Strike outcome desires

[Flight94]

Looks like a great contract to me. Hopefully we can get something similar soon. Congrats.

[itsgrosswhatinet]

Looks like a great contract to me. Hopefully we can get something similar soon. Congrats.

When does WestJet and AC enter a legal strike position? I see the AC contract expires in September 2027. Does it normally take a year of negotiations after the contract expires in order to be able to issue a strike notification?

[goingnowherefast]

It's called pattern bargaining. WJ went first, AC built what they could. TS is last. WJ will surpass TS at their next contract, then AC then TS again. Each pilot group building on gains from the other groups.

[Flight94]

Looks like a great contract to me. Hopefully we can get something similar soon. Congrats.

When does WestJet and AC enter a legal strike position? I see the AC contract expires in September 2027. Does it normally take a year of negotiations after the contract expires in order to be able to issue a strike notification?

Not sure, I'm not with either company.

[Dias]

But what if AC say no?

[JBI]

Looks like a great contract to me. Hopefully we can get something similar soon. Congrats.

When does WestJet and AC enter a legal strike position? I see the AC contract expires in September 2027. Does it normally take a year of negotiations after the contract expires in order to be able to issue a strike notification?

WJ's Contract expires Dec 31, 2026.

Unless mutually agreed (which WJ has currently stated it will not start bargaining early), a Notice to Bargain can be issued by either party within 4 month prior to the Agreement Expiry. So for example, in WJ's case, ALPA could file a Notice to Bargain starting in September 2026.

Within 20 days of filing the Notice to Bargain, the parties have to participate in good faith bargaining or set out an agreed timeline for negotiations.

There isn't a minimum timeline for negotiations, they can continue well past the expiration of the current agreement, though the agreement continues during bargaining.

If an agreement isn't reached, either party can then request conciliation. This essentially "starts the clock" for legal job action. Conciliation lasts for a minimum of 60 days. It can continue if both sides feel progress is being made. If either side feels there is no progress, then they can declare conciliation over and a 21 day cooling off period occurs. No legal job action can take place during this 21 day cooling off period.

If an employee group wishes to strike or partake in other legal job action (such as work to rule, partial strikes etc), a vote is needed and then 72 hours written notice to the employer and the Minister is necessary. The Employer can also give 72 hours notice that they will be locking out the employees.

There is some strategy as to when an employee group should time a strike - usually in a situation where the employer will face stronger financial loses in the event of a work stoppage and although rare in recent aviation history, there is also a strategy for an employer to simply pre-emptively lock out employees to reduce a groups leverage, although the business to find contingencies and also put financial stress on workers.

Very generally, I would expect both WJ and AC to be in legal strike positions 3-6 months after their agreement expires.

[itsgrosswhatinet]

Good luck to you guys. The media is reporting Transat gained 50% wages and most senior pilots are now earning $388,000. That is the figure to surpass.

[thepoors]

But what if AC say no?

Then ALPA will throw their hands up and say there's nothing we can do, the company isn't "willing" to do x y z...

[TFTMB heavy]

This thread has taken a turn! There's a lot to unpack in here.

At Air Transat we had a lot of ground to make up in the pay and take home especially. New pay scales are good, some improvements everywhere and for everyone. New benefits and insurance deal with a pension should improve take home.

I suspect entry salaries will never be enough for some people but the reality is that the industry and the economy have changed but also the entry level pilots. Experience is down, time to get into the rights seat of an airline is way down. You can complain about boomer all you want but they didn't necessarily have it any easier to get into that seat and took many more years and types of aircraft flown to get there. I'm GEN X and it took me 10 years. When Transat hired me I paid my bond at my old job and moved my family across the country for a pay cut. I saw the long term potential and a more stable lifestyle. I wasn't that interested into the airline world and perhaps a big reason why it took 10 years but I flew with two old timers that told it is by far the best lifestyle. They were right.

The cost of everything is up, groceries, cars, utilities, housing... I'm glad I make a good living doing what I love and feel very fortunate. But let me give you a little bit of perspective on why the boomer captain of yours doesn't sound too sympathetic; while you sit there complaining about the cost of living and slow upgrades with your fresh ATPL, $6 Starbucks, $1500 iPhone and fancy watch he's thinking of everything he had to go thru to be where you are.

We're at a point where some people don't show up for interviews or ground schools without giving notice or quit in the middle of their training. That boomer captain would have never even dreamt of doing that. Who shows for an interview without a suit on?

