Air Canada interview !!!!

LANDGREEN · Post by **LANDGREEN** » Sun Jul 17, 2005 7:42 am

I saw the class in Flight Ops training centre the other day and can say most look around late 20's or 30 with exception of one chap that looked mid 30's.

Jet Dog · Post by **Jet Dog** » Sun Jul 17, 2005 7:45 am

instead of hiring based on age, why not hire based on qualifications?

gelbisch · Post by **gelbisch** » Sun Jul 17, 2005 7:59 am

*Never mind.

gelbisch · Post by **gelbisch** » Sun Jul 17, 2005 8:00 am

Just to confirm... for those of you with pending interviews, were any of you NOT in the pool already? I'm assuming with 2-3000 hours the answer must be no. Just wondering if AC is, in fact, looking outside the pool now.

Thanks!

circlingfor69 · Post by **circlingfor69** » Sun Jul 17, 2005 8:47 am

Yes, AC is interviewing people outside of the pool.

Bede · Post by **Bede** » Sun Jul 17, 2005 9:26 am

In regards to age, have any of you put your DOB on your resume? Do they just assume that because you have low time you are young?

captainkangaroo · Post by **captainkangaroo** » Sun Jul 17, 2005 10:37 am

Yes I had my DOB on my CV, but they can figure it out by the dates you graduated high school or University/College which I assume are on the majority of the CV's out there.

loopy · Post by **loopy** » Sun Jul 17, 2005 10:39 am

I don't recall the application asking for a DOB. Having said that, if they have you license number, can't they check a database or something at TC and see your DOB?

captainkangaroo · Post by **captainkangaroo** » Sun Jul 17, 2005 10:45 am

The application did not ask for a DOB, they are not allowed due to the fact it is a human rights issue, just as they are not allowed to ask if you are married or what religion you follow. But as I said they can figure it out pretty easy from the chronology of your education.

gelbisch · Post by **gelbisch** » Sun Jul 17, 2005 10:57 am

I put my DOB on anyway... can't hurt.

Premium · Post by **Premium** » Sun Jul 17, 2005 12:07 pm

OK, so what are the ages of those getting interviews?

Another thing to remember...just because a candidate is called for an interview does not mean they are a shoe-in for the job. I don't want to be negative, but for those of you who are a little upset you haven't been called....have some patience....I'd say more than 50-75% of those who are inteviewed will not be accepted. Maybe they will fail the medical (a big one), maybe they'll have a tough sim ride....etc. This hiring phase will most likely be an extensive one and AC will soon find out they are short of qualified candidates that can meet all the job requirments and pass the interview stage. All I can suggest is keep your head up and continue to prepare for an interview because you will get called....maybe not this month but in 3 or 4 months....or 10 months....or 15 months.

RB-211 · Post by **RB-211** » Sun Jul 17, 2005 12:25 pm

Premium you hit the nail on the head. Not everyone can get the call at once! Your comment about a certain failure rate amongst candidates is a given. AC's hiring process has changed and is similar to other large airlines worldwide. Cathay, Emirates and BA come to mind. BA is taking a solid 20 a month and have been for quite some time. 1 in 5 get the job. The success rate at Cathay is lower. I am not trying to say it will be the same at AC but make sure you are prepared for your chance! Cog tests are no big deal but from my experience I would suggest getting my hands on some reading material about them. If you have not seen them before they can throw you. This is where many fail at BA and for no other reason that they are not ready....

Good luck all.

Jaques Strappe · Post by **Jaques Strappe** » Sun Jul 17, 2005 3:01 pm

Bede wrote:Do you know if these guys had lots of heavier TP time (above 12500)? Is heavy time, EFIS, airline time that important> I'm kind of thinking what to do next. I have no heavy time but lots of multiPIC in MU2. Get 12500 time or stay??

Bede

I was chatting with one of the new hires during a break and he indicated to me that about 8 of them were from CMA. This one particular guy would have been about 30 yrs old. No jet, heavy, or glass experience at all! Really nice guy though!

BTW
I loved the MU2. Have 2500 hrs in them. Didn't like the ice much!

gelbisch · Post by **gelbisch** » Sun Jul 17, 2005 3:36 pm

Well, I'm usually the last one to be positive

but I guess that the thing to remember is at least they're hiring at all! AC hiring positively affects the entire industry... whether they call you individually or not...

