The Air Canada OTS thread

[JoeyBarton]

What you need to know is 453 were hired in 2018.
Forecast of 400 2019 400 2020 and 200 2021, as expansion slows/stops around that timeline.
The music will slow down..

[AOW]

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What about this week's course??

They haven’t been announced yet, but based on the number of unnamed new hires in the training forecast, between now and the start of March...
24 A320
8 Rouge 767
4 EMJ
3 B737
1 B787RP

They should have the official list by Friday.

[Gonzodriver]

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What about this week's course??

They haven’t been announced yet, but based on the number of unnamed new hires in the training forecast, between now and the start of March...
24 A320
8 Rouge 767
4 EMJ
3 B737
1 B787RP

They should have the official list by Friday.

Ok, thanks. I'm always curious what they offer each course.

[Data Printer]

Lots of variety in the PIT course that started this week, hiring from 21 different organizations, 34 of 36 new hires were OTS. Not much representation from the express carriers (1 Jazz and 1 Sky).

Encore - 7
RCAF - 6
Westjet - 3
Sunwing - 2
Porter - 2
Other - 16

Other carriers had one new hire each: Jazz, Sky, Swoop, Emirates, Voyageur, Provincial, Cargojet, Canadian North, Bearskin, Pacific Coastal, Perimeter, Summit Air, London Air Service, Bombardier, Carson Air, Corporate.

[goingnowherefast]

I would have expected a lot more from team teal (and pink) given the typical experience of those pilots, and the turmoil going on there.

[V1Vr]

I would have expected a lot more from team teal (and pink) given the typical experience of those pilots, and the turmoil going on there.

With the new Jazz contract, I expect hiring from team teal to slow down. 60% min of all hiring at AC must come from Jazz now. OTS is going to get a lot more competitive, that's for sure.

[co-joe]

I would have expected a lot more from team teal (and pink) given the typical experience of those pilots, and the turmoil going on there.

With the new Jazz contract, I expect hiring from team teal to slow down. 60% min of all hiring at AC must come from Jazz now. OTS is going to get a lot more competitive, that's for sure.

That goal post is on wheels!

[altiplano]

Lots of variety in the PIT course that started this week, hiring from 21 different organizations, 34 of 36 new hires were OTS. Not much representation from the express carriers (1 Jazz and 1 Sky).

Encore - 7
RCAF - 6
Westjet - 3
Sunwing - 2
Porter - 2
Other - 16

Other carriers had one new hire each: Jazz, Sky, Swoop, Emirates, Voyageur, Provincial, Cargojet, Canadian North, Bearskin, Pacific Coastal, Perimeter, Summit Air, London Air Service, Bombardier, Carson Air, Corporate.

I was interested to see 2 Captains out of Sunwing joining... from what I read on another thread I thought they were paid and treated better than Air Canada Captains?

Anyway, it's great to see such a diverse background in the group of professionals joining. Congrats!

What you need to know is 453 were hired in 2018.
Forecast of 400 2019 400 2020 and 200 2021, as expansion slows/stops around that timeline.
The music will slow down..

I believe after this big burst, we will see a continuation of hiring in the range of 100/year going forward, barring a recession or event causing a pullback/reduction. In the scope of the past, AC even running a few courses a year kept the music playing in this business... it might not be as blaringly loud as it currently is though... 1500 over 4 years... wow...

[daedalusx]

I was interested to see 2 Captains out of Sunwing joining... from what I read on another thread I thought they were paid and treated better than Air Canada Captains?

Anyway, it's great to see such a diverse background in the group of professionals joining. Congrats!

Maybe they were West coast or YVR commuters and wanted a better lifestyle ? Sunwing senior FOs have a very great lifestyle but Jr Capt could be a much more of a hardship if you're commuting. Or maybe they envy the long haul lifestyle ?

[Sharklasers]

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[lokito50]

Have the calls gone out for the next couple of courses?

[FighterPilot]

Just got the call today for March start.
First applied Nov 2017
Contacted for video interview Sept 2018
In person end of Oct 2018
Received offer Feb 2019 for March 11th start.

[altiplano]

Just got the call today for March start.
First applied Nov 2017
Contacted for video interview Sept 2018
In person end of Oct 2018
Received offer Feb 2019 for March 11th start.

