Flying while suspended for Impaired

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Re: Flying while suspended for Impaired

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flyboy14914 wrote: Tue Apr 13, 2021 8:56 pm Another subtle consideration... an impaired driving conviction is a criminal code conviction. If you have a DUI conviction you will never get past the criminal record check to get your RAIC which every commercial pilot will require...
That quote is wrong. A DUI conviction will NOT prevent you from holding a RAIC.
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Re: Flying while suspended for Impaired

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flyboy14914 wrote: Tue Apr 13, 2021 8:56 pm Another subtle consideration... an impaired driving conviction is a criminal code conviction. If you have a DUI conviction you will never get past the criminal record check to get your RAIC which every commercial pilot will require...
Fact Check: DUI will not prevent obtaining a RAIC.

https://tc.canada.ca/en/programs/non-fu ... -standards

II.35 Cancellation or Refusal

1) The Advisory Body may recommend to the Minister the cancellation, refusal or upholding of a suspension of a security clearance to any individual if the Advisory Body has determined that the individual’s presence in the restricted area of a listed airport would be inconsistent with the aim and objective of this Program.
2) In making the determination referred to in subsection (1), the Advisory Body may consider any factor that is relevant, including whether the individual:
a) has been convicted or otherwise found guilty in Canada or elsewhere of an offence including, but not limited to:
any indictable offence punishable by imprisonment for more then 10 years,
trafficking, possession for the purpose of trafficking or exporting or importing under the Controlled Drugs and Substances Act,
any offences contained in Part VII of the Criminal Code - Disorderly Houses, Gaming and Betting,
any contravention of a provision set out in section 160 of the Customs Act,
any offences under the Security Of Information Act; or
any offences under Part III of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act;
b) is likely to become involved in activities directed toward or in support of the threat or use of acts of serious violence against property or persons.
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Re: Flying while suspended for Impaired

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tsgarp wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 8:34 am
Dh8Classic wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 12:36 am
Needswork2020 wrote: Tue Apr 13, 2021 5:08 pm Shutting someone out for a past indiscretion is silly and doesn't show a very well-developed failure model.
Wow, A330 and A321. I wonder what airline flies those aircraft with furloughed pilots.

I remember one airline that hired a convicted drug runn er. He ended up getting an award for ‘heroic action’ at the airline and has written a book.

I’m sure these guys met some sort of important hiring requirement by whatever airline it is, while others didn’t make the grade.

N’est ce pas?
I think we might want to read the entire narrative about the Azores glider before we start heaping praise on anyone’s judgement.
It wasn't meant to be praise. They hired a convicted felon, perhaps because he was from the local province(and no doubt had the most qualified flying background), and then he went out and didn't follow the procedures as written and nearly killed everyone. It could have destroyed the company based on the media coverage at the time(until 9/11 diverted attention). Did they learn any lessons from that.

N'est ce pas?
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Re: Flying while suspended for Impaired

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Dh8Classic wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 10:12 am
tsgarp wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 8:34 am
Dh8Classic wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 12:36 am

Wow, A330 and A321. I wonder what airline flies those aircraft with furloughed pilots.

I remember one airline that hired a convicted drug runn er. He ended up getting an award for ‘heroic action’ at the airline and has written a book.

I’m sure these guys met some sort of important hiring requirement by whatever airline it is, while others didn’t make the grade.

N’est ce pas?
I think we might want to read the entire narrative about the Azores glider before we start heaping praise on anyone’s judgement.
It wasn't meant to be praise. They hired a convicted felon, perhaps because he was from the local province(and no doubt had the most qualified flying background), and then he went out and didn't follow the procedures as written and nearly killed everyone. It could have destroyed the company based on the media coverage at the time(until 9/11 diverted attention). Did they learn any lessons from that.

N'est ce pas?
And he was absolutely horrible to fly with. Considered himself a Aviation God.
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Re: Flying while suspended for Impaired

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This thread is ridiculous. Not only is it like an out-of-body experience trying to read the totally different subjects revived after a decade, the sanctimony is really something. Good people make mistakes. It's how you come back from them after paying the price that shows your character.

Anyways, why not put this one back to bed again where it was in 2012. It was only revived my someone who seemed to have an axe to grind.
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Re: Flying while suspended for Impaired

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Dh8Classic wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 10:12 am
tsgarp wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 8:34 am
Dh8Classic wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 12:36 am

Wow, A330 and A321. I wonder what airline flies those aircraft with furloughed pilots.

I remember one airline that hired a convicted drug runn er. He ended up getting an award for ‘heroic action’ at the airline and has written a book.

I’m sure these guys met some sort of important hiring requirement by whatever airline it is, while others didn’t make the grade.

N’est ce pas?
I think we might want to read the entire narrative about the Azores glider before we start heaping praise on anyone’s judgement.
It wasn't meant to be praise. They hired a convicted felon, perhaps because he was from the local province(and no doubt had the most qualified flying background), and then he went out and didn't follow the procedures as written and nearly killed everyone. It could have destroyed the company based on the media coverage at the time(until 9/11 diverted attention). Did they learn any lessons from that.

N'est ce pas?
My mistake, I misunderstood your intent.
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