The Bum is dead!!!!

[azimuthaviation]

<<<Maybe even, who knows, the American people will realise that they have a president who not despite being black and from muslim lineage but rather BECAUSE he is black and from muslim lineage>>>

I wish people would stop calling him black. He is half white which makes him bi-racial.

One drop rule

[Siddley Hawker]

EDITED. Slur.

[The Old Fogducker]

EDITED. Slur.

[niss]

There is NO sea there to give him a burial,

And then he was going to throw Bin Laden into the sea, and I was like "Dude, you have no sea!"

[razorblade]

It just seems a little sketchy for them to storm in, kill the guy, and very conveniently dispose off the body and make sure no one finds it.

Not that I praise Osama for what he did, but I am slightly anti-US policies on most days, and I think that they're just announcing it to make the people happy. It's been 10 years with no results, it's time to give the people some hope, make them feel like all those crappy new Patriot laws and the inconvinient security checks, weren't put in place for no reason. It's the "Illusion of security".
I honestly wouldn't be surprised if we see a new Osama "I'm doing great here in my cave!" video surface soon.

PS: No bashing please. Just my opinion, and that's all this is.

[Crusty]

Am I taking crazy pills? Why does everyone here seem to have a problem with this? This man didn't rob a bank, he orchestrated an attack that killed thousands of people. Not just the towers and the Pentagon either and flight 91 but the original WTC bombing, the USS Cole and several embassys. You know what else? He founded a terrorist group which now has several independant autonomous divisions that are destabilizing the world. The way some of you are going on if they had taken him alive you'd be upset that he was denied bail.

Yes, it is good to bring to justice , one that is obviously a murderer, HOWEVER, doesnt the american system of law require a court proceeding with evidence sufficient to convict this man ? We all know about gitmo and rendition flights and covert CIA activities that circumvent law and the rights of ALL citizens worldwide ,,,,but thats another story isnt it ?

Not to pick on this poster, but this post seems to be full of contradictions. Generally speaking, the statement that someone is "obviously a murderer" implies that you've seen the evidence and believe it. You may have said this because you have seen the evidence. Anyone who has television or internet has seen the evidence. Bin Laden released several video tapes proclaiming his responsibility for and involvement in the 9/11 attacks. He also praised the people who carried them out and vowed to do more. Is anyone really questioning this?

As for busting into his house and shooting him, there are a few things I have to say about that. One, this did NOT take place in Canada. This was in Pakistan, a country which has a recent history of being rather uncooperative with the war on terrorism. This is also a country that most likely knew that something odd was going on in the mansion guarded by several armed people but built and owned by a peasant courier. Second, on the issue of busting into his house, what would you have done? Knocked on the door and asked him to come outside? Third, shooting him. I have no problem with that. Even in Canada if the police come to your house and you shoot at them, they will shoot back and they might hit you in the head.

Finally, before anyone responds to this let me tell you that I am no right wing zealot. I am center to left in my view on the world. I'm not going to sit here and defend all U.S. foreign policy. I was outraged by the invasion of Iraq and I thought the killing of Saddam and sons was all handled very poorly. However, I am 100% behind the Bin Laden action. I give Obama praise and I think this is the most clear cut case of right vs. wrong since World War 2. Well done SEALs.

Rant over.

[grimey]

It just seems a little sketchy for them to storm in, kill the guy, and very conveniently dispose off the body and make sure no one finds it.

Not that I praise Osama for what he did, but I am slightly anti-US policies on most days, and I think that they're just announcing it to make the people happy. It's been 10 years with no results, it's time to give the people some hope, make them feel like all those crappy new Patriot laws and the inconvinient security checks, weren't put in place for no reason. It's the "Illusion of security".
I honestly wouldn't be surprised if we see a new Osama "I'm doing great here in my cave!" video surface soon.

PS: No bashing please. Just my opinion, and that's all this is.

They didn't just kill one guy. They got one of his wives, a son, and two of his brothers apparently, and probably more than a few guards.

http://www.vancouversun.com/news/Osama+ ... story.html

The families of British victims of al-Qaida also expressed their relief at his death. Also killed in the raid, alongside bin Laden's wife, understood to be his youngest spouse, Amal al-Sadeh, 27, were the terror leader's son Khalid, 22, and two brothers who acted as his "couriers". Bin Laden had been shot several times.