Bede · Post by **Bede** » Sun Jul 17, 2005 3:46 pm

Premium,
One of the best posts in a while.

Gelbisch,
By reading some of the posts on this site, I would have thought that with your relatives there, AC would be waiting for you to get your 1000 hrs, and then you'd get straight onto the RS of the '67. No luck?

Jaques,
Thanks for the info. I used to know quite a few guys at CMA. They seem to be a shoe in everywhere. First it was AC, then when WJ started, all the guys went there, and now all of them will go to AC again. Seems like the place to be for a low timer. It's also nice to hear from someone who loves the MU2 as well. It is a cool plane, but if I stay here much longer I'll end up failing the AC medical because I'll be deaf.

gelbisch · Post by **gelbisch** » Sun Jul 17, 2005 3:56 pm

*Never mind.

orlando-pilot · Post by **orlando-pilot** » Sun Jul 17, 2005 9:22 pm

Hi All,

Visit this site:

http://www.aviationinterviews.com

You can register for free under the "pilot" section on the left menu bar. It is very popular in the US. The site compiles interview feedback. I will be posting my feedback there after my interview. Feedback is divided up by airline and the site notifies you every time there is new info posted for your airlines of choice. The more people that participate, the better off we all are.

There is currently only one recent AC post (I believe for Jazz).

Please pass the word on.

abc xyz · Post by **abc xyz** » Sun Jul 17, 2005 9:33 pm

In all honestly, though, I don't think having Pops at Big Red really means much anymore... especially with the third-party interviewing. I've heard that there was a time when having your father at AC would actually hurt your chances, and it seems to me like things might be once more headed in that direction...

My dad is a AC pilot and mom is a retired flt attendant. Dont think it will help me one bit. Not saying it should mean a garaunteed seat but usually if your parents are in the airline biz u get to know a lot of folks and you build up a repore with these people. Better to hire someone u know than a mystery player. Just my 2 cents. Same goes for any business. Sent in my 1st resume today to AC got the time they want, a degree so the waiting game begins i guess.

For those who get the call best of luck

Cheers All

PS my dads seniority of 1973 should be allowed to be passed on to me.

gelbisch · Post by **gelbisch** » Sun Jul 17, 2005 10:05 pm

*Never mind.

captainkangaroo · Post by **captainkangaroo** » Sun Jul 17, 2005 10:23 pm

You only started applying today?

abc xyz · Post by **abc xyz** » Sun Jul 17, 2005 10:41 pm

captainkangaroo wrote:You only started applying today?

yeah i was a bit naive thinking i would need a PPC on the shuttle and 10k hours to be considered so i held off a bit. got an excellant job now so not much pressure on me. just fired one off and see what kind of response i get. im expecting the interview call at 9am sharp tomorrow! and a course date starting next Tuesday. I hear they need 777 Captains

Billy Bob1 · Post by **Billy Bob1** » Sun Jul 17, 2005 10:52 pm

Yeah Im know a few guys who have interviews? Two of them have /had fathers flying for Air Canada and are somewhat low time. I also know of one guy with PC-12 f/o time going for an interview? It sure sucks to be in the 4000-5000 hour range with multi-pic time.

prop2jet · Post by **prop2jet** » Mon Jul 18, 2005 8:01 am

Nothing like hiring virgins... that way you can have your way with them and they will take it... just because they are fat dumb and happy sitting at AC.

There is more to aviation than working at AC, granted it would be a sweet job, however as I am certain all you AC types can attest to, the pay and conditions by comparison to other international airlines is sub standard when you consider the value of the Canadian dollar.

To the lucky ones that are getting called with 2000 hrs, that is great for you, for those of us who paid our dues... well what can I say... we can all go work for peanuts where the 2000 hr types were, hold out for something else, wait for AC to call (and by the way, if you wait too long you will probably be one of the first to get laid off the next time around) or go overseas!

I think I will come back as a lawyer in my next life!

Red1 · Post by **Red1** » Mon Jul 18, 2005 8:02 am

Patience you must have. Only the beginning is this

orlando-pilot · Post by **orlando-pilot** » Mon Jul 18, 2005 8:31 am

For those who were asking, here is an article re: Cogscreen and it includes some sample questions:

http://www.defence.gov.au/dpe/dhs/infoc ... _29-36.pdf