Congratulations! Welcome.

[lokito50]

+1, - the welcome

[Gonzodriver]

Just got the call today for March start.
First applied Nov 2017
Contacted for video interview Sept 2018
In person end of Oct 2018
Received offer Feb 2019 for March 11th start.

Congrats.

What's your background/experience? If you don't mind sharing

[Outlaw58]

Just got the call today for March start.
First applied Nov 2017
Contacted for video interview Sept 2018
In person end of Oct 2018
Received offer Feb 2019 for March 11th start.

Congrats.

What's your background/experience? If you don't mind sharing

Gonzo? still at 402 or you out?

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[Gonzodriver]

Just got the call today for March start.
First applied Nov 2017
Contacted for video interview Sept 2018
In person end of Oct 2018
Received offer Feb 2019 for March 11th start.

Congrats.

What's your background/experience? If you don't mind sharing

Gonzo? still at 402 or you out?

58

I'm still there. For now.

[FighterPilot]

Just got the call today for March start.
First applied Nov 2017
Contacted for video interview Sept 2018
In person end of Oct 2018
Received offer Feb 2019 for March 11th start.

Congrats.

What's your background/experience? If you don't mind sharing

My username is unintentionally misleading. I’ve had it since flight training with aspirations of joining the military. No actual military experience.
Was in Air Cadets growing up
Aviation college deploma
4000+
1000hr 705 FO time
2000+ MPIC turbine time
Currently 703 Capt on a twin turbine.

[uke]

I found others timeline posts helpful so figured I would share mine.

Applied mid Nov 2018
Offered video interview end Nov
Video interview beginning of Dec
In-person interview 20 Dec
Job offer on 18 Jan for an 18 Feb start

Super professional process all the way through. Ultimately decided to go a different way. Military pilot with 3000hrs turboprop and jet.

[schnitzel2k3]

I found others timeline posts helpful so figured I would share mine.

Applied mid Nov 2018
Offered video interview end Nov
Video interview beginning of Dec
In-person interview 20 Dec
Job offer on 18 Jan for an 18 Feb start

Super professional process all the way through. Ultimately decided to go a different way. Military pilot with 3000hrs turboprop and jet.

Thank you! Enjoy the ride brother.

S.

[Daniel Cooper]

Latest course was 50% Express (mostly Jazz). The rest was the usual split of WestJet, Military, Ex-pat, Porter, Sunwing, and Transat.

[Vanguard]

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[landsky]

Question

First applied 2017. Received confirmation.

Updated application a few months ago but no word still or are they just behind applications.

4000hrs / 705 MPIC / Training


Should I resubmit application with their new portal or is it the same and just a new layout?

Vanguard,

Do you have post secondary? I know tons of 705 Captains with lots of time and work in training who haven’t heard a thing because they have no post secondary. AC is not currently interviewing OTS applicants who don’t have post secondary. I’ve seen them hire FO’a with no PIC time (other then the bare minimum you need for your ATPL) that have a degree etc... Unfortunetly experience is not what they value most right now.

My advice to anyone who is dead set on AC is to get some kind of post secondary education or go to an Express carrier. Lots of guys from there being hired with just high school and a couple years punched at an Express carrier.

[altiplano]

I'll echo that.

If you didn't finish your degree, or took a half baked community college course that went nowhere, put it on your resume 2 years undergrad studies at U of Wherever... or 1 year Local Tech Burnout Academy with honours... whatever, you can explain it in the room why you didn't finish, or why it's a work in progress... but it will possibly help get you in the room...

If you have nothing remotely post secondary, take a night school or correspondence university credit course... maybe in beginners French and tick that box off too... it's all in the points and while total time, PIC, and big airplanes all score, it's only a part of what they are looking at... we can argue whether that's right or not but it makes no difference... it is what it is...

I'm not even sure they are looking at it until it gets picked out by the system either... I suspect some HR AI program is picking out the applicants with the right credentials and buzz words from the other few thousand applicants, and then sending you on to the person who weeds through it from there...

[Inverted2]

You can always sign up for online university courses and quit them after you get hired. A social justice or gender studies course will really get the HR ladies attention.