But yea, I understand everyone being a bit uncomfortable with how convenient it is that they got him, and disposed of his body within hours, without publishing much of any evidence to that fact. I still think they got him, if only because there was no real need to make this shit up right now, and it'll be embarrassing as hell if they're faking it and a legitimate video pops up next week with him laughing and saying sorry guys, but that was my stunt double.

[rjonno]

Glad to see you support the concept.

Or would you rather hold a BBQ for terrorists and invite them for tea and cake?

Oh I see, 'if you're not with us then you're with the terrorists'

If anyone on this earth could be called deserving of a 5.56MM slug to the cerebral cortex it's this guy, he got that, move on...

Nobody deserves that. There is a reason that in most civilized nations, capital punishment is no longer an accepted form of justice. An eye for an eye?

I wonder how long it will be before these self-righteous types are switching out their Che Guevera berets and T shirts for one paying homage to Bin Laden ... making him look like he's just finished pouring a bowl of cream for a kitten.

Are you seriously comparing Bin Laden to Che Guevera? The simple fact that middle class hipsters wear shirts with Che doesn't make him a terrorist. In fact, whether you agree with Che's politics or not, he was supported by the majority of the populations he attempting to liberate, and was eventually murdered by an oppressive regime. Bin Laden by no means enjoyed the support of the population he attempted to 'liberate' and was a violent terrorist rather than an empathetic revolutionary.

Ranks up there with the picture of Hitler patting a little girl on the head.

Bin Laden was undeniably guilty of murder and represented a very violent fringe organization. However, he was not responsible for 'racially' singling out and exterminating ~12 million people. Suggesting otherwise desensitizes us to the real meaning of "genocide" and is dangerous thinking.

[The Old Fogducker]

Your Honour, I will rephrase ....

I wonder how long it will be before we see our first "Progressive" trading in his/her Che Guevera T shirt and beret for one depicting Bin Laden as a kindly gentleman who has just picked up an AK47 after having finished pouring a bowl of cream for a kitten?

The Old Fogducker

[rjonno]

Progressives are not Bin Laden Fans.
you are referring to middle class hipsters who use t-shirts to stir the pot and get attention.
Crusty old bigoted conservatives love to use the blanket term 'progressives' to refer to everyone they hate, from hipsters to homosexuals.

[iflyforpie]

I give Obama praise and I think this is the most clear cut case of right vs. wrong since World War 2.

You've been watching too many Hollywood movies!


Germany was the bad guy because they invaded Poland.... hmmm..... who carved up the other half with Germany on the first day of the war and kept it post-war? That's right, our allies the Soviet Union! Who killed millions of people based on race or religion? Again, both Germany and our ally the Soviet Union. Who burned civilian populaces with incendiaries and nuclear weapons? Germany did a bit of the former, but hundreds of thousands of civilians were killed by Bomber Command in Europe and the 20th Air Force in Japan--including the only aggressive use of nuclear weapons in the history of mankind. Who sunk hundreds of thousands of tons of civilian shipping through unrestricted submarine warfare? The Kreigsmarine did a fair bit, but nothing compared to the US Navy against the Japanese Merchant Marine. They were going to bring Karl Donitz in for war crimes... until it was realized the US Navy did the exact same thing he did.


I'm not a left-wing nutjob either and I am glad they took this guy down. But don't kid yourself about right and wrong as far as war is concerned because it is only that simple in Star Wars. One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

[Cat Driver]

Crusty old bigoted conservatives love to use the blanket term 'progressives' to refer to everyone they hate, from hipsters to homosexuals.

I just love it when people use labels to attack anyone who they disagree with.

So tell me what you think of my opinion rjonno, I did three tours in Saudi Arabia and observed how Bin Ladens belief system works in the wahhabi sect of Islam.

Suffice to say I fear that mindset.

Does that make me a bigot?

[Indanao]

...now that they found Osama Bin Laden, I wonder if they can find the Sedin twins ?

[rjonno]

What you wrote there resembles an informed comment. If you had made a statement analogous to OFD's like, for example, "everyone who is a member of Islam is just a nutter and i fear their mindset" then I would be more inclined to make the assumption that you are a bigot.

I am not a defender of radical Islam but rather a defender of rational, empathetic, reasonable thought.

