What’s the over and under this dude keeps his job

[dontcallmeshirley]

Even if that kills 1500 Palestines, of which 500 children? Because that's what's happening now.

Let me be clear. If Palestinians want the air strikes and potential ground invasion to stop, they must release all hostages. Until then, they are at risk because of the choice of their family, friends, and neighbours.

Israel did not start this war, but they will end it. All Gazans who do not want to be involved should leave the populated areas (mostly south). If they see Hamas fighters, they would do well to keep distance.

End Hamas like the west ended ISIS.

[dontcallmeshirley]

To clarify further, from the outside, the lives of Israeli civilians are equal to the lives of Palestinians. From the Palestinians point of view, Palestinians are more important. From Isreal's point of view, Israelis are more important.

Israel did not attack Gaza out of the blue. Hamas set this into motion and Hamas is responsible for all deaths on all sides. This will not end until Hamas is no longer a threat to any Jew.

[dontcallmeshirley]

If you get bit by a wasp, you avoid the nest. If you continue to get bitten by wasps, you remove the wasp nest.

[thrust set]

My understanding from speaking with someone in management, this individual became the interest of corporate security due to initial complaints online. Once he found out that certain social media posts might attract the interest of Air Canada, he tried erasing then deleting all accounts. Apparently there were a lot more that was not made public.

With regards to him receiving a settlement this was the reply……… “he doesn’t have a pot to piss in, nor a window to through it out of.”

[digits_]

Israel did not start this war,

Historians can fill books trying to prove or disprove that statement.

Israel did not attack Gaza out of the blue. Hamas set this into motion and Hamas is responsible for all deaths on all sides. This will not end until Hamas is no longer a threat to any Jew.

Hamas didn't attack Israel out of the blue either.

A lot of the replies here would make sense if Hamas attacked Israel and started a war. But they didn't. The war has been going on for over 70 years. They are retaliating for Palestine deaths in the past months/years, just like Israel is retaliating for the recent attack. That's the point I've been trying to make. The most recent attack has been in the news because it was big, not because it was the first. What's worse, killing 100 people every month, or killing 600 at once? It's morbid, but that's what it boils down to.

Look at these stats for a bigger picture: https://today.lorientlejour.com/article ... 20(UNOCHA).

Or, from another source, similar numbers: https://www.statista.com/chart/16516/is ... west-bank/

If you get bit by a wasp, you avoid the nest. If you continue to get bitten by wasps, you remove the wasp nest.

Why is this a valid excuse if Israel retaliates against Palestine, but not when Palestine attack Israel?

[DanWEC]

I think 1967 would disagree regarding "Israel didn't start the war". But there is no justification for terrorism.

But cmon guys, about as much will get solved here as got solved in the last thousand years over there!! Let's talk about beer and shitty ATC in Rome.

[7ECA]

End Hamas like the west ended ISIS.

I hate to break it to you, ISIS still exists and has a largely intact international base from which to fundraise, plan, and execute attacks from. The Caliphate may be no more, but the organization is still very much in existence. Not at all unlike Al Qaeda or the Taliban, and how they very much continued to function even after largely being pushed out of their base of operations in Afghanistan at the start of the war there...

While the Israeli people, as well as their leadership, are pushing for retribution and quite likely a ground invasion; that's going to end rather poorly for all sides. Urban and/or guerrilla warfare is incredibly costly for all sides, but especially for the attacker. The Israeli's are also doing themselves absolutely no favours bombing the crap out of densely packed urban areas, because that almost entirely precludes the use of heavy vehicles for the movement of troops, further exposing them to the myriad dangers of operating in a highly hostile environment. Hamas quite likely planned this out as a trap for the IDF, the question becomes what will the operational goals be for the IDF, and are they achievable without incurring significant casualties in a ground operation. It's highly unlikely you can destroy the Hamas leadership structure simply from aerial attacks, as they are extremely well insulated...

[GeoffPilot]

When did AC pilots become experts on middle east conflict and total duds with contracts?

[dontcallmeshirley]

Why is this a valid excuse if Israel retaliates against Palestine, but not when Palestine attack Israel?

I'm sorry, last Friday was Israel attacking Gaza? No. They were not.

There have already been attacks on Jews for being Jews in Canada today. Hamas has called on Muslims around the world to attack Jews tomorrow. It's a credible enough threat that major police forces around the country are increasing patrols around Jewish sites.

If you wonder why I take this so personally, this is why.

https://www.cp24.com/news/chief-says-to ... -1.6598219
https://vancouversun.com/news/local-new ... es-resolve
https://calgary.citynews.ca/2023/10/08/ ... ar-israel/

[rookiepilot]

Why is this a valid excuse if Israel retaliates against Palestine, but not when Palestine attack Israel?

