Looking for a block rate buck 50 renting.

[Abel.DPL]

Would anybody be renting, or knows someone who could rent, a buck 50 @ block rate?
I'am a recent CPL with 200 hrs (70 on C-152) and glider pilot 300 hrs.

Thanks for the help!

[awitzke]

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[Cat Driver]

Or even better:

Instead of looking for a Cessna 150, why not a Cub or Champ or a Luscombe or a Cessna 140?

[shamrock104]

I know of one in Whitehorse.

[Pop n Fresh]

I also would like to rent a light single in southern Alberta for $1.50.

[TeePeeCreeper]

Why are you guys giving the OP such a hard time? Seriously off the high horse gentlemen please!

He asked a legit question although he left out his approximate location... Oups, shit happens!

The mention of "buck 50" rather than C-150 and that the usage of said "slang" is or would constitute any disrespect/lack of professionalism is frankly laughable at best.

TPC (and yes, renting a C150 seems boring to most of us, but that's a personal preference right?)

[HHI]

Why are you guys giving the OP such a hard time? Seriously off the high horse gentlemen please!

He asked a legit question although he left out his approximate location... Oups, shit happens!

The mention of "buck 50" rather than C-150 and that the usage of said "slang" is or would constitute any disrespect/lack of professionalism is frankly laughable at best.

TPC (and yes, renting a C150 seems boring to most of us, but that's a personal preference right?)

First impressions count.

I'm not laughing.

The perceived attitude of the OP has now left at least two posters here with a bad impression.

I do own an airplane, though not a C150 or C152 and if I were interested in someone for block time the OP would have a tough time convincing me to consider him/her.

Henry

[rob-air]

Dear defenders of professionalism,

I would like to bring to your attention that some unprofessional professionals are calling the PA-31 a ''clapped out HO'' on various pages of this forum. Please would you find these individuals and teach them a professionalism lesson.

As for the OP, try to find if some clubs or even FTU's could give you a good deal on a block time. I Have also seen many blocks on classified ads sites like kijiji. (even one on a citabria once....which I think would be a Cat approved type).

Good luck.


The oh so immature,

R-A

[awitzke]

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[Cat Driver]

Because comfort zone.

Please explain what you mean.

I'm getting a bit slow with age and can't figure out what you are saying.

[awitzke]

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[Cat Driver]

Yes I am serious, the OP has a CPL and wants to build time so why not rent a tail wheel airplane?

So, what do you mean by " comfort zone "?

[7ECA]

Cat, you know exactly why. Some people are just not comfortable flying tailwheel aircraft.

Just because we (and I use we because I, as well as yourself, have experience flying tailwheel aircraft), chose to fly them, doesn't mean that everyone has to, or should. I'd say it is probably a lot safer if the vast majority of people out there with licences stay away from tailwheel aircraft, simply because they will end up wrecking aircraft, especially if they do not get competent training.

And, one could also look at the suitability of flying tailwheel aircraft, with an eye towards future employment. Most employers just don't give a damn whether or not you have tailwheel time, when your going to . bags on the ramp, or fly something with a nose wheel, which are the vast majority of entry level jobs these days. Tailwheel flying, along with floats to a degree, have become a niche market. At least most people still respect float flying, tailwheel just doesn't seem to cut it anymore...

[Cat Driver]

Yes 7eca I understand just how dumb ed down the flying industry has become.

Light tail wheel airplanes are basic trainers and are really no more difficult to learn to fly than any other basic trainer.

So if a young pilot feels that these simple airplanes are just to hard to fly I personally would not hire them to wash airplanes, never mind fly one.

[Big Pistons Forever]

So if a young pilot feels that these simple airplanes are just to hard to fly I personally would not hire them to wash airplanes, never mind fly one.

I would suggest that virtually nobody actually hiring new pilots today would refuse to hire a CPL wannabe because they did not have tail wheel time.
If there was a choice between two 200 hr wannabe's the fact that one had tailwheel time and the other did not, would not matter as the person doing the hiring will almost certainly not have any tail wheel time themselves. Whether that is good or bad might make for a good rant on Avcanada but does not change the fact that it is the reality in todays job market.

