Swordfish, cogent and clear discussion points, with good spelling to boot.
I am curious as to what your solution to the problem of allowing free market competition in the rural/northern Canadian marketplace is. And, what exactly is this message you suggest WestJet should understand?
Was there ever any united movement of northerners (other than the airlines affected) to prevent the entry of a southern airline to serve Yellowknife or other destinations up north? Perhaps the only proper solution is to regulate the marketplace such as was the case throughout this country prior to deregulating the isuance of licences.
I personally don't care whether WJ (my employer) flies there or not as I'll still spend 15 days away per month regardless.
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Re: Westjet's New Destinations
Johnny wondered:
dude, my middle initial is "W" ... the last great proponent of free market philosophy. Let 'em fight it out to the death, I say - which of course is the inevitable result of over-capacity on a route. The flaw in this position is that we may lose a regional carrier who greatly benefits the North way beyond a ZF-EG 1:45 flight, and after WJ decides the route is not viable after its summer test run, they pull out like Royal did a few years back. We don't want that, nor do the communities further North of Yellowknife want any increase in fares or cargo tariffs.
Now I'm not so naive as to think WJ hasn't done its homework before this move. So let's assume - for the purposes of hypothetical and argumentative thinking only, you understand - that they want to squeeze Jizz out of this market and assume their responsibility. All the poor ignorant AC/Jizz aficionados lose their trans-Canada (and International) connections in YEG, YYC, and YVR. So we will then depend on WJ's longevity to provide the year-round connections to the rest of Canada, and maybe your recent oneWorld "alliance" (is that what it really is?) will link us to Asia and the Pacific. btw, Jizz runs YZF-YVR direct, and they have a lot of friends for it.
I certainly do not propose a move to the bad old days of regulation, as we appear to be gouged severely in such an environment.
That's the first part of the message.
The second part is that if you come in here, you don't need to undercut the established carriers here in a price war (which they can only lose) to such an extent that the people and communities lose the support, sponsorship and commitment they they now receive from 5T and 7F - which is included in their tariff structure of course. I would like to see WJ implement this support, even if at a reduced level.
Another solution would be to establish connector/feeder agreements (and of course, Interline Agreements) with some of the local carriers to feed your capacity. Air Tindi, Buffalo, and North Wright come to mind right away. And stepping right out on a limb, get 5T into the oneWorld nest (where CP used to be) and don't compete with the idiotic competitive schedule timing that 5T and 7F now do. If the RPMs really do exist after Jizz dies, you can both share the load.
Of course this statement is based on an assumption that the rural/Northern market "needs" free-market competition. If the market isn't saturated enough with 5T, 7F, and Jizz scratching each other's eyes out for passenger traffic, along comes Our Savior, WJ to help them out, filling the capacity void.what your solution to the problem of allowing free market competition in the rural/northern Canadian marketplace is
dude, my middle initial is "W" ... the last great proponent of free market philosophy. Let 'em fight it out to the death, I say - which of course is the inevitable result of over-capacity on a route. The flaw in this position is that we may lose a regional carrier who greatly benefits the North way beyond a ZF-EG 1:45 flight, and after WJ decides the route is not viable after its summer test run, they pull out like Royal did a few years back. We don't want that, nor do the communities further North of Yellowknife want any increase in fares or cargo tariffs.
Now I'm not so naive as to think WJ hasn't done its homework before this move. So let's assume - for the purposes of hypothetical and argumentative thinking only, you understand - that they want to squeeze Jizz out of this market and assume their responsibility. All the poor ignorant AC/Jizz aficionados lose their trans-Canada (and International) connections in YEG, YYC, and YVR. So we will then depend on WJ's longevity to provide the year-round connections to the rest of Canada, and maybe your recent oneWorld "alliance" (is that what it really is?) will link us to Asia and the Pacific. btw, Jizz runs YZF-YVR direct, and they have a lot of friends for it.
I certainly do not propose a move to the bad old days of regulation, as we appear to be gouged severely in such an environment.
That's the first part of the message.
The second part is that if you come in here, you don't need to undercut the established carriers here in a price war (which they can only lose) to such an extent that the people and communities lose the support, sponsorship and commitment they they now receive from 5T and 7F - which is included in their tariff structure of course. I would like to see WJ implement this support, even if at a reduced level.
Another solution would be to establish connector/feeder agreements (and of course, Interline Agreements) with some of the local carriers to feed your capacity. Air Tindi, Buffalo, and North Wright come to mind right away. And stepping right out on a limb, get 5T into the oneWorld nest (where CP used to be) and don't compete with the idiotic competitive schedule timing that 5T and 7F now do. If the RPMs really do exist after Jizz dies, you can both share the load.
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