if they don’t get well, it makes sure they don’t make trouble.

That’s the thing, unlike conservatives I won’t defend every part of the liberals plan though personally I think it’s important to meet our climate change agreements we signed in the past

So, you just don’t like Conservatives but you don’t have any better ideas. I hope you are in Quebec or the Maritimes so when the West separates we don’t take you with us.

[newlygrounded]

So if you see someone on drugs on the street the correct answer is to conduct an expensive court trial, spend hundreds of thousands a year jailing them instead of putting more money into resources for rehab?

Yes; costs about the same for rehab vs jail. Jail makes sure they aren’t making trouble while they are getting well, and if they don’t get well, it makes sure they don’t make trouble.

That’s the thing, unlike conservatives I won’t defend every part of the liberals plan though personally I think it’s important to meet our climate change agreements we signed in the past

So, you just don’t like Conservatives but you don’t have any better ideas. I hope you are in Quebec or the Maritimes so when the West separates we don’t take you with us.

Rehab is nowhere near the cost of prison! Rehab doesn’t come with court costs, police overtime etc. Do you want my take?

Make it so that voluntary rehab is accessible! You can’t force people into something when they don’t even have the option to do it on their own free will! Provide STABLE housing and a pathway to employment for people on the street. Unlike your idea which hasn’t worked anywhere in the world, look at Finland? They’re doing the things I’ve described and have a 70% in homelessness.

That’s something I don’t get this place? You guys hate Kearney and the liberals because they are more of the same yet you preach more of the same for things that clearly don’t work.


Are you mad about drug use? Are you mad about “welfare queens” where is this energy when it comes to jailing people in the pharama companies that lied about how addictive pain killers are? Where is the angry about corporate welfare?

[Dry Guy]

Unlike your idea which hasn’t worked anywhere in the world

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... story.html

[newlygrounded]

Unlike your idea which hasn’t worked anywhere in the world

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... story.html

I hate to tell you, but we have rights as well as a Supreme Court! But I guess you guys don’t believe in treaties so that’s out the window

[cncpc]

There are some dismally stupid motherfuckers posting in this thread. If it were not for the geographic accident of oil being beneath your feet, ye'd all be sleeping in cardboard boxes under the Low Level bridge. Separate? Most of you probably can't fill out your income tax return.

[itsgrosswhatinet]

Unlike your idea which hasn’t worked anywhere in the world

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... story.html

I hate to tell you, but we have rights as well as a Supreme Court! But I guess you guys don’t believe in treaties so that’s out the window

When shown evidence you are wrong your response is that people have the right to be criminals. This is why we want to separate from you. I can't understand your way of being at all. How can you think protecting criminals is in the interest of a healthy society? You are infantilizing them, just like you infantilize First Nations peoples.

[goldeneagle]

So to get back to the original question, that of licensing.

For aircrew, both Canada and the US have process in place to validate an aircrew license for a foreigner, those processes wouldn't go away. Alberta will likely have to put in place it's own systems eventually.

But then the stickler, with Alberta being a foreign country, what happens to all the Westjet routes? An Alberta based airline would no longer have the right to do routes originating in YVR, YWG, YYZ, YUL or YHZ to anywhere other than alberta, basically they will have YYC and YEG, as departure points for international flights. No more southern sun flying from the rest of Canada for WJ over the winter out of any of the other larger centers, ie no more Hawaii out of YVR.

If Alberta heads down that path, Encore is essentially DOA, there wont be any place left for them to go, and the WJ mainline will have to shrink substantially, down to just what goes in and out of Alberta.

[Daniel Cooper]

Access to the American domestic air travel market would be a boon for any airline.

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