[Cat Driver]

Regardless of the reality of today's job market flying tail wheel airplanes makes for better hands and feet control of any airplane.

It shows up even in the recurrent training of airline pilots when you get them to hand fly versus flying the computer.

However if being at the minimum flying skills is the new norm by all means go for it.

[Abel.DPL]

Okay let me try again (apologies for my lack of professionalism ) ...

I am a fresh CPL ME/IR and float rating. I did my training in Pacific flying club (BC) and Harv's Air Service (MB).
I have only 200 hours of flight which does not make me employable to most operators in Canada (or in the world for that matter).

I am looking for a block rate renting for two reasons:
-First build up 50 more hours to be legally covered by the lowest insurance policies of operators using single piston engines. Giving me a chance for example to fly C-180's for drop zones.
-Second, use this time to go around Canada to meet operators, shake hands, get contacts (etc etc). Gaining as well valuable experience.

As for the plane type I said C-152 because it is one of the cheapest planes.
Unfortunately I don't have taildrager time (I wish I had).

My hours are as follow: 70 hours on C-152
70 hours on C-172
40 hours on Pa-28
20 hours on B-95D

The location does not matter to me, I am mobile and will relocate.

Thanks again for your help.
Abel.Dpl

[esp803]

First build up 50 more hours to be legally covered by the lowest insurance policies of operators using single piston engines. Giving me a chance for example to fly C-180's for drop zones.

The only thing that 250 vs 200 hours is going to help you with is validating your IATRA, Assuming you have that written. Of all the operators that I have worked for with single engine pistons, NONE had any sort of insurance requirement beyond chief pilot checkout. Actually now that I think about it, none of the turbine aircraft I have ever flown had anything other than a chief pilot checkout requirement for insurance.

Second, use this time to go around Canada to meet operators, shake hands, get contacts (etc etc). Gaining as well valuable experience.

This is a decent idea in theory, but look at it another way:

When you get a job flying, you will fly up to three times this amount in one month AND be paid for it. In most instances 200=250 when it comes to experience. I'm not sure what the going rate is for a 150/152, but I would expect wet, it wouldn't be under 100 per hour? That's $5,000. There are many better things in life to spend $5,000 on.

I have only 200 hours of flight which does not make me employable to most operators in Canada

Don't get discouraged. We all had 200hrs at one point (including every chief pilot). Trust me, I know it sucks sending out 300 resumes and not hearing anything back. Do you know what, with a couple thousand hours, you still don't hear back as often as you might think. Spend a week doing some research on who you want to work for, while doing so remember that you don't have to settle for poverty wages and conditions, even with 200hrs. Once you have a list of operators, target them specifically, a friend of a friend is pretty much every pilot in Canada. Add another friend into that, I suspect that would cover most of the world.

Good luck, PM me if you want someone to go over your CV or Cover Letter (or for more professional help, send it to xsbank.... I assume you are still doing em?) good luck out there, it will all work out.

E

[Shiny Side Up]

There are many better things in life to spend $5,000 on.

Like what? Beer and women? You won't be that unhappy spending money on flying around.

[esp803]

Don't get me wrong, if you are renting a plane for 50 hours to have fun for 50 hours, see some of the amazing sights of North America, I'd offer to pay for gas/beer to tag along. But if the goal is to drop resumes off at Fort Somewherelake in the middle of the winter... I can think of better ways to spend 5k.

If you have the money to spare, go and have some fun, rent the airplane and try to find a job. I'd personally rather have the money in my account incase the job search isn't favorable, or I have to pay for relocation and getting restablished somewhere I have never been.

Just my .02

E

PS:

Like what? Beer and women? You won't be that unhappy spending money on flying around

Haha I wasn't thinking women and beer, I was thinking travelling the world, funding your hobbies outside of your career, investing, part of a downpayment on a house, rainy day fund, school, sports... just something that you are not going to be doing for a living for the next 40 years...

