Emirates recruitment drive

[complexintentions]

you know what? i would forget the recruitment drive. I have heard nothing but terrible things about this company, and the country.

There are way way way better jobs here

i would rather work at a screen door factory here than fly a 777 over "there"

lol Most enlightened post, ever.

See, I had a similar experience in reverse. I had heard nothing but terrible things about screen door factories, even though I had never been to one or even operated a screen door.

I was so scared I decided to go fly a 777 over "here" rather than get one of those way way way better jobs!

Whew.

[WJ700]

I too have heard terrible things about certain sketchy screen door companies.

[Stick-Shaker]

...and all the union BS I sure don't miss.

Glad to hear that you don't miss it, since you'll never see one in the UAE not without getting your nuts chopped off. So, along with not missing the "Union BS", I hope you never need one.

Like it has been said, we all have freinds that work there. The ones I know, love Emirates too. But they also will admit that EK will send you packing, take away upgrades, and withhold profit sharing if you screw up. The same screw up at AC would net you a phone call or meeting with your line manager. I admit there is some union BS. But if I step in shi t along the way, my union will be there to help me scrape it off my shoe.

[Crown_n_Coke]

CI - don't be such a knob. Tony just pointed out that most AC skippers also make good dough and you go on a rampage - trashing everyting from AC's 767's, to the appearance of the FA's. We're all thrilled for you that you've found your little slice of paradise now quit rubbing our noses in it and go out in your "backyard" and pound some sand. lol.

[complexintentions]

lol God I wrote that post a month ago, did it take you that long to come up with "pound sand"?! geez.

I'm trying to remember where I ever said AC skippers don't make good dough...that was my point...when someone answers a question that wasn't asked, it makes them sound defensive. It was a thread about Emirates recruiting, not AC skipper pay. The pay on an AC widebody IS pretty good...but you don't get it after only a few years. Rubbing your nose in it? If that's how you feel why don't you quit crying, quit being a knob and throw your application in so I can have yet more Canuck beer-swillers to hang with!

[YVR Dude]

Well, it finally came to this...I had to answer my own post...

Here's the stuff!




Emirates will be conducting information sessions in Canada and the US during January and early February. These sessions will provide more information on Emirates, our selection programme, the benefits of living and working in Dubai and details of our remuneration package. We will be able to review your experience and, if our criteria are met, an invitation to attend a full selection programme in Dubai may be extended (travel fully funded).

Please note that the sessions will begin sharply at the respective times and spouses are welcome to attend.

29th Jan. 2008 (Toronto) Fairmont Royal York 100 Front Street West 1.00pm – 4.30pm
30th Jan. 2008 (Calgary) Hyatt Regency Calgary 700 Centre Street SE 2.00pm – 5.30pm
31st Jan. 2008 (Vancouver) Hyatt Regency Vancouver 655 Burrard Street 2.00pm – 5.30pm
2nd Feb. 2008 (San Fran) Renaissance Stanford Crt 905 California St. - Nob Hill 10.00am – 1.30pm

Emirates' minimum requirements for Direct Entry Captains and First Officers can be found on our careers website, click here to view it.
We ask you to bring the following items:

- Copy of your online application (if available)
- Original licence and medical certificate
- Verification of flying hours (logbooks or certified statements)

We look forward to seeing you there.

[tonysoprano]

when someone answers a question that wasn't asked, it makes them sound defensive

Complex. Sorry dude, I get the impression you were deeply offended and disturbed with my revelation about the AC salaries. I didn't mean to start anything. I just found it interesting that the numbers were the same at both companies. Had you stated a higher salary at EK, we wouldn't be having this exchange. It would seem though that it was you who did most of the answering to questions that weren't brought up. Going into a tantrum fit about AC service just because AC salaries are the same as EK? Wow. I really should be spending less time here and more time on our ACPA forum. The immaturity here is pathetic.

[Czar]

Tony, let's be fair.
This thread is about Emirates (recruitment, benefits, lifestyle in dubai). However, you made a clear choice to reply to this thread and bring up Air Canada. We can debate this till we turn blue, so why bother. To use a famous rhetoric, it's apples and oranges.

[complexintentions]

lol ahhhh Tony....tell ya what. I'll come on over to the AC forum onto a thread asking about AC interviews and the recruitment process. When you're explaining how it works, maybe telling someone how many years it'll take to be a B777 skipper, I'll make an unsolicited comment along the lines of "wow! it takes that long? You could do that at Emirates in 3 years, and not have to wait the extra 10 years! And not even have to live in Toronto, to boot!". (It's actually 18 months if you come with the >55t command time.)

Except if I did that, I'd sound like an orange or apple-flavoured jackass...and maybe someone would call me that, and rightly so. And then I'd whine about how I didn't mean to offend, etc etc etc *yawn*

No offense taken...just like to call a sh$t-stirrer for what he is. We all need a hobby. Actually I need another drink.

Ya still owe me a beer in FCO.