[. ._]

After thinking about it, I wanna see a body. I wanna see video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLQfRNC6 ... ideo_title

[Crusty]

But don't kid yourself about right and wrong as far as war is concerned because it is only that simple in Star Wars.

Hey I wasn't stating absolutes, just where I feel this falls on a relative scale. I'm quite familiar with ww2 history and the transgressions of our allies. I just got fed up with all these people talking about Bin Laden like he's Robin Hood.

I do enjoy a good hollywood movie though, you got me there. It would have been a lot cooler if they got Bin Laden by blowing up his deathstar.

[Cat Driver]

Some years ago my wife and I visited Auschwitz and Birkenau, it is an experience one never really comes to grips with.

As to the death sentence being acceptable in our society, that is a difficult one, for instance how about Clifford Olsen.

Letting him live in this society gives him the ability to keep torturing the families of the children he killed every time he applies for a parole.

I say kill him.

[iflyforpie]

Some years ago my wife and I visited Auschwitz and Birkenau, it is an experience one never really comes to grips with.

As to the death sentence being acceptable in our society, that is a difficult one, for instance how about Clifford Olsen.

Letting him live in this society gives him the ability to keep torturing the families of the children he killed every time he applies for a parole.

I say kill him.

When I see what our worst criminals get compared to our senior citizens, it really does make me want the death penalty to be reinstated. Some of the extended-care residents my wife works with have to legally divorce their significant other so the government doesn't take all but a pittance of their partner's money to support them. A poster on the wall there soberly suggests they shoot a local politician so they can go to jail and receive free room and board, free entertainment and activities, free treatments, and free medication.

[Beefitarian]

Some years ago my wife and I visited Auschwitz and Birkenau, it is an experience one never really comes to grips with.

As to the death sentence being acceptable in our society, that is a difficult one, for instance how about Clifford Olsen.

Letting him live in this society gives him the ability to keep torturing the families of the children he killed every time he applies for a parole.

I say kill him.

When I see what our worst criminals get compared to our senior citizens, it really does make me want the death penalty to be reinstated. Some of the extended-care residents my wife works with have to legally divorce their significant other so the government doesn't take all but a pittance of their partner's money to support them. A poster on the wall there soberly suggests they shoot a local politician so they can go to jail and receive free room and board, free entertainment and activities, free treatments, and free medication.

Add to that the ones that get out and harm or kill more innocent people. I don't understand why anyone would be ok with that just to seem nice.

The death penalty might not be a deterent but it prevents second offense.

[dashx]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLFIxt2c ... ure=fvwrel

[ScudRunner]

I think Islamabad is headed for a housing bubble crisis.





Seriously this is a "million dollar mansion" in a suburb of Islamabad? you could get a better deal in a Vancouver Suburb!

[Brewguy]

Yes, but few suburban Vancouver houses are built of steel-reinforced concrete with 10 foot + high walls at the property line.

I personally think he should have bought something like the Diefenbunker!

Edit: Or perhaps 'The Hole': http://www.nugget.ca/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=2826219
... nobody would have been looking for him in North Bay.

[JakeYYZ]

Obama really does hate rich people! Bin Laden moves up from a cave to a mansion and Barack wacks him.

[bizjets101]

Taiwan animated recreation of the raid on the Osama compound.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=173_1304363717

[Dash-Ate]

Who will collect his CIA pension check?
Never forget, war is a business.




http://www.moneyteachers.org/Osama+Bin+ ... ormons.htm


Osama Bin Laden's family were business partners with the Bushes:


"The Bin Laden Group (Fahd Al-Rasheed, CEO, Emaar.E.C and Omar Bin Laden, Chairman, Saudi Bin Laden Group, on right) is a multinational construction conglomerate and holding company for the assets owned by the bin Laden family. It was founded in 1950 by Sheikh Mohammed bin Laden, father of the terrorist mastermind Osama bin Laden."


"Osama bin Laden worked briefly in his family business and is reported to have inherited as much as $50 million from his father in cash and stock. The Saudi Binladen Group has invested in the Carlyle Group, a global private equity investment firm to which former President George H.W. Bush served as adviser. Former President George W. Bush sat on the board." (Source)




The Carlyle Group, with the Bin Ladens on board, has made significant financial contributions to many of the members of Congress. (Source) The company's lobbying activities were extensive in the few years leading up to 911 and the destruction of the World Trade Towers. (Source)