Why do people mock the ideals veterans defended?

[grimey]

PS. Before you go saying that those previous exs. weren't in Canada, they were.

It does not follow that because excluding one group from being from a larger group is wrong, that excluding another separate group is also wrong.

[grimey]

There actually is a unified national law, but it was ruled to be not in effect by the Supreme Court of Canada. Now I'm not lawyer but if the Supreme Court says something, the provinces can't overrule, a sort of "the puck stops here" type of deal. The only thing that differs province by province is the amount of funding provided and where abortions are to be offered. That said, you receive a full term abortion anywhere in Canada.

Any province wishing to ban abortion could do so, they'd simply have to re-ban it every 5 years. Read Section 33 of the Charter of Rights and Freedoms.

[taxiway_matthew]

Don't try and play on peoples heartstrings by comparing abortion to a genocide. It only makes you look foolish and shows you've led a fairly insulated life. Go to the Sudan, Rwanda or Cambodia and tell me what you think then.

I think thats just as wrong. Don't get me wrong, I'm Pro-Life, not just Pro-Fetus. I think the Sudan situation is f***ed up just as much as the next person, only thing is, its a moral fact Sudan and Rwanda etc is wrong, theres no need for me to beat my brest about this situation on here. Abortion on the other, is so hotly contested and I think its straight up murder, so when other people ignore that, of course I'm going to speak up, I'm not going to sit here and let it just happen.I'm nt trying to play anyone's heart strings, I'm telling you what it is. If you want a more politically correct word, lets call it mass-murder from now on.

Taxiway_matthew, you must be of middle eastern origin because you've expertly hijacked this thread.

Racism, congratulations, a cunning tactic indeed.

An elective abortion I believe in most provinces is restricted to the 20th to the 22nd week

By doctors maybe not by law, to the best of my knowledge, but by all means, prove me wrong.

Uh, no. It's the equivalent of saying we support alcoholism, because we don't have laws governing how much you're allowed to drink in your own home. There's no law governing late term abortions because doctors are regulating themselves, and therefore there's no need for a law.

Nice, except for one difference, theres a difference between alchoholism and abortion, its like apples and oranges. Saying we don't regulate alcohol levels is like saying we don't regulate scapel/vacuum distribution. Those are simply the means. With your alcoholism issue you're regulating the means by which the end comes about...alcohol is the means to the end alcoholism. For your analogy to work for abortion, you'd have to regulate the means, surgical instruments/funding/doctors to get the end, the actual abortion.

Last I checked, there were laws against lewd behaviour, against beating your wife, against drunk driving...all results of alchoholism.

No laws against the results of abortion I'm afriad, so your analogy doesn't really work.

Any province wishing to ban abortion could do so, they'd simply have to re-ban it every 5 years. Read Section 33 of the Charter of Rights and Freedoms.

If a province wanted to declare me King of the World they could, but they don't, so we got to focus on the now and the facts, not the what ifs and coulds.


Basically the arguement comes down to when does life begin, settle that and the whole arguements done, unless you want to be a bona fide murderer.

[grimey]

Uh, no. It's the equivalent of saying we support alcoholism, because we don't have laws governing how much you're allowed to drink in your own home. There's no law governing late term abortions because doctors are regulating themselves, and therefore there's no need for a law.

Nice, except for one difference, theres a difference between alchoholism and abortion, its like apples and oranges. Saying we don't regulate alcohol levels is like saying we don't regulate scapel/vacuum distribution. Those are simply the means. With your alcoholism issue you're regulating the means by which the end comes about...alcohol is the means to the end alcoholism. For your analogy to work for abortion, you'd have to regulate the means, surgical instruments/funding/doctors to get the end, the actual abortion.

Doctors are licensed to practice medicine.

Last I checked, there were laws against lewd behaviour, against beating your wife, against drunk driving...all results of alchoholism.

Strawman. What are the laws against my drinking myself to death.

No laws against the results of abortion I'm afriad, so your analogy doesn't really work.

What are the results of an abortion, other than the obvious?

Any province wishing to ban abortion could do so, they'd simply have to re-ban it every 5 years. Read Section 33 of the Charter of Rights and Freedoms.

If a province wanted to declare me King of the World they could, but they don't, so we got to focus on the now and the facts, not the what ifs and coulds.

Huh? I could declare myself king of the world too, but just like a province, I wouldn't have the jurisdiction to do so. The rest of the world would ignore me. If a province wanted to ban abortion inside of it's borders, all it has to do is invoke the notwithstanding clause of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms. That IS within it's jurisdiction.

[Bookem Lou]

Racism, congratulations, a cunning tactic indeed.

Lighten up. It was attempt at humour that obviously didn't come through the computer.

[Four1oh]

can someone rename this thread to "Just another abortion thread"

[taxiway_matthew]

Racism, congratulations, a cunning tactic indeed.

Lighten up. It was attempt at humour that obviously didn't come through the computer.

Guess mine didn't either

[F/O Crunch]

I was just about to go watch some blind angry people play ping pong, but this is way better!!

[5400AirportRdSouth]

Seriously F/O, Question Period on C-Span is SOO boring, I dont know how you can watch that $hit.