[HHI]

Okay let me try again (apologies for my lack of professionalism ) ...

I am a fresh CPL ME/IR and float rating. I did my training in Pacific flying club (BC) and Harv's Air Service (MB).
I have only 200 hours of flight which does not make me employable to most operators in Canada (or in the world for that matter).

I am looking for a block rate renting for two reasons:
-First build up 50 more hours to be legally covered by the lowest insurance policies of operators using single piston engines. Giving me a chance for example to fly C-180's for drop zones.
-Second, use this time to go around Canada to meet operators, shake hands, get contacts (etc etc). Gaining as well valuable experience.

As for the plane type I said C-152 because it is one of the cheapest planes.
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The location does not matter to me, I am mobile and will relocate.

Thanks again for your help.
Abel.Dpl

Your first post severely under-impressed this "Old Fart."

Your second post was the opposite and makes me want to cheer for you.

Different times now, but back when my CPL and Class 3 (before Class 4 had been invented) Instructor rating were barely dry... I was in a similar situation.
An "older" pilot wanted a mountain checkout on a taildragger he had just bought.
My PPL & CPL training was in an airport in the mountains and I had taildraqgger experience.
Next day he got an extensive (and free) mountain checkout and I dropped off 2 resume's in person in different parts of the province.
Didn't get me a job - but we both had a very enjoyable day.

I mailed out a suitable number of resume's and the next day departed on a job hunting cross-country.

Even at the $15/hr wet rate the C150 was to expensive for me so I hopped into my VW beetle and drove airport-to-airport. Many airports (and a few provinces) later I found myself in an office where a job had just come open. In front of the boss was a stack of resume's -- and me. That was my first job and I haven't "worked" a day from then to when I retired. :>)

I wish you the best of luck - but hope you won't need any, in getting your first job.

Probably wise to send out some resume's and then get on with your excellent plan of flying yourself around to present yourself in person as often as possible.

Good luck in finding a C150 to rent. Sure beat's a '65 VW beetle. :>)

Henry

[Pop n Fresh]

I don't regret any money spent on beer or flying. Wife and house on the other hand...

Good luck in finding a C150 to rent. Sure beat's a '65 VW beetle. :>)

Henry

Heaters are about the same.

[glorifieddriver]

I can get you in touch with a guy who has block time available on a Piper Archer (180HP). I used the plane to go down to Florida. It is a clean, comfortable and well maintained machine. Basic panel though, no GPS. I think it is in the area of around $80 or $85 an hour. Burns around 8 gallons an hour. It is a very comfortable cruiser. I think you have a cool idea to do the flight and meet operators, but from my experience flying LONG cross countries, I can tell you that it will be a real logistic nightmare. You will most likely need to rent a car or use cabs in most places, as you will likely not be able to reach all the places you want to on foot around the larger airports. Also burning all that gas to drop into a place and find out that CP is not in for this week and having to return again, might not prove to be possible if you are on a budget. It will end up costing you quite a bit. I would suggest you drive down through Canada for resume and then take the 150 down south. Do lots of research, many US FBOs offer free pilot rest rooms where you can crash and rest up for free and then take a free pilot car and head into town explore and have to fill the car up. That is all. Most places offer coffee/snacks, and most decent hotels will be under $100/night (Hilton or similar) If you sign up on a good points program you might end up getting a free night or two after the trip. So many cool airports/towns in south east USA!

[flyinhigh]

I second ESP. Back when I needed to build time, I rented a c172 on floats for about 20 hours.

During this time I took by best buds and visited all the secluded lakes in Northwestern Ontario that I thought would have some awesome fishing. To this day, that was some of the most fun that I have experienced while flying. To be able to share my 2 passions (flying and outdoors), with my child hood friends was something I will never forget.

Flying around the country to hand out resumes did not cross my mind as that is what my car is for.

good luck.

[Pop n Fresh]

Buy this http://www.chinookaircraftsales.com/cessna-150l.html you can be the guy offering block time.

Probably a better job than most in aviation. You can fly it to different cities to offer it for rent.