I'm happy with what I've seen of this TA and look forward to the presentations next week.

Anyways, flame away.

[cdnavater]

This thread has taken a turn! There's a lot to unpack in here.

At Air Transat we had a lot of ground to make up in the pay and take home especially. New pay scales are good, some improvements everywhere and for everyone. New benefits and insurance deal with a pension should improve take home.

I suspect entry salaries will never be enough for some people but the reality is that the industry and the economy have changed but also the entry level pilots. Experience is down, time to get into the rights seat of an airline is way down. You can complain about boomer all you want but they didn't necessarily have it any easier to get into that seat and took many more years and types of aircraft flown to get there. I'm GEN X and it took me 10 years. When Transat hired me I paid my bond at my old job and moved my family across the country for a pay cut. I saw the long term potential and a more stable lifestyle. I wasn't that interested into the airline world and perhaps a big reason why it took 10 years but I flew with two old timers that told it is by far the best lifestyle. They were right.

The cost of everything is up, groceries, cars, utilities, housing... I'm glad I make a good living doing what I love and feel very fortunate. But let me give you a little bit of perspective on why the boomer captain of yours doesn't sound too sympathetic; while you sit there complaining about the cost of living and slow upgrades with your fresh ATPL, $6 Starbucks, $1500 iPhone and fancy watch he's thinking of everything he had to go thru to be where you are.

We're at a point where some people don't show up for interviews or ground schools without giving notice or quit in the middle of their training. That boomer captain would have never even dreamt of doing that. Who shows for an interview without a suit on?

I'm happy with what I've seen of this TA and look forward to the presentations next week.

Anyways, flame away.

You shouldn’t be flamed for that but unfortunately the ones who quit in the middle of training don’t see anything but their own issues and their belief that they shouldn’t have to wait for anything!
12 years and 6000 hours(not my choice) to only have to wait 9 years for a left seat(not my choice) means absolutely nothing to the young pilots who believe longevity means nothing!
Glad you guys got a good contract out of this!

[Tbayer2021]

This thread has taken a turn! There's a lot to unpack in here.

At Air Transat we had a lot of ground to make up in the pay and take home especially. New pay scales are good, some improvements everywhere and for everyone. New benefits and insurance deal with a pension should improve take home.

I suspect entry salaries will never be enough for some people but the reality is that the industry and the economy have changed but also the entry level pilots. Experience is down, time to get into the rights seat of an airline is way down. You can complain about boomer all you want but they didn't necessarily have it any easier to get into that seat and took many more years and types of aircraft flown to get there. I'm GEN X and it took me 10 years. When Transat hired me I paid my bond at my old job and moved my family across the country for a pay cut. I saw the long term potential and a more stable lifestyle. I wasn't that interested into the airline world and perhaps a big reason why it took 10 years but I flew with two old timers that told it is by far the best lifestyle. They were right.

The cost of everything is up, groceries, cars, utilities, housing... I'm glad I make a good living doing what I love and feel very fortunate. But let me give you a little bit of perspective on why the boomer captain of yours doesn't sound too sympathetic; while you sit there complaining about the cost of living and slow upgrades with your fresh ATPL, $6 Starbucks, $1500 iPhone and fancy watch he's thinking of everything he had to go thru to be where you are.

We're at a point where some people don't show up for interviews or ground schools without giving notice or quit in the middle of their training. That boomer captain would have never even dreamt of doing that. Who shows for an interview without a suit on?

I'm happy with what I've seen of this TA and look forward to the presentations next week.

Anyways, flame away.

You shouldn’t be flamed for that but unfortunately the ones who quit in the middle of training don’t see anything but their own issues and their belief that they shouldn’t have to wait for anything!
12 years and 6000 hours(not my choice) to only have to wait 9 years for a left seat(not my choice) means absolutely nothing to the young pilots who believe longevity means nothing!
Glad you guys got a good contract out of this!

Curious, you won't answer how much you paid for that house that you mentioned you had 9% interest on it. Or is because you realized that 9% interest on 200K is a tiny bit different than say, 4% or even 3% on 800K?

[TFTMB heavy]

This thread has taken a turn! There's a lot to unpack in here.

At Air Transat we had a lot of ground to make up in the pay and take home especially. New pay scales are good, some improvements everywhere and for everyone. New benefits and insurance deal with a pension should improve take home.

