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Re: Pic from a swamper
Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 9:53 am
by kingeddie
Woodland Caribou
Re: Pic from a swamper
Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 10:04 am
by kingeddie
Helitorch/NVG Tanker/ On the rocks
Re: Pic from a swamper
Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 10:30 am
by kingeddie
A few more from the old CD pile
Re: Pic from a swamper
Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 10:35 am
by kingeddie
Happy New year
Re: Pic from a swamper
Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 6:19 pm
by kingeddie
Heli Pics
Re: Pic from a swamper
Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 9:11 pm
by 1000 HP
Cree Lake early in 2008
Re: Pic from a swamper
Posted: Thu Jan 01, 2009 9:17 am
by mag check
Cool pics, But I thought that to drop anything out of an aircraft, you need to wear a chute?
I could be wrong, as I'm sure that the MNR would follow all the regs

Re: Pic from a swamper
Posted: Thu Jan 01, 2009 9:38 am
by C-GGGQ
I believe the reg only states that you cannot drop anything if it poses a threat to persons or property. I don't remember anything about wearing a chute.
Re: Pic from a swamper
Posted: Thu Jan 01, 2009 10:09 am
by CLguy
No such regulation. Not sure where you dug that up from!! MNR has been dropping stuff from airplanes and helicopters for almost 80 years and don't own any parachutes.
Re: Pic from a swamper
Posted: Thu Jan 01, 2009 6:35 pm
by Johnny#5
Just from a picture, how do you tell the difference between a 215T and a 415?
Re: Pic from a swamper
Posted: Thu Jan 01, 2009 7:00 pm
by mag check
CLguy wrote:No such regulation. Not sure where you dug that up from!! MNR has been dropping stuff from airplanes and helicopters for almost 80 years and don't own any parachutes.
Well, I know that dropping skydivers the pilot needs a chute, and I'm pretty sure that somewhere in the regs it says that any air drop needs one. I'll look into it.
Re: Pic from a swamper
Posted: Thu Jan 01, 2009 7:21 pm
by mag check
mag check wrote:CLguy wrote:No such regulation. Not sure where you dug that up from!! MNR has been dropping stuff from airplanes and helicopters for almost 80 years and don't own any parachutes.
Well, I know that dropping skydivers the pilot needs a chute, and I'm pretty sure that somewhere in the regs it says that any air drop needs one. I'll look into it.
Hmmm, guess I'm wrong, can't find it. All I can find is that you can't create a "hazard" to anyone or thing. Not too sure how to drop something from an aircraft without creating a hazard, but at least you don't need a chute

Re: Pic from a swamper
Posted: Thu Jan 01, 2009 7:46 pm
by Bushav8er
Dropping of Objects
602.23 No person shall create a hazard to persons or property on the surface by dropping an object from an aircraft in flight.
Re: Pic from a swamper
Posted: Thu Jan 01, 2009 7:53 pm
by C-GGGQ
mag check wrote:
Well, I know that dropping skydivers the pilot needs a chute, and I'm pretty sure that somewhere in the regs it says that any air drop needs one. I'll look into it.
Hmmm, guess I'm wrong, can't find it. All I can find is that you can't create a "hazard" to anyone or thing. Not too sure how to drop something from an aircraft without creating a hazard, but at least you don't need a chute

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yeah the skydive pilot i was with didn't wear one. and as long as you aren't aiming at a person or property (building) you aren't posing a hazard. (see amatuer flower bombing competetions)
Re: Pic from a swamper
Posted: Thu Jan 01, 2009 8:16 pm
by just curious
Took me a while to figure out what you were talking about, but I'm pretty sure that the pic of the helo with the bag going out the door would have been taken from the boat maybe 6 feet below. A chute isn't going to help.
Re: Pic from a swamper
Posted: Thu Jan 01, 2009 8:30 pm
by mag check
Sorry for the minor de-rail, on with the pics

Re: Pic from a swamper
Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2009 1:34 pm
by kingeddie
There are regs you are correct .. There are also exemptions in the form of commercial ops specs .. The picture is of fire hose being free dropped to fire crews on the ground that are building line around a fire front, hose lays can be miles long through areas where there are no landing areas and if the crews carried the hose from the landing area the fire would likely have burned over the area we are trying to contain . There also ops specs we use for entering or exiting an aircraft while it is in flight (no parachute) . For fire fighting , preservation of human life and operating under authourity of a police agency there are many exemptions . Water bucketing , water bombing and dropping of supplies are only a few..
Eddie
Re: Pic from a swamper
Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2009 8:38 pm
by CLguy
Johnny the only way is if the waterdoors are in the picture. The 215T has the old system which is 2 larger drop doors on the bottom of the hull and the 415 has 4 smaller doors. You can also tell if the picture is of the cockpit. The 415 is glass and the 215T has the older style instruments.
Re: Pic from a swamper
Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2009 8:49 pm
by Bush Man
On with the pics ......
Re: Pic from a swamper
Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2009 8:55 pm
by sky's the limit
On with the pix.
Non-Canadian bush.... But I think it qualifies.

Re: Pic from a swamper
Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 8:36 pm
by Just another canuck
Not Canadian bush either.... but still good.
Re: Pic from a swamper
Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 7:37 am
by Rudder Bug
Canuck
This looks like and Islander dash, an Islander nose and an Islander airstrip! Where was that???
Re: Pic from a swamper
Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 8:29 am
by Just another canuck
Rudder Bug wrote:Canuck
This looks like and Islander dash, an Islander nose and an Islander airstrip! Where was that???
That is a Caravan my friend.... and it's in a place called Sinak in West Papua, Indonesia. Runway is at 7000' with a 12% incline. You usually land with close to full power cause of the altitude... and sink you get off that little bump at then end of the runway. Doesn't look like much but it sure has some effect.
Cheers.
JAC
Re: Pic from a swamper
Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 8:32 am
by tiny
JAC, who are you flying for in Papua?
Tiny
Re: Pic from a swamper
Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 8:35 am
by Rudder Bug
I should have look a little better before posting. BN-2's usually don't have a prop spinning up front!
