Westjet Fuel surcharge

This forum has been developed to discuss aviation related topics.

Moderators: North Shore, sky's the limit, sepia, Sulako, lilfssister, I WAS Birddog

Post Reply
godsrcrazy
Rank 8
Rank 8
Posts: 847
Joined: Mon Jan 31, 2005 4:12 pm

Westjet Fuel surcharge

Post by godsrcrazy »

Now i am curious in this article http://calgaryherald.com/business/local ... hs-to-come they claim their rates are not effected by Fuel cost's they are determined by passenger load. There for they will not drop their prices.

In this arctice http://www.canada.com/chilliwacktimes/s ... af7e6eb36a the rates increased for fuel surcharge.

I say you can't have it both ways. I know flights that Westjet started competing on with $75.00 one way seat sales. They claimed they were not under cutting the competition. These routes fly full almost all the time and try and get a seat under $175.00 now. I am not sure they can get their story straight.
---------- ADS -----------
 
User avatar
Bede
Rank 11
Rank 11
Posts: 4673
Joined: Tue Mar 09, 2004 5:52 am

Re: Westjet Fuel surcharge

Post by Bede »

WestJet just knocked 15% off their base fares a few months ago. The quote you are mentioning is just recently, after WJ already cut fares.

Yes WJ started with $75 fares...in 1996. If you correct for inflation, that's ~105 today. There are still fares around $100 around. Sadly, the governments and airports will charge you another $50 on top of that.
---------- ADS -----------
 
User avatar
Rookie50
Rank (9)
Rank (9)
Posts: 1819
Joined: Mon Apr 09, 2012 6:00 am
Location: Clear of the Active.

Re: Westjet Fuel surcharge

Post by Rookie50 »

As a business owner perspective, I say.....start an airline.

Competition is a good thing...
---------- ADS -----------
 
Last edited by Rookie50 on Sun Feb 08, 2015 4:39 pm, edited 2 times in total.
trey kule
Rank 11
Rank 11
Posts: 4766
Joined: Fri Aug 19, 2005 7:09 pm

Re: Westjet Fuel surcharge

Post by trey kule »

Sadly, the governments and airports will charge you another $50 on top of that.
Yes, its the darn government that is mandating they charge for each bag to reduce the unnecessary luggage we used to carry for a week's trip somewhere. It is the government that is trying to fight obesity by mandating that seat space be reduced to what is the human limit. And charge us for food headsets...pretty soon pillows and blankets.

It is good to know that WJ is facing the challange by reducing the number of CSRs at airports and allowing us the opportunity to stand inline for even longer..healthy living by wasting time standing in line.

The major Canadian airlines creative marketing departments have come up with so many add ons that you really can not blame them for losing track of one or two.
---------- ADS -----------
 
Accident speculation:
Those that post don’t know. Those that know don’t post
av8ts
Rank 8
Rank 8
Posts: 848
Joined: Fri Apr 08, 2011 8:31 am

Re: Westjet Fuel surcharge

Post by av8ts »

Yes those chocolate headsets are awesome but they do charge too much for them
---------- ADS -----------
 
tallyho
Rank 3
Rank 3
Posts: 101
Joined: Wed Jul 14, 2010 9:18 pm

Re: Westjet Fuel surcharge

Post by tallyho »

This sounds suspiciously like a criticism of WestJet. This behaviour is grossly misguided and will not be tolerated.
---------- ADS -----------
 
iflyforpie
Top Poster
Top Poster
Posts: 8133
Joined: Tue Apr 15, 2008 12:25 pm
Location: Winterfell...

Re: Westjet Fuel surcharge

Post by iflyforpie »

tallyho wrote:This sounds suspiciously like a criticism of WestJet. This behaviour is grossly misguided and will not be tolerated.
:lol:

Just remember... they have 'Westjettitude'. :D
---------- ADS -----------
 
Geez did I say that....? Or just think it....?
godsrcrazy
Rank 8
Rank 8
Posts: 847
Joined: Mon Jan 31, 2005 4:12 pm

Re: Westjet Fuel surcharge

Post by godsrcrazy »

Bede wrote:WestJet just knocked 15% off their base fares a few months ago. The quote you are mentioning is just recently, after WJ already cut fares.

Yes WJ started with $75 fares...in 1996. If you correct for inflation, that's ~105 today. There are still fares around $100 around. Sadly, the governments and airports will charge you another $50 on top of that.
The fares i am referring to were not in 1996. They were in 2009 when they started flying to Yellowknife. They continued with these fares until both Northern based airlines chopped their flights back. The rates increased within a few months of this happening and have never gone back to $75.00. Both Northern carriers screamed fowl and Westjet claimed they were not cutting rates they were only charging what was fare.

Back on topic why did they claim a few years ago prices went up due to Fuel prices (Fuel Surcharge) now they claim the price of fuel going down has nothing to do with pricing.
---------- ADS -----------
 
co-joe
Rank 11
Rank 11
Posts: 4719
Joined: Mon Feb 16, 2004 2:33 am
Location: YYC 230 degree radial at about 10 DME

Re: Westjet Fuel surcharge

Post by co-joe »

Heard on the radio them made 91 mil last quarter. Not bad. So if fuel prices go way down, but they buy it in greenbacks do they come out ahead?
---------- ADS -----------
 
Donald
Rank 10
Rank 10
Posts: 2428
Joined: Mon Feb 16, 2004 8:34 am
Location: Canada

Re: Westjet Fuel surcharge

Post by Donald »

---------- ADS -----------
 
User avatar
complexintentions
Rank 10
Rank 10
Posts: 2186
Joined: Thu Aug 19, 2004 3:49 pm
Location: of my pants is unknown.

