Ice Pilots Back

[kevind]

I have a dream of being a package delivery specialist. If I apply to a northern package delivery company will I have to do my time flying their old ice covered ice planes so I can move up to the package business? My goal is to drive for UPS at a big city.

[Oxi]

Anybody last night episode. Blistering winds and ice. Joe takes off. Is that legal?

I guess i'm a chicken pilot I would have stayed o the ground, freezing ice and snow?

Also poor rampie, the wolves are out. Great camaraderie in aviation now

Ah yes the freezing ice? Seems like the critical surfaces were clean!

That rampie from Ottawa was certainly a piece of work, surprised he bother to give 2 weeks after saying he will "stick it out"

[oldyellr]

I wonder how much of Ice Pilots is contrived, like a bad reality show. This guy watches Ice Pilots on TV in Toronto, then applies at Buffalo to fly the old planes because it would be cool. Then he antagonizes the other rampies to the point where they gang up on him. If this is how season 6 is gonna go, they should have ended it with 5.

[POPANDCHIPS]

Anybody last night episode. Blistering winds and ice. Joe takes off. Is that legal?

I guess i'm a chicken pilot I would have stayed o the ground, freezing ice and snow?

Also poor rampie, the wolves are out. Great camaraderie in aviation now

If you are a commercial pilot and wouldn't fly in those conditions with a clean airplane (critical surfaces) then yes, you could be a chicken, or just not cut out for winter flying in Canada.

It is always a very smart decision to fly within your abilities, but regardless of the airline you fly for, shitty weather is a given. Bad weather should eventually be within your abilities.

[wan2fly99]

Was there not ice and snow still coming down? How long does de-ice fluid last? Then what?

Was strange on ramp you blown snow and snow coming down. Taking away didn't see anything.

Then when they landed had ice on place all over.

What about if they lost an engine?

Never been in those situation, that is why would love to fly first with experience pilots who have done and learn first

[complexintentions]

Lots of streaming links here, you'll have to deal with some pop up ads though

http://www.free-tv-video-online.me/inte ... son_6.html

Thanks Duffman, I did end up watching a streaming feed. Weird that it isn't around as a file, even for a niche show there's usually a dedicated following who upload a copy.

wan2fly99,

There's nothing inherently unsafe about cold wx operations, you just have to respect the limitations of the aircraft and the deicing procedures. I have a feeling that some of your confusion about what you see is due to the editing of the show, which ultimately IS just a tv show.

[Edo]

...... It doesn't matter if it's able to earn revenue so long as everyone can see that it belongs to Buffalo, just like Mikey wearing nothing but Buffalo Air Wear during his press conference; he was trying to explain a major safety issue and allay fears about it being a rinky-dink operation, but instead of trying to look professional he wore a hoody and baseball hat with more Buffalo logos on them. It's about marketing and branding, and they also happen to operate some airplanes.

In the first season Mikey it was specified in the contracted that Mikey would always wear the hoodie. They even had his wearing it at the premiere.

[teacher]

I Try not to make comments about Ice Pilots too much because a lot can be inaccurate due to creative editing. However, one must wonder how much all that ice weighed ON The fuselage regardless of the critical surfaces being clean. Or on another note, what kind of hold over time was being used for mopping type 1 onto a wing with precipitation coming down with that kind of low temperatures. Type 1 has a limited hold over time especially in that kind of cold and of course, precip sticks to it and dilutes it quickly which than makes it refreeze.

Maybe I'm over thinking it?

[Meatservo]

Of course you're talking about a wing that was over-designed to lift 25,000 pounds or so at a speed range between maybe 150 knots and 70 knots, probably some derivative or other of a "Clark Y" airfoil with nothing more than split flaps. Talking strictly out of my arse, a few snowflakes aren't going to do much to it. I am quite sure some of those pilots know what they're doing.

I know this isn't the correct attitude, and I apologize for taking the risk of poisoning young peoples' minds with my terrible attitude.

[Lindsey]

I dunno why I keep watching this show when I run into it. It just makes me mad. Do they live in an alternate universe? Why would they get mad when a pilot gets frustrated at not getting into the cockpit? Don't they realise that's why they're all there and why they all quit when they don't get it after months and months?

[7ECA]

The producers seem to be using even more creative editing these days...

Joe waiting/boarding the sched, which at one point was GPNR, then a different aircraft, then another, and then back to "Summer Wages" taxiing out.

I don't pay a whole hell of a lot of attention to the commentary, or to some of the statements made, because you can almost guarantee that the film crew interviewed a bunch of the pilots and asked them about X, then cut up all of the interviews until they found just the right wording to make something sound more exciting or dangerous, and then voila TV magic.