I suspect entry salaries will never be enough for some people but the reality is that the industry and the economy have changed but also the entry level pilots. Experience is down, time to get into the rights seat of an airline is way down. You can complain about boomer all you want but they didn't necessarily have it any easier to get into that seat and took many more years and types of aircraft flown to get there. I'm GEN X and it took me 10 years. When Transat hired me I paid my bond at my old job and moved my family across the country for a pay cut. I saw the long term potential and a more stable lifestyle. I wasn't that interested into the airline world and perhaps a big reason why it took 10 years but I flew with two old timers that told it is by far the best lifestyle. They were right.

The cost of everything is up, groceries, cars, utilities, housing... I'm glad I make a good living doing what I love and feel very fortunate. But let me give you a little bit of perspective on why the boomer captain of yours doesn't sound too sympathetic; while you sit there complaining about the cost of living and slow upgrades with your fresh ATPL, $6 Starbucks, $1500 iPhone and fancy watch he's thinking of everything he had to go thru to be where you are.

We're at a point where some people don't show up for interviews or ground schools without giving notice or quit in the middle of their training. That boomer captain would have never even dreamt of doing that. Who shows for an interview without a suit on?

I'm happy with what I've seen of this TA and look forward to the presentations next week.

Anyways, flame away.

You shouldn’t be flamed for that but unfortunately the ones who quit in the middle of training don’t see anything but their own issues and their belief that they shouldn’t have to wait for anything!
12 years and 6000 hours(not my choice) to only have to wait 9 years for a left seat(not my choice) means absolutely nothing to the young pilots who believe longevity means nothing!
Glad you guys got a good contract out of this!

Curious, you won't answer how much you paid for that house that you mentioned you had 9% interest on it. Or is because you realized that 9% interest on 200K is a tiny bit different than say, 4% or even 3% on 800K?

Like I said I'm GEN X not a boomer so I was fortunate enough to not have to pay 9% interest on a house. I did have the pleasure of having my first job pay me $300/week and had to find place to live near there.

My first house was a mobile home actually and I was lucky enough my ex wife had the down payment saved up because I sure didn't with what I was making. We lived within our means and every time we moved we never bought the place we wanted, we bought the one we could afford. Used cars, no Uber eats and eating out every day and we made coffee at home.

I fly with some FOs that are broke and some have rental properties. Before you go pointing at other people you think had it easier than you make sure you don't have a finger pointed right back at you for how you chose to live your life.

[Tbayer2021]

You shouldn’t be flamed for that but unfortunately the ones who quit in the middle of training don’t see anything but their own issues and their belief that they shouldn’t have to wait for anything!
12 years and 6000 hours(not my choice) to only have to wait 9 years for a left seat(not my choice) means absolutely nothing to the young pilots who believe longevity means nothing!
Glad you guys got a good contract out of this!

Curious, you won't answer how much you paid for that house that you mentioned you had 9% interest on it. Or is because you realized that 9% interest on 200K is a tiny bit different than say, 4% or even 3% on 800K?

Like I said I'm GEN X not a boomer so I was fortunate enough to not have to pay 9% interest on a house. I did have the pleasure of having my first job pay me $300/week and had to find place to live near there.

My first house was a mobile home actually and I was lucky enough my ex wife had the down payment saved up because I sure didn't with what I was making. We lived within our means and every time we moved we never bought the place we wanted, we bought the one we could afford. Used cars, no Uber eats and eating out every day and we made coffee at home.

I fly with some FOs that are broke and some have rental properties. Before you go pointing at other people you think had it easier than you make sure you don't have a finger pointed right back at you for how you chose to live your life.

My apologies. My question was directed at cndavater since he mentioned he had to endure 9% interest on his first home as a sign of how difficult he had it. I was curious how much he paid for said house to plug it into a mortgage calculator and compare and contrast that with mean salaries in Canada at that time. But he doesn't seem to be interested in answering the question. He seems to be of the opinion that because he had a rough go at it in aviation, it also means his cohort was just as disadvantaged.

Average home prices in Toronto during 1981, the period that rates shot up to 21%, was $90,203 according to Toronto MLS. Add to that the fact that I believe 40 year mortgages were possible back then, or was it 35?

I'd be willing to bet that if cndavater was starting out today with his current salary but without the benefit of already having been on the property ladder. He could not afford the same lifestyle he has today, if he would even be approved for the house he owns.

