WestJet at YHZ

pilotbzh · Post by **pilotbzh** » Sat Dec 31, 2005 6:26 am

I just hope the pilots will be covered by a good lawer...They probably would love beeing part of a union now.....

wingnutt · Post by **wingnutt** » Sat Dec 31, 2005 9:25 pm

It's O.K.... I heard that they were owners....

737 Mech · Post by **737 Mech** » Sat Dec 31, 2005 10:16 pm

Ouch!............good one

Bede · Post by **Bede** » Sun Jan 01, 2006 5:31 pm

wingnutt wrote:It's O.K.... I heard that they were owners....

Best first post ever!

swede · Post by **swede** » Sun Jan 01, 2006 9:33 pm

I heard of a similar incident pulled off by an AC crew in Regina about 6 years ago. They clipped a couple of rwy lights with the wing of an A-320, then proceeded to the gate and walked off the aircraft hoping not to get nabbed, or else to stunned to know they had done it. To the best of my knowledge the dolts are still flying for AC - no muss, no fuss - thats how ya do it at the peoples airline.

gelbisch · Post by **gelbisch** » Sun Jan 01, 2006 10:07 pm

A useful and enlightening comment, swede... thanks ever so much.

swede · Post by **swede** » Sun Jan 01, 2006 11:18 pm

I'm glad you liked it, nonetheless it happened - with little fanfare.

Longtimer · Post by **Longtimer** » Mon Jan 02, 2006 12:40 pm

swede wrote:I'm glad you liked it, nonetheless it happened - with little fanfare.

Interesting that it does not appear in the TSB data base (perhaps I missed it). The airport Manager, for one, would have reported the damage to the lights and the TSB then would have done an investigation.....

tonysoprano · Post by **tonysoprano** » Mon Jan 02, 2006 12:46 pm

I think I recall an incident similar to that one but it was a different company. Again, this can happen to anybody. No company is excluded from mishaps.

55+ · Post by **55+** » Mon Jan 02, 2006 2:49 pm

tonysoprano wrote:I think I recall an incident similar to that one but it was a different company. Again, this can happen to anybody. No company is excluded from mishaps.

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Canadian Airlines International(CAI) had an incident in CYHZ on approach to 06 a few years back.

http://www.tsb.gc.ca/en/reports/air/199 ... 6a0035.asp

Jaques Strappe · Post by **Jaques Strappe** » Mon Jan 02, 2006 2:54 pm

swede wrote:I'm glad you liked it, nonetheless it happened - with little fanfare.

I trust that if you actually had the facts, you would have posted them.

wrc · Post by **wrc** » Tue Jan 03, 2006 8:18 pm

I think I recall an incident similar to that one but it was a different company. Again, this can happen to anybody. No company is excluded from mishaps.

Good point. It can, like the Air Canada DC-9 in Charlottetown. I've heard it mentioned here about the comparison between this and the Jetsgo YYC incident. The reason Jetsgo was dumped is that unlike WestJet in YHZ or Air Canada in YYG, they went scooting accross the grass and took off again. I know as I was right behind them and saw the plane 10 min later.
Very unlike the 737 (and I suspect the DC-9, which I saw next day) who didn't realize there was a strike till at the gate.

whipline · Post by **whipline** » Wed Jan 04, 2006 9:29 am

Not that I am defending the jetsgo thing but the decision to do a go around would have happened before they entered the grass/snow/rwy sign. In other words they didn't leave the runway, wait for a minute or two then decide to hit the go buttons.

The Westjet thing and the jetsgo thing do have something in common, they were both approaches in poor visibility. The Jetsgo crew didn't have centre line lighting. I haven't flown into YHZ for some time but is there centre line lighting on 14?

Main thing is no one was hurt. Who cares if some metal got bent.

Schlem · Post by **Schlem** » Wed Jan 04, 2006 11:22 am

This incident is one more card in TC's hand in implementing RVR-2400 CAT-1 ILS minimums. The First Air landing on the grass in YEG, JetsGo in YYC, and now Westjet in YHZ. I wouldn't be suprised if it's on the fast track into the regs.

WJ700 · Post by **WJ700** » Wed Jan 04, 2006 1:04 pm

pilotbzh wrote:I just hope the pilots will be covered by a good lawer...They probably would love beeing part of a union now.....

So let me see... you think WestJet will up and fire these guys, then sue them right? I personally think they're smart enough to handle this in a civilized manner... and avoid making pilots run, not walk, to a union for protection. I'm willing to bet a bunch on it.

Rebel · Post by **Rebel** » Wed Jan 04, 2006 2:23 pm

WJ700 wrote:
pilotbzh wrote:I just hope the pilots will be covered by a good lawer...They probably would love beeing part of a union now.....

So let me see... you think WestJet will up and fire these guys, then sue them right? I personally think they're smart enough to handle this in a civilized manner... and avoid making pilots run, not walk, to a union for protection. I'm willing to bet a bunch on it.

No reputable company is going to fire the pilots. As for suing them, you're in the wrong country that's not going to happen nor should it. The pilot unions have fought long and hard to prevent this from happening in the western world.

You might see a class action lawsuit against WJ by some ambulance chasing lawyer but that will be the extent of it.