Re: Westjet Fuel surcharge

Post by complexintentions »

From the pic in the article, it looks like the cheaper fuel has made it possible to run the -200's again! :mrgreen:
---------- ADS -----------
 
I’m still waiting for my white male privilege membership card. Must have gotten lost in the mail.
lostaviator
Rank 6
Rank 6
Posts: 440
Joined: Fri Jul 20, 2012 12:42 pm

Re: Westjet Fuel surcharge

Post by lostaviator »

Isn't one of the most basic aspects of company (not just aviation) price management supply and demand? There is no need to reduce prices when planes are flying full.
---------- ADS -----------
 
GyvAir
Rank (9)
Rank (9)
Posts: 1810
Joined: Mon Mar 12, 2012 7:09 pm

Re: Westjet Fuel surcharge

Post by GyvAir »

While they may be able to play the supply vs. demand game to their advantage at the moment, I think their PR department, or at least the spokesperson being quoted in the article are falling down on the job. Doesn’t Westjet try to promote themselves as a company that goes the extra mile to provide good value and service for their customers? This story paints them as a company whose focus is to take maximum advantage of the circumstance and by extension the customer, with no intention of sharing in the good fortune of the lower costs they’ve been unexpectedly handed. Certainly not the sort of "feel good" story that you usually see coming out of the Westjet media machine.
---------- ADS -----------
 
lostaviator
Rank 6
Rank 6
Posts: 440
Joined: Fri Jul 20, 2012 12:42 pm

Re: Westjet Fuel surcharge

Post by lostaviator »

At the end of the day it is a business and I think it is in their best interest to bank the extra money now as there is this talk of a few new airlines popping up. War chests are always good when it comes to competition. And heck, people complain but doesn't seem to be slowing them down when it comes to swiping that visa for a ticket.

There are also a few other areas that need to be addressed before cutting income. Example: encore fa's living on a salary below the poverty line.
---------- ADS -----------
 
User avatar
twinpratts
Rank (9)
Rank (9)
Posts: 1620
Joined: Tue Feb 17, 2004 5:38 am
Location: The Wild Wild West.
Contact:

Re: Westjet Fuel surcharge

Post by twinpratts »

There is no Westjet fuel surcharge.
---------- ADS -----------
 
I want to die like my grandfather did, peacefully in his sleep. Not screaming in terror like his passengers...
godsrcrazy
Rank 8
Rank 8
Posts: 847
Joined: Mon Jan 31, 2005 4:12 pm

Re: Westjet Fuel surcharge

Post by godsrcrazy »

twinpratts wrote:There is no Westjet fuel surcharge.
Then whats with this article http://www.canada.com/chilliwacktimes/s ... af7e6eb36a saying there is.
---------- ADS -----------
 
URC
Rank 4
Rank 4
Posts: 211
Joined: Mon Aug 16, 2010 1:56 pm

Re: Westjet Fuel surcharge

Post by URC »

Then whats with this article
You mean that article that was written in May of 2008. The fuel surcharge mentioned in the arcticle was removed on September 18, 2008. You're only 6.5 years behind the times, try and keep up.
---------- ADS -----------
 
godsrcrazy
Rank 8
Rank 8
Posts: 847
Joined: Mon Jan 31, 2005 4:12 pm

Re: Westjet Fuel surcharge

Post by godsrcrazy »

can't find that article maybe you can paste the link.
---------- ADS -----------
 
Benwa
Rank 8
Rank 8
Posts: 850
Joined: Sun Feb 15, 2004 8:28 pm
Location: CYQB

Re: Westjet Fuel surcharge

Post by Benwa »

godsrcrazy wrote:can't find that article maybe you can paste the link.
Try and Google Westjet September 18 2008

http://westjet2.mediaroom.com/index.php?s=43&item=64
---------- ADS -----------
 
--In his wrapup remarks, the FAA chief said, "If you think the safety bar is set too high, then your
standards are set too low."
godsrcrazy
Rank 8
Rank 8
Posts: 847
Joined: Mon Jan 31, 2005 4:12 pm

Re: Westjet Fuel surcharge

Post by godsrcrazy »

Thank you
---------- ADS -----------
 
hydro
Rank 4
Rank 4
Posts: 216
Joined: Sun Feb 15, 2004 9:53 pm

Re: Westjet Fuel surcharge

Post by hydro »

twinpratts wrote:There is no Westjet fuel surcharge.
Using MatrixITA it shows YQ charges for Westjet flights. Is that not a fuel surcharge?
The westjet site shows it as "Other Air Transportation Charge"
---------- ADS -----------
 
kevenv
Rank 7
Rank 7
Posts: 695
Joined: Thu Apr 12, 2007 6:19 am

Re: Westjet Fuel surcharge

Post by kevenv »

Found this website that seems to show that Hydro is correct;

http://www.extrapackofpeanuts.com/findi ... surcharge/

From the site "In airline speak, a fuel surcharge is represented by the code YQ."
---------- ADS -----------
 
Post Reply

Return to “General Comments”