[TFTMB heavy]

I didn't see where he posted he had 9% interest rate but I also didn't scale up past the top of the page.

A lot of us that have houses now started flying in shit holes and built up some equity along the way. Starting out now in a major center is definitely tougher. But every time you upgrade that smartphone or you throw a $6 coffee cup or booster juice in the thrash you have yourself to blame.

[Tbayer2021]

I didn't see where he posted he had 9% interest rate but I also didn't scale up past the top of the page.

A lot of us that have houses now started flying in shit holes and built up some equity along the way. Starting out now in a major center is definitely tougher. But every time you upgrade that smartphone or you throw a $6 coffee cup or booster juice in the thrash you have yourself to blame.

It was a different thread.

But yeah, you're right! That thousand dollar smart phone is keeping people from buying the 1M home. Don't forget the avocado toasts.

[TFTMB heavy]

I didn't see where he posted he had 9% interest rate but I also didn't scale up past the top of the page.

A lot of us that have houses now started flying in shit holes and built up some equity along the way. Starting out now in a major center is definitely tougher. But every time you upgrade that smartphone or you throw a $6 coffee cup or booster juice in the thrash you have yourself to blame.

It was a different thread.

But yeah, you're right! That thousand dollar smart phone is keeping people from buying the 1M home. Don't forget the avocado toasts.

$1000 is nothing, when I see someone scrolling reels with an iPhone Pro I don't tune into their financial complaints. Definitely can't toast sourdough and mash some avocado at home, better pay $25.

Like I said, it's choices and they add up. Complaining and comparing won't change a thing or house prices. I've had to do some renos in every property I've owned because I couldn't afford the one I wanted, choices.

[Tbayer2021]

I didn't see where he posted he had 9% interest rate but I also didn't scale up past the top of the page.

A lot of us that have houses now started flying in shit holes and built up some equity along the way. Starting out now in a major center is definitely tougher. But every time you upgrade that smartphone or you throw a $6 coffee cup or booster juice in the thrash you have yourself to blame.

It was a different thread.

But yeah, you're right! That thousand dollar smart phone is keeping people from buying the 1M home. Don't forget the avocado toasts.

$1000 is nothing, when I see someone scrolling reels with an iPhone Pro I don't tune into their financial complaints. Definitely can't toast sourdough and mash some avocado at home, better pay $25.

Like I said, it's choices and they add up. Complaining and comparing won't change a thing or house prices. I've had to do some renos in every property I've owned because I couldn't afford the one I wanted, choices.

You guys can't/wont wrap your heads around the fact that this isn't about "buying the house they want". A significant portion outright can't purchase anything at all even with good income. It doesn't matter what data is shown to you, how many examples, you simply won't accept a matter of mathematical fact.

I get it, its easier to put the blame on the kids for their irresponsible spending than face the reality that your generation had a lot to do with the current one's plight.

[thepoors]

This thread has taken a turn! There's a lot to unpack in here.

At Air Transat we had a lot of ground to make up in the pay and take home especially. New pay scales are good, some improvements everywhere and for everyone. New benefits and insurance deal with a pension should improve take home.

I suspect entry salaries will never be enough for some people but the reality is that the industry and the economy have changed but also the entry level pilots. Experience is down, time to get into the rights seat of an airline is way down. You can complain about boomer all you want but they didn't necessarily have it any easier to get into that seat and took many more years and types of aircraft flown to get there. I'm GEN X and it took me 10 years. When Transat hired me I paid my bond at my old job and moved my family across the country for a pay cut. I saw the long term potential and a more stable lifestyle. I wasn't that interested into the airline world and perhaps a big reason why it took 10 years but I flew with two old timers that told it is by far the best lifestyle. They were right.

The cost of everything is up, groceries, cars, utilities, housing... I'm glad I make a good living doing what I love and feel very fortunate. But let me give you a little bit of perspective on why the boomer captain of yours doesn't sound too sympathetic; while you sit there complaining about the cost of living and slow upgrades with your fresh ATPL, $6 Starbucks, $1500 iPhone and fancy watch he's thinking of everything he had to go thru to be where you are.

We're at a point where some people don't show up for interviews or ground schools without giving notice or quit in the middle of their training. That boomer captain would have never even dreamt of doing that. Who shows for an interview without a suit on?

I'm happy with what I've seen of this TA and look forward to the presentations next week.

