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The Hammer
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Heading southward, Skyward sells Rankin hangar
WebPosted Feb 23 2005 08:06 AM MST
CBC News
RANKIN INLET, Nunavut - Skyward Aviation is vowing to make a comeback in the Kivalliq – even as it pulls up the last of its roots in the region.
Skyward discontinued scheduled flights in the Kivalliq after it lost the regional medevac contract in 2003.
Now, it's trying to sell its hangar and residential properties in Rankin Inlet.
But Richard Halliday, a spokesperson for Skyward, says the sell-off doesn't affect Skyward's plans to return to the Kivalliq region.
First, however, it will have to get its operating certificate back.
Three weeks ago, Transport Canada grounded all Skyward flights in Canada, citing safety deficiencies.
That forced the company to lay off about half its staff.
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Corporate Pilot
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Finally, some non-news from Winnipeg Free Press Online!
Winnipeg Free Press
Online Edition
Wednesday, February 23rd, 2005
Northern air service remains grounded
Communities worry as winter roads decay
Wednesday, February 23rd, 2005
By Leah Janzen
REMOTE northern communities are worried they will be stranded if Skyward Aviation -- grounded in January due to safety concerns -- does not get its licence back before winter roads begin to break up next month.
"Many northern places are strictly fly-in communities which only have road access in the winter," said Manitoba Keewatinook Ininew Okimowin (MKO) Grand Chief Sydney Garrioch, who represents 30 northern First Nation communities. "It will certainly create some difficulties if they still aren't flying when those roads are gone."
Garrioch said many of the winter roads which provide access to the northern communities will begin to become impassable within weeks.
More than three weeks ago, Skyward Aviation -- which serves remote northern communities through passenger and medevac flights -- had its entire fleet of 25 planes grounded by Transport Canada due to safety concerns.
A week earlier, Transport Canada inspectors had conducted an audit of Skyward Aviation's maintenance and operations procedures and found problems with the condition of a number of aircraft.
Inspectors also found specific defects on some of the planes, in addition to general concerns about training, aircraft maintenance and management systems.
Initially, after losing its licence on Jan. 31, Skyward contracted with a number of other small airlines in the province to take on some of their flights.
But in a notice on Skyward's website dated Feb. 11, the airline told its customers it had stopped using the other airlines and assured passengers Skyward would be back up in the air by Feb. 15.
However, Glyniss Hutchings of Transport Canada said yesterday that Skyward Aviation has not yet completed the work necessary to get its licence back.
"There is nothing new to report, they remain suspended," she said.
Yesterday, Richard Halliday, marketing and sales manager for Skyward Aviation, said the company jumped the gun by pledging to be in the air by Feb. 15.
leah.janzen@freepress.mb.ca
© 2005 Winnipeg Free Press. All Rights Reserved.
Winnipeg Free Press
Online Edition
Wednesday, February 23rd, 2005
Northern air service remains grounded
Communities worry as winter roads decay
Wednesday, February 23rd, 2005
By Leah Janzen
REMOTE northern communities are worried they will be stranded if Skyward Aviation -- grounded in January due to safety concerns -- does not get its licence back before winter roads begin to break up next month.
"Many northern places are strictly fly-in communities which only have road access in the winter," said Manitoba Keewatinook Ininew Okimowin (MKO) Grand Chief Sydney Garrioch, who represents 30 northern First Nation communities. "It will certainly create some difficulties if they still aren't flying when those roads are gone."
Garrioch said many of the winter roads which provide access to the northern communities will begin to become impassable within weeks.
More than three weeks ago, Skyward Aviation -- which serves remote northern communities through passenger and medevac flights -- had its entire fleet of 25 planes grounded by Transport Canada due to safety concerns.
A week earlier, Transport Canada inspectors had conducted an audit of Skyward Aviation's maintenance and operations procedures and found problems with the condition of a number of aircraft.
Inspectors also found specific defects on some of the planes, in addition to general concerns about training, aircraft maintenance and management systems.
Initially, after losing its licence on Jan. 31, Skyward contracted with a number of other small airlines in the province to take on some of their flights.
But in a notice on Skyward's website dated Feb. 11, the airline told its customers it had stopped using the other airlines and assured passengers Skyward would be back up in the air by Feb. 15.
However, Glyniss Hutchings of Transport Canada said yesterday that Skyward Aviation has not yet completed the work necessary to get its licence back.
"There is nothing new to report, they remain suspended," she said.