I'm sorry, last Friday was Israel attacking Gaza? No. They were not.

There have already been attacks on Jews for being Jews in Canada today. Hamas has called on Muslims around the world to attack Jews tomorrow. It's a credible enough threat that major police forces around the country are increasing patrols around Jewish sites.

If you wonder why I take this so personally, this is why.

https://www.cp24.com/news/chief-says-to ... -1.6598219
https://vancouversun.com/news/local-new ... es-resolve
https://calgary.citynews.ca/2023/10/08/ ... ar-israel/

They don’t care, unless its about their paycheques. Thats obvious.

[dontcallmeshirley]

They don’t care, unless its about their paycheques. Thats obvious.

May they never have to experience the pain and fear that Jews around the world are experiencing.

[bcflyer]

The fact is that he made what some considered inflammatory posts while in his uniform and that linked Air Canada to his beliefs. His posts apparently caused high value passengers to threaten to boycott AC, which if true, is a clear case of doing damage to the AC brand and is in direct contravention of the social media policy. They had no choice but to terminate his employment.

As for his RAIC etc that’s for TC to decide. I would guess that most airlines in Canada would be very hesitant to hire him based his actions while in uniform.

The rest of the debate on here should be moved to a separate thread.

[TeePeeCreeper]

They don’t care, unless its about their paycheques. Thats obvious.

May they never have to experience the pain and fear that Jews around the world are experiencing.

Honest question…

(Disclaimer I am against any hostile act on a human being from another and couldn’t give a damn about religion)

Don’t you find it ironic that the Jewish people, for thousands of years have been persecuted only have have annexed a part of land with the help of the UN?

Not for or against that, It just seems to me that the persecuted and oppressed switched sides/roles though annexing that land at some point around 1949.

I trust that you can appreciate what I’m asking. It’s a genuine question without any bias whatsoever.

(And please, before you dare call me an antisemite because of my honest reflection, as a goy, I have attended my fair share of bat/bar mitzvahs in my formidable years)

TPC

(The crew member in question didn’t do himself any favours and it boggles my mind that anyone in a professional capacity would display such a lack of… hum… tack while dressed in uniform)

[dontcallmeshirley]

(And please, before you dare call me an antisemite because of my honest reflection, as a goy, I have attended my fair share of bat/bar mitzvahs in my formidable years)

Are you going to repeatedly attempt to justify the rape, murder, and torture of civilians? If not, you're good.

Don’t you find it ironic that the Jewish people, for thousands of years have been persecuted only have have annexed a part of land with the help of the UN?

The UN continuously posts "resolutions" against Israel, but fails to condemn heinous attacks around the world.

Gazans should evacuate to the south of Gaza. If anyone is upset that they can't leave the strip, ask why the other country bordering them is keeping the border closed.

[rookiepilot]

CNN has already almost completely shifted focus to how its Israel is committing atrocities and “war crimes” by demanding the people of Gaza move, so Israel can target Hamas WITHOUT killing civilians.

That didn’t take long, liberal left wing media.

[cdnavater]

Israel did not start this war,

Historians can fill books trying to prove or disprove that statement.

Israel did not attack Gaza out of the blue. Hamas set this into motion and Hamas is responsible for all deaths on all sides. This will not end until Hamas is no longer a threat to any Jew.

Hamas didn't attack Israel out of the blue either.

A lot of the replies here would make sense if Hamas attacked Israel and started a war. But they didn't. The war has been going on for over 70 years. They are retaliating for Palestine deaths in the past months/years, just like Israel is retaliating for the recent attack. That's the point I've been trying to make. The most recent attack has been in the news because it was big, not because it was the first. What's worse, killing 100 people every month, or killing 600 at once? It's morbid, but that's what it boils down to.

Look at these stats for a bigger picture: https://today.lorientlejour.com/article ... 20(UNOCHA).

Or, from another source, similar numbers: https://www.statista.com/chart/16516/is ... west-bank/

If you get bit by a wasp, you avoid the nest. If you continue to get bitten by wasps, you remove the wasp nest.

Why is this a valid excuse if Israel retaliates against Palestine, but not when Palestine attack Israel?

Jesus man!
Hamas didn’t infiltrate and attack military positions, they attacked and raped and burned alive and…… against unarmed civilians and even worse children. These are war crimes, stop calling it a war! As has been pointed out the Israeli attacks are military and civilian casualties are because Hamas doesn’t value life, they value propaganda and need some but show me anything that Israel did that is comparable.
It’s not like the children were standing in front of a high value military position, it was heinous acts of a terrorist group!
You trying to justify these acts as an act of war makes you look like a fool!

[Sulako]

This particular topic dealing with this particular pilot has been thoroughly discussed. Next!