Anyways, flame away.

See my post here because it clearly applies to you as well, your ignorance is astonishing: http://www.avcanada.ca/forums2/viewtopi ... 1#p1348851

[Daniel Cooper]

Please stop. Why does every thread seem to degenerate into dumping on young pilots? We don't want your advice on how to save money!

[cdnavater]

This thread has taken a turn! There's a lot to unpack in here.

At Air Transat we had a lot of ground to make up in the pay and take home especially. New pay scales are good, some improvements everywhere and for everyone. New benefits and insurance deal with a pension should improve take home.

I suspect entry salaries will never be enough for some people but the reality is that the industry and the economy have changed but also the entry level pilots. Experience is down, time to get into the rights seat of an airline is way down. You can complain about boomer all you want but they didn't necessarily have it any easier to get into that seat and took many more years and types of aircraft flown to get there. I'm GEN X and it took me 10 years. When Transat hired me I paid my bond at my old job and moved my family across the country for a pay cut. I saw the long term potential and a more stable lifestyle. I wasn't that interested into the airline world and perhaps a big reason why it took 10 years but I flew with two old timers that told it is by far the best lifestyle. They were right.

The cost of everything is up, groceries, cars, utilities, housing... I'm glad I make a good living doing what I love and feel very fortunate. But let me give you a little bit of perspective on why the boomer captain of yours doesn't sound too sympathetic; while you sit there complaining about the cost of living and slow upgrades with your fresh ATPL, $6 Starbucks, $1500 iPhone and fancy watch he's thinking of everything he had to go thru to be where you are.

We're at a point where some people don't show up for interviews or ground schools without giving notice or quit in the middle of their training. That boomer captain would have never even dreamt of doing that. Who shows for an interview without a suit on?

I'm happy with what I've seen of this TA and look forward to the presentations next week.

Anyways, flame away.

You shouldn’t be flamed for that but unfortunately the ones who quit in the middle of training don’t see anything but their own issues and their belief that they shouldn’t have to wait for anything!
12 years and 6000 hours(not my choice) to only have to wait 9 years for a left seat(not my choice) means absolutely nothing to the young pilots who believe longevity means nothing!
Glad you guys got a good contract out of this!

Curious, you won't answer how much you paid for that house that you mentioned you had 9% interest on it. Or is because you realized that 9% interest on 200K is a tiny bit different than say, 4% or even 3% on 800K?

No question, it’s different but at the time it was absurd, especially a few years earlier it was 20%, it’s all relative! If it happened today, millions of people would walk away from their mortgages, they’d have no choice!
Question for you, would you take out a loan for anything with 9% interest?
The point still stands, every generation has had to deal with crap at some point and everyone feels they had it worse than the previous generation as well as the next generation, that’s human nature.
I sure miss 7 cents per litre of gas, filled my car back then for around 12 dollars, now gas companies have had to increase the amount of precharge on the card because it was taking two transactions, my truck has a 135 litre tank.
Something has to give and I’m certain something will, we are headed toward a cliff with no brakes, that correction will hurt but it is necessary.
I don’t really care if my house drops in value, I still need a roof over my head so I’ll keep paying as long as I can.

[cdnavater]

It was a different thread.

But yeah, you're right! That thousand dollar smart phone is keeping people from buying the 1M home. Don't forget the avocado toasts.

$1000 is nothing, when I see someone scrolling reels with an iPhone Pro I don't tune into their financial complaints. Definitely can't toast sourdough and mash some avocado at home, better pay $25.

Like I said, it's choices and they add up. Complaining and comparing won't change a thing or house prices. I've had to do some renos in every property I've owned because I couldn't afford the one I wanted, choices.

You guys can't/wont wrap your heads around the fact that this isn't about "buying the house they want". A significant portion outright can't purchase anything at all even with good income. It doesn't matter what data is shown to you, how many examples, you simply won't accept a matter of mathematical fact.

I get it, its easier to put the blame on the kids for their irresponsible spending than face the reality that your generation had a lot to do with the current one's plight.

