Westjet cabin incident, good thing it wasn't United or AC

[YYZSaabGuy]

I don't post on command, but this one was entertaining. http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/10/nyreg ... ndant.html

Sorry, but now I'm confused too. A JetBlue F/A who wigs out and deploys an emergency slide relates to your panicky Air Canada F/As how, exactly?

[Black_Tusk]

https://www.google.ca/search?q=air+cana ... +emergency

I don't see anything relevant ... help me out?

I don't post on command, but this one was entertaining.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/10/nyreg ... ndant.html

Look guys. You want to keep arguing / cheerleading AC is the safest, more courteous airline around, they don't have accidents even but hard landings, I can't help with your misconceptions.

It's not trolling to repeat exactly what AC said. I'm not a fan of "spin" and "PR". Black is black. White is white.

You have an accident. Call it as such, and pay up.

The trolling is happening by those who say the latest "incident" is also nothing, and that AC knows more than the FAA whose investigating.

Tell me, where is it that you work that is all sunshine and roses? Or are you flying in the right seat of a 206 somewhere up yonder as a "rookie pilot?"

[rookiepilot]

I'm just curious why an "accident" can't be called an "accident".

Anyone?

And I've asked this question repeatedly.

I don't get this.

If one wonders at my lack of respect, that's why.

I think AC should pay out, settle the passenger lawsuit, instead of suing Airbus, too.

It's called accountability.

[Black_Tusk]

Deflection, nice.

[Rupert_Pupkin]

I'm just curious why an "accident" can't be called an "accident".

Anyone?

Man who cares? We all know what happened. AC could call it a birthday cake and we all know what transpired.

[YYZSaabGuy]

It's called accountability.

Nice try, but no cigar. "Accountability" would be you either substantiating your unwarranted slag of 6,800 Air Canada flight attendants, or withdrawing the accusation and gracefully apologizing.
Not, based on your posting history, that I'm optimistic we'll see either reaction, but one lives in hope, right?
And no, I don't work for Air Canada or any of its subs, before you start throwing that out there.

[rookiepilot]

It's called accountability.

Nice try, but no cigar. "Accountability" would be you either substantiating your unwarranted slag of 6,800 Air Canada flight attendants, or withdrawing the accusation and gracefully apologizing.
Not, based on your posting history, that I'm optimistic we'll see either reaction, but one lives in hope, right?
And no, I don't work for Air Canada or any of its subs, before you start throwing that out there.

Then for clarity I remove the specific implication to "AC" when referring to FA's.

I apologize for any mis- characterization.

It's clear there have been incidents where some have gone batty like opening the doors, from different airlines.

Now YYZ, do you think AC should formally and publicly apologize to its passengers for the near disaster in YHZ, yes or no?

[confusedalot]

Singapore Airlines did after the aircraft lined up and took off on a closed runway for takeoff and resulted in numerous casualties. Went all over international news.
This does not condone the AC vitriol. Hey, never worked for them, (I quite frankly would not last a week with their attitudes LOL) but still, they're not that bad as a service.

[YYZSaabGuy]

It's called accountability.

Nice try, but no cigar. "Accountability" would be you either substantiating your unwarranted slag of 6,800 Air Canada flight attendants, or withdrawing the accusation and gracefully apologizing.
Not, based on your posting history, that I'm optimistic we'll see either reaction, but one lives in hope, right?
And no, I don't work for Air Canada or any of its subs, before you start throwing that out there.

Then for clarity I remove the specific implication to "AC" when referring to FA's.

I apologize for any mis- characterization.

It's clear there have been incidents where some have gone batty like opening the doors, from different airlines.

Now YYZ, do you think AC should formally and publicly apologize to its passengers for the near disaster in YHZ, yes or no?

Nope.

I take it as a given that the crew involved strongly regrets the accident. I suspect AC's staff, management, Board and shareholders also regret it. It benefited no one. And yes, I think we can all agree it was an accident, not an incident or a hard landing.

But talk is cheap: these days, companies apologize all the time. I'm not clear what purpose yet another knee-jerk, politically correct, sanitized corporate apology (no doubt word-smithed by a PR consultant or crisis advisory firm and reviewed by a dozen lawyers prior to release) would serve, no matter how sincere the underlying motivation. (That's not intended as a shot at your apology above, BTW).

The better approach, and the one being implemented, would be to review procedures, training and equipment to continuously de-risk the operation. You know: the standard industry response.

This accident won't stop me from flying AC, or any other major carrier. I'm guessing, based on loads and financial results, it's not stopping many other folks either.

[rookiepilot]

YYZ, Me either, on flying on major carriers, and in the scheme, AC is a very safe and reliable carrier.

Suppose correcting procedures is what matters most.

[YYZSaabGuy]

Suppose correcting procedures is what matters most.

+1.