"Taxi only" flight

[jump154]

Pilots are hilarious!

http://www.tc.gc.ca/eng/civilaviation/r ... 01-502.htm

" Personal Logs

401.08 (1) Every applicant for, and every holder of, a flight crew permit, licence or rating shall maintain a personal log in accordance with subsection (2) and with the personnel licensing standards for the documentation of

(a) experience acquired in respect of the issuance of the flight crew permit, licence or rating; and
(amended 2001/03/01; previous version)

(b) recency.

(2) A personal log that is maintained for the purposes referred to in paragraphs (1)(a) and (b) shall contain the holder's name and the following information in respect of each flight:

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I read that to be that a personal log is mandatory for a holder of a licence - am I a hilarious or non-hilarious pilot?

Not every flight, just those needed for a higher license or recency, so 1 every 5 years etc...

I can imagine a PPL with no intent of getting a higher license need only log the bare minimum.

[CFR]

So what is the answer do you or don't you have to log every flight?

[Colonel Sanders]

No, you don't have to log every flight. All you
need is some record, somewhere, which meets
the "five year" requirement of logging required
crewmember time, which for most people is PIC.

The "two year" requirement is met by the ASL letter.

If you don't want to carry pax, you don't have to
record 5 takeoffs and landings in the last 6 months.

[CFR]

So if, you wish to apply for a higher category OR your type of flying requires proof of recency (IFR, Night, or carrying pax) you MUST have entries in, according to the CARS definition, a "personal log" (note I did not say "book" it could be electronic or a letter or whatever) to prove it as required (ie: 5 years, annually or within the preceeding 6 months depending on the particular recency requirement).

Of course then it gets a bit confusing because IF you are maintaining a personal log for any of the above reasons, the CAR's say you will record "each" flight ...

Just for fun - journey logs, personal log, air time and flight time - Oh My! http://www.tatc.gc.ca/decision/decision ... dc_id=1339
And here's what could happen if you try and come up with the recency info at a later date - http://www.tatc.gc.ca/decision/decision ... &dc_id=693

[photofly]

IF you are maintaining a personal log for any of the above reasons, the CAR's say you will record "each" flight ...

70x requirements aside, you can construe that CAR as requiring the details only for each flight that is recorded for the "documentation .... of recency", not every single flight.

[CpnCrunch]

While you don't have to log all flights in your personal logbook, it is generally a good idea for most pilots. Apart from getting ratings, insurance companies generally want to know how many hours you've flown in various types of planes. Also if you apply for a pilot job you'll need to show your logbook. In my opinion it seems easier filling in a logbook after each flight than not doing it for most pilots.

And I agree with Lurch that you really should fill in an entry in the journey log with no airtime if you discover a snag while taxiing. Nowhere in the CARs does it say you can only log flights with airtime in the journey log, but it DOES say you have to log snags "at the latest, before the next flight". I think having a log entry is better than not having one in general.

[photofly]

I had a response to my query (verbatim the question in the first post of this thread) from TC today. I won't post the officer's name or position without their permission, but here is their email, without further comment from me:

Mr. Xxxx,

I will provide you with my best "interpretation" from the CARs. Like any legal statute a lawyer may offer a different perspective so I am basing my answer on experience rather than legal precedence.

The definition in CAR 101 in my opinion is clear, flight time is based on the premise an aircraft flight occurred. So in the example you use, though there was intention to fly, no flight occurred hence no flight time credit.

This logic is supported by the fact that 0.2 used to taxi the aircraft to and from the run-up area would not be recorded in the aircraft Journey Log and not counted against the aircraft airframe time between maintenance actions.

So even though Flight time (which includes taxiing) is credited towards licencing and experience credits, it is based on the premise that a flight occurred. So it would not be appropriate for a pilot to "log" 0.2 for taxiing since the aircraft never took off and no air time was recorded.

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Flight Operations
Ontario Region