You can’t seem to wrap your head around the fact that, genx, boomers or any previous gen did not drive the prices up! You also can’t wrap your head around companies are not going to magically feel like it’s their responsibility to make sure you can afford a house, all they care about is whether they have bums in seats behind the controls.
Fact, I couldn’t afford a house on my starting salary or for the first 5 years of my career, nothing is different now except maybe how much whining goes on.
And like TFTMB, every house I’ve ever bought including the current one has needed renovations and for me was no where near where I worked, had nothing to do with how much I spent on coffee though. For as long as I’ve been at Jazz, YYC was really the only “affordable” base, going back 20 years it’s the same thing but now it’s much worse. Soooooo, as I have said before, move to an affordable place or rent but the crap about how bad it is is going to continue to fall on deaf ears

[altiplano]

You shouldn’t be flamed for that but unfortunately the ones who quit in the middle of training don’t see anything but their own issues and their belief that they shouldn’t have to wait for anything!
12 years and 6000 hours(not my choice) to only have to wait 9 years for a left seat(not my choice) means absolutely nothing to the young pilots who believe longevity means nothing!
Glad you guys got a good contract out of this!

Curious, you won't answer how much you paid for that house that you mentioned you had 9% interest on it. Or is because you realized that 9% interest on 200K is a tiny bit different than say, 4% or even 3% on 800K?

Like I said I'm GEN X not a boomer so I was fortunate enough to not have to pay 9% interest on a house. I did have the pleasure of having my first job pay me $300/week and had to find place to live near there.

My first house was a mobile home actually and I was lucky enough my ex wife had the down payment saved up because I sure didn't with what I was making. We lived within our means and every time we moved we never bought the place we wanted, we bought the one we could afford. Used cars, no Uber eats and eating out every day and we made coffee at home.

I fly with some FOs that are broke and some have rental properties. Before you go pointing at other people you think had it easier than you make sure you don't have a finger pointed right back at you for how you chose to live your life.

Hahaha. Watch out man, these victims only have you to blame for the cost of things and why they can't immediately have the same house and paycheques and life as you worked decades to build.

These guys deserve their i-phones, and all the stuff, and their takeout orders, and lunch with friends, and daily trip to Starbucks, and $16 cocktails, and a house in Vancouver, and the deserve it now, because the just got hired flying the Wide Body and they deserve everything that comes with it immediately, they deserve your paycheque and your position because they are so hard done by, and if you don't agree with them on everything, then you're just some sort of boomer that wants to keep them down.

[thepoors]

Curious, you won't answer how much you paid for that house that you mentioned you had 9% interest on it. Or is because you realized that 9% interest on 200K is a tiny bit different than say, 4% or even 3% on 800K?

Like I said I'm GEN X not a boomer so I was fortunate enough to not have to pay 9% interest on a house. I did have the pleasure of having my first job pay me $300/week and had to find place to live near there.

My first house was a mobile home actually and I was lucky enough my ex wife had the down payment saved up because I sure didn't with what I was making. We lived within our means and every time we moved we never bought the place we wanted, we bought the one we could afford. Used cars, no Uber eats and eating out every day and we made coffee at home.

I fly with some FOs that are broke and some have rental properties. Before you go pointing at other people you think had it easier than you make sure you don't have a finger pointed right back at you for how you chose to live your life.

Hahaha. Watch out man, these victims only have you to blame for the cost of things and why they can't immediately have the same house and paycheques and life as you worked decades to build.

These guys deserve their i-phones, and all the stuff, and their takeout orders, and lunch with friends, and daily trip to Starbucks, and $16 cocktails, and a house in Vancouver, and the deserve it now, because the just got hired flying the Wide Body and they deserve everything that comes with it immediately, they deserve your paycheque and your position because they are so hard done by, and if you don't agree with them on everything, then you're just some sort of boomer that wants to keep them down.

Right we should just forego any and all comforts of life and end up a bitter old loser shitting on younger people because despite all your "sacrifices" your life still didn't turn out how you hoped. So now all you have is lording your feeble accomplishments over those facing much bigger obstacles to achieve the same while you actively try to sabotage them.

[altiplano]

You're already a bitter loser, so 2/3 if the way there! Good for you. Keep it up and soon you'll be old too!

I don't shit on younger people, just entitled pricks like yourself.

[thepoors]

You're already a bitter loser, so 2/3 if the way there! Good for you. Keep it up and soon you'll be old too!

I don't shit on younger people, just entitled pricks like yourself.

Thanks buddy. Despite your best attempts to steal our future we will make it work. At least most of us still have the potential to build something with our lives and not become a washed up clown yelling "get off my lawn".

The faster you come to terms with the fact no one cares what you think anymore, the better off you'll be for your last miserable years.