[tonysoprano]

ComplexGuy.
Sounds like you know a great deal about being a sh*t disturber. Which by the way, again, was not the intent of my salary post. Too bad your sensitivity got in the way, causing your tantrum. Must be the sandbox syndrome, I don't know. I suggest we chalk this one up to an oversensitive misunderstanding and move on. I'd love to buy you a beer in FCO but the rest of my crew probably wouldn't put up with you. You'd probably take a fit about how the beer in Rome is lousy and doesn't compare with the beer in Dubai.

Czar. I made a clear choice to reply because Complex decided to tell us all how much better things are where he is. That's a comparable statement. Maybe it is better, but that's a biased opinion. I just thought he might want to know that as far as money goes, some people are doing well right here at home too. WTF*ck is the big deal? Good luck with your interview. Please, keep us posted.

[complexintentions]

Who said anything about wanting to hang out with your crew? Your crew would probably be off shopping for new support hose or denture cleaner or whatever. Haven't we covered this?

We'll have to take a pass on the beer though, because upon reflection I really couldn't risk having you hanging out with our cabin crew either. It would ruin their carefully cultivated perception of Canadians as good guys when you starting spouting (even though no one asked) about how they could've had the same beer without ever leaving Canada. That would sound particularly ignorant to to the non-Canadians and undo much good will.

Your wounded tone amuses me, thanks for that! Poor, misunderstood, unbiased Anthony...why won't everyone just agree with him? lol I related some of the advantages of working here - if you choose to characterize that as "better", well that's your value judgement, not mine. Nothing I said wasn't true. I think I have tried to make clear it ain't perfect either, and not everyones cup of tea. Yet you felt the need to butt in. So who's being sensitive? hmmm.

Now why don't you run back to the AC forum and tell prospective AC employees some of the benefits of working there, and I will continue to do the same with EK here? Makes sense to me...

CI, out.

[tonysoprano]

ComplexGuy.
You're f*ckn hilarious. I'm going to leave this post knowing that you made some snide remarks about YYZ and how we have to work a life time to make what you will in ten years. All I did was inform you that it's possible to make the same money right here in that "ass" yyz (very informative post, BTW). That's it that's all. You then took a tantrum and bashed AC. I would have expected more class from such a "priviledged" pilot. Hey, you're not complex at all. I think most of us can read you like a child's book. Salecum Allah brother.

[RB-211]

Scouser accent..........

Calm down calm down.

[Obbie]

So how was the turn out in YYC ? Anybody go ?

The YYZ one was full, maybe 55 to 60 people, 5 or 6 being wives.
I would say they handed out 40 to 45 interviews.
Very nice presentation, and they were honest about many pros and cons.

And it's not oil carrying the airline, they averaged load factors last year of 94%
And a profit that would make Milton fall to his knees and cry.

Several Jazz guys, Flair, SunWing, and AC F/O's.

Good luck to all !!!

[hopper]

It is true that many countries overseas have similar issues, however these are relevant complaints and you will experience these frustrations in Dubai. It may take a few months or a few years, but you will get very tired, very quickly of these seemingly tiny, but constant problems. As we have said in other countries...it's like death by a thousand cuts. You will complain and become frustrated over time with anything that is very culturally different regardless of where you are. The heat and headaches of day to day living in muslum law nations can become very tiresome.

The gov't should scare you. It is important to be careful after you become comfortable living in Muslim law nations. The rules are different and you may not be awarded the same treatment by police and gov't if you cross the line. It can happen quickly and by an innocent mistake. It could be much worse for your wife. On the other side of the coin, the police or gov't may not protect you as an innocent when you are involved with a dispute as a national.

As a pilot, you get away from the day to day issues and fly to amazing destinations. You come home to your fancy apartment, lounge at the pool and yes, your houseboy cleaned your apartment. But your wife is risking her life on the roads, being treated as a second class citizen and dealing with day to day crap of trying to buy a bottle of wine. Life as an expat becomes twice as difficult, life as an expat women will be even harder. Do not underestimate how uncomfortable it can be for women in these country's...even "progressive" Dubai. Many beautiful white girls are often Russian prostitutes and that does not help women already difficult situation.

Some people don't sweat the little things and enjoy the obvious benefits of what the city has to offer. Or they travel and get breaks from the frustrations and are not around enough for the little things to add up to become a stress. Dubai is really a cool city to visit...just think about your wife/husband or significant other who will not be flying at Emirates. Life will be much more challenging. Dubai or any city will be what you and your spouse make it. I am sure there are very happy people living in Dubai.

As a pilot I have lived in "challenging" Muslim law nations, the issues are mostly the same in each and the same as the previous posted. It takes some getting used to. I just think that people overlook what are really not such small issues when they leave Canada to work for more money in these country's. It will be amazing if you are single...just do your "due diligence" if you have a family and travel out of Dubai a lot on time off!

On a side note...many people tend to remember the great things about working or living somewhere after they leave. Talk to people who are currently living Dubai for an accurate picture. Don't discount how important this is.