[Cat Driver]

At Austin Airways we solved the contaminated wing problem on the DC3's by putting wing covers on the wings when we were not flying.

And once winter sets in not much snow sticks to the wings at thirty below.

[Illya Kuryakin]

Haven't been able to sit through an entire episode yet. Not about to start now. Total crap TV!
Illya

[NWONT]

Well Illya, that's your choice but you don't need to thumb your nose at those that enjoy the show. I think the show is "Fairly" realistic but they just edited out all the day to day boring shit and just keep the arsetighteners. They could have easily made this show about outfits I worked for and it would have been even better.

[POPANDCHIPS]

Haven't been able to sit through an entire episode yet. Not about to start now. Total crap TV!
Illya

Doc won't be happy until every man, woman and child are flying a King Air in Ontario (with the gear down and no training bond)

[Meatservo]

I'm just waiting until "OW, MY BALLS!" comes out on DVD. I don't want to watch it on TV because I hate cliff-hangers.

[CYWL]

Where is Justin working now?

[Duffman]

I'm not 100% on this but I think he owns Landa Aviation out of Hay River

[iflyforpie]

Haven't been able to sit through an entire episode yet. Not about to start now. Total crap TV!
Illya

I sat through one or two... never even looked at anything from season two onwards....

[pdw]

I think the show is "Fairly" realistic but they just edited out all the day to day boring shit and just keep the arsetighteners.

Yeah, keeping it profitable in quenching the thirst our general public has for the more exciting aviation activity. There is suspense in making it 'just under the wire', and portraying this 'real anxiety' translates into favorable ratings. Maintains viewer interest, sort of like the actual airshows did years ago ... attracting those huge crowds.

[Pop n Fresh]

Lighten up folks. Do most of you hate Star Wars because the X-wing fighters flew funny?

Sure I hate it when film makers edit airplane stuff or outright screw it up but it certainly beats not watching stuff with airplanes.

I'm just waiting until "OW, MY BALLS!" comes out on DVD. I don't want to watch it on TV because I hate cliff-hangers.

Oh man, you missed the guy sweeping the snow off a wing and... Wait I forget which show we're talking about now.

So what if they had some other vineyard produce Duck Commander wine. Just laugh and enjoy the show Jack.

[co-joe]

Is it really that hard to jump onto the wing of the 3? The brown dude had me in stitches trying. They're like "aim for the grip tape" but over and over again he aims for the slip and slide.

[CFR]

Lighten up folks. Do most of you hate Star Wars because the X-wing fighters flew funny?

Sure I hate it when film makers edit airplane stuff or outright screw it up but it certainly beats not watching stuff with airplanes.

I'm just waiting until "OW, MY BALLS!" comes out on DVD. I don't want to watch it on TV because I hate cliff-hangers.

Oh man, you missed the guy sweeping the snow off a wing and... Wait I forget which show we're talking about now.

So what if they had some other vineyard produce Duck Commander wine. Just laugh and enjoy the show Jack.

It depends on the show. I'm OK with Ice Pilots as I can internally edit out the stuff that doesn't quite fit. Sadly I couldn't do the same thing for Arctic Air. Maybe it's because one is loosely based on the real thing and the other was "we need some drama here ... make up some flying stuff .."

Recently started watching the World Wars on History channel, stopped after the part about the Battle of Britain when they used footage of B-17's!! Thousands of hours of film from the war and they couldn't get correct footage? In a show purporting to be historical fact, I get turned off with these kinds of mistakes and question the accuracy of the rest of their presentation.

Same with a CTV headline for a video clip from a few days ago "Who really killed Rommel?" where they identified a Canadian as the one who strafed Rommel's staff car. The reporter then states he died "later". Anyone who didn't know better would come away from that headline and article believing a Canadian "killed" Rommel.

Ice Pilots is entertainment, not meant to factually educate anyone!

[freakonature]

RIP Sophie.

[flyinthebug]

RIP Sophie.

We got to see Joe`s soft side last night. It was very sad to see Sophie go. Best episode in 6 seasons was last nights. We saw Joe hand over the accountable executive position to Rod and we saw Joe be human. It was a good show last night, and anyone who says they were not moved by Joe`s emotion over the loss of his dog is just not human. For a show that is 90% BS, this episode was moving and emotional. RIP Sophie. (I loved when Joe and Mike were talking about how many hours Sophie had in a DC3... 8,000-10,000 hours, wow.)