When do you get your fuselage de-iced 705 operators

[pelmet]

The airline flight I was on recently went to the de-ice facility due to light snow dry snow. There was a lot of fluid used on the upper fuselage. As it is not a critical surface for most aircraft, what do you typically do when there is contamination on the fuselage for varying conditions.

[dirk82]

If there is rear mounted engines like a CRJ then the upper fuselage is considered critical surface.

[Liquid Charlie]

First as you well know it's captain's choice to do the fuselage if it's not considered a critical surface for type -- as pointed out some types it is considered as critical - rear mount engines and 3 holers - we had to watch very closely in Europe because not many over there were operating steam driven aircraft and in Europe they would sneak up on you at the gate and do wings and tail forgetting we had a centre engine.

[timel]

For the fuselage, most of the time when suggested by de-icing center, usually they find the same contaminations on every aircraft.

CRJs from the states do it a lot when continuous medium snow or fz conditions (including type 1/4 all over).
Twice I heard they would request underwing type 4 as well.

Pilots more sensitive to cost request spot de-icing on the fusalage if necessary, snow does not always accumulate all over the surface, some don't want it, some get the fuselage done with type 1/4.

If there is possibility of hidden ice or ice to be removed so that it does not hit the tail during takeoff...( or gets ingested by the engine - MD11)


Most de-icing centers have big rotations of technicians with little training and experience, who do little pays, they shot ridiculous amounts for nothing.

If there is rear mounted engines like a CRJ then the upper fuselage is considered critical surface.

I believe it is automatically de-iced if requesting wing and stab only.

[pelmet]

OK, now that everybody has responded about tail-mounted engines.....

When do you get the fuselage de-iced for airliners without tail mounted engines?

[True North]

If the a/c has sat for any length of time with snow on the fuselage, get it de-iced. The heat from the cabin will warm the roof and can melt the bottom layer of snow and it can then refreeze into a layer of ice. It will come off in flight and can damage the tail.

[timel]

OK, now that everybody has responded about tail-mounted engines.....

When do you get the fuselage de-iced for airliners without tail mounted engines?

I have seen fuselage getting de-iced for no reasons and fuselage not getting de-iced at all.

Guess it is logic like the rest, if you have snow crust ice layer that might damage your tail vs some dry snow or spot slushy snow...