Yesterday, Richard Halliday, marketing and sales manager for Skyward Aviation, said the company jumped the gun by pledging to be in the air by Feb. 15.
leah.janzen@freepress.mb.ca
© 2005 Winnipeg Free Press. All Rights Reserved.
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[img][/img]Well the latest stroy:
Is that Borek has bought the Rankin Base (hanger etc) from Skyward, and the there is the possibility that they are looking at buying out 2 of the 3 owners - of course not Frank. That is the story going around the Skyward boardroom this morning.
If that is the case, that is pretty much a nail in the coffin for all the pistons.
Who knows........
Is that Borek has bought the Rankin Base (hanger etc) from Skyward, and the there is the possibility that they are looking at buying out 2 of the 3 owners - of course not Frank. That is the story going around the Skyward boardroom this morning.
If that is the case, that is pretty much a nail in the coffin for all the pistons.
Who knows........
From http://www.skyward.mb.ca
Important Customer Notice:
February 23, 2005
Dear Valued Customer:
RE: Skyward Aviation
In an effort to keep everyone informed regarding Skyward’s progress toward restoring services, we wish to advise that when we can issue a resumption of services timetable with confidence, an announcement will be distributed. That timetable will permit us to finalize a plan of services, arrange the appropriate equipment and personnel, and establish realistic, achievable objectives.
Please be assured that Skyward is dedicating all of our resources to the quickest possible resolution of the situation.
Thank you for your continued support, Management & Staff
Skyward Aviation Ltd.
Toll Free Reservations 1-888-759-9273
Thompson 778-1610
Winnipeg 948-9480
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Lookie, you have it all wrong - the company that is getting involved, because of a commonality of planes and some pilots, is none other than Pacific Coastal. They are starting a new division called Arctic Coastal, or ARSCO, for short! 
Say, what's that mountain goat doing up here in the mist?
Happiness is V1 at Thompson!
Ass, Licence, Job. In that order.
Happiness is V1 at Thompson!
Ass, Licence, Job. In that order.
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No more BS
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Alright, how about some facts.
Hangars for sale..Borek putting 1900 on floats out of Shamattawa..managers roaming through the bush looking for work..who knows, haven't heard anything concrete.
However, one 1900 is sold. There are still a lot of people fighting to get the company back up and running. Seems that T.C. once again can't decide what it wants. Pilots and rampies are being kept uptodate on proceedings, although some have already left for 'greener' pastures. There is no deadline for reinstatement of the OC. Keep your fingers crossed.
S.
Hangars for sale..Borek putting 1900 on floats out of Shamattawa..managers roaming through the bush looking for work..who knows, haven't heard anything concrete.
However, one 1900 is sold. There are still a lot of people fighting to get the company back up and running. Seems that T.C. once again can't decide what it wants. Pilots and rampies are being kept uptodate on proceedings, although some have already left for 'greener' pastures. There is no deadline for reinstatement of the OC. Keep your fingers crossed.
S.
I would think that if something doesn't happen soon this company will have no pilots, ame's, ect... left to start up with again. Yes they are being kept informed, that's one mans job there, to try and keep the optimism going, tough job, and the longer it goes the tougher it will be, and people will leave. They do have to eat and pay bills.
Some blame transport canada but from my perspective the bottom line is if their were nothing wrong with the way this company ran it's business, they would still be flying. We are not privy to what has transpired between company CEO, management and Transport so anything that might be said is speculation.
If I were a company thinking of expanding I would be sending these guys letter asking them to send them a resume. No pilots, AME's, ect...= no Skyward. One less company sitting around the table looking to have a piece of an increasingly smaller pie. Go teamster on them.
As winter roads deteriate the nothern communities that rely on the services of Skyward are rightfully getting a little nervous. I hope that Transport Canada has some idea as to what they will do for these tax payers, you know, the ones that pay their wages. But hey, what do I know, I am but a lowly paramedic sitting very much on the outside looking in and I am probably way out of line.
Some blame transport canada but from my perspective the bottom line is if their were nothing wrong with the way this company ran it's business, they would still be flying. We are not privy to what has transpired between company CEO, management and Transport so anything that might be said is speculation.
If I were a company thinking of expanding I would be sending these guys letter asking them to send them a resume. No pilots, AME's, ect...= no Skyward. One less company sitting around the table looking to have a piece of an increasingly smaller pie. Go teamster on them.
As winter roads deteriate the nothern communities that rely on the services of Skyward are rightfully getting a little nervous. I hope that Transport Canada has some idea as to what they will do for these tax payers, you know, the ones that pay their wages. But hey, what do I know, I am but a lowly paramedic sitting very much on the outside looking in and I am probably way out of line.
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I think there are enough pilots sitting around that they are not gonna be stuck, if they start up again... And TC knows there are lots of other companies around willing to take up the slack if they don't start up again. Just one less competitor around. We are the only ones who suffer, just means fuller planes flying around with less pilots getting paid. 
Hindsight is 20/20!!!!
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still kickin
Skyward is still alive and we are all giving it our best to get in the air
Time to go: Listen to your nick man, it is time for you to go. The company is bullshitting you.
FB had to step down.
PT, TC left.
GM trying to leave.
Transport not even close to giving the OC back.
AMO gone. Flightcraft is peicing together the remaining fleet. NOT TO GET THE OC BACK, so that GP and LP can sell the machines. The company is being stripped down and sold peice by peice. The owners are trying to salvage what they can to line their pockets.
The only effort to get the OC back is because then the name and OC can be sold. GP will be building a mission in some 3rd world country and that'll be that.
FB had to step down.
PT, TC left.
GM trying to leave.
Transport not even close to giving the OC back.
AMO gone. Flightcraft is peicing together the remaining fleet. NOT TO GET THE OC BACK, so that GP and LP can sell the machines. The company is being stripped down and sold peice by peice. The owners are trying to salvage what they can to line their pockets.
The only effort to get the OC back is because then the name and OC can be sold. GP will be building a mission in some 3rd world country and that'll be that.
I have been reading this site for well over a year now and I have never felt a need to reply to a post until now.
Wiseone, I would just like to know if you have been in all the closed door meetings that have been going because you sure seem to think you know what is happening? A very wise person once said tell one person something and in less that 24 hours it will be totaly different.
Unless you have been in the TC meetings or in the director meeting I really do not think you can say with any certainly what is going on or what is in any one persons mind. If the company was just buying time to line the owner's pockets why would they have spent millions of dollars over the past 46 days to get the OC back. I can tell you from past experience that there is almost no market or dollar value for a OC in Canada.
Wiseone why would any other company or person take on a OC that has a history with TC?
Wiseone, I would just like to know if you have been in all the closed door meetings that have been going because you sure seem to think you know what is happening? A very wise person once said tell one person something and in less that 24 hours it will be totaly different.
Unless you have been in the TC meetings or in the director meeting I really do not think you can say with any certainly what is going on or what is in any one persons mind. If the company was just buying time to line the owner's pockets why would they have spent millions of dollars over the past 46 days to get the OC back. I can tell you from past experience that there is almost no market or dollar value for a OC in Canada.
Wiseone why would any other company or person take on a OC that has a history with TC?
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Seems to be a lot of info from someone at Skyward (still employed?)--
If they were such a terrible airline--can someone explain why they didn't have as many problems as some of the other airlines still flying--wonder what is really going on here--something just isn't right--any real ideas out there?
Skyward will fly again!!!!!
If they were such a terrible airline--can someone explain why they didn't have as many problems as some of the other airlines still flying--wonder what is really going on here--something just isn't right--any real ideas out there?
Skyward will fly again!!!!!
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centerstored
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Yeah, but that 80% was government money for providing a service - medical travel and medevacs, same as Perimeter.
Big difference from the handout/bailout they are looking for now.
If Skyward deserves it, so does every other airline that services the north in Canada.
Big difference from the handout/bailout they are looking for now.
If Skyward deserves it, so does every other airline that services the north in Canada.
"The South will boogie again."
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Northern Flyer
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I agree, I think that all of canada would be in a bit of an uproar if the government bailed out Skyward when there are other airlines lined up to take over the government work.
You guys at Perimeter must be getting a little tired out though, if you are anything like us you have been flying your bags off. Any plans on putting a few extra aircraft in YTH?
You guys at Perimeter must be getting a little tired out though, if you are anything like us you have been flying your bags off. Any plans on putting a few extra aircraft in YTH?
Big things in the works!Northern Flyer wrote:I agree, I think that all of canada would be in a bit of an uproar if the government bailed out Skyward when there are other airlines lined up to take over the government work.
You guys at Perimeter must be getting a little tired out though, if you are anything like us you have been flying your bags off. Any plans on putting a few extra aircraft in YTH?
We are all flying our bags off, it is good though - sked guys are paid by the mile.
Hiring 4 new FOs this month with more probably next month. YTH base expansion, MORE new (to us) airplanes.
Exciting times at Perimeter.
Unfortunately it's at the expense of another company.
"The South will boogie again."
