Who is hiring FOs right now?
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Who is hiring FOs right now?
Hello
After sending out a few rounds of resumes to most of the companies in the country I am starting to wonder if anyone is hiring FOs right now. I have received little to no response and have been told that emailing resumes is not an effective way to get a job within this industry. My network of people in aviation is small so finding a job based on who I know is a long shot. I am looking to expand my network and wondering if anyone has ideas on how to do that.
With that said - Does anyone know of companies that are currently looking for FOs or will be in the near future?
Thank you
After sending out a few rounds of resumes to most of the companies in the country I am starting to wonder if anyone is hiring FOs right now. I have received little to no response and have been told that emailing resumes is not an effective way to get a job within this industry. My network of people in aviation is small so finding a job based on who I know is a long shot. I am looking to expand my network and wondering if anyone has ideas on how to do that.
With that said - Does anyone know of companies that are currently looking for FOs or will be in the near future?
Thank you
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I'm in the same boat right now. I'm over 2000 hours but haven't received a reply to any of the dozens of resumes that I've sent out. Who you know is everything.
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So get to know some people! Emailing a resume is just the first step. Figure out where you'd be a good fit, and stay on it 'til they hire you.
Good luck guys. You can do it! If I can you can.
Good luck guys. You can do it! If I can you can.

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Just out of curiosity
What are those 2000 hours?
And for the initial post, what type experience do you have at the moment?
I would say it's the opposite . There is a huge movement in the industry right now.
Andy
What are those 2000 hours?
And for the initial post, what type experience do you have at the moment?
I would say it's the opposite . There is a huge movement in the industry right now.
Andy
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Thanks Stef! I am starting to make a list of where I think I would be a good fit. Hopefully from there I can start building a rapport with those companies.
Andy_mtl - I am sitting at around 900 hours of mainly instructor time. I have one of the ATPL exams done and I am working on the other. Sent out just over 100 resumes so I think it is time to make some calls and possibly take a road trip.
Andy_mtl - I am sitting at around 900 hours of mainly instructor time. I have one of the ATPL exams done and I am working on the other. Sent out just over 100 resumes so I think it is time to make some calls and possibly take a road trip.
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Questions to better help you include; Who were the operators you did get a response from? Do you have a multi ifr? other life experiences? what are you looking for?
From what I can garner and looking at the "Hire me" section many others are looking for jobs with your TT but bring more to the table. As I used to instruct I took a job in the right seat on a turbine prop with just over 1000 hours 2.5 years ago.
From what I can garner and looking at the "Hire me" section many others are looking for jobs with your TT but bring more to the table. As I used to instruct I took a job in the right seat on a turbine prop with just over 1000 hours 2.5 years ago.
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I did not receive any responses - only auto-replies. I hold a current multi-ifr, and have a fair amount of life experience. I am looking for a FO position on a turboprop/light jet with room for advancement within the company.
I agree that the market is flooded with people who are as qualified or more qualified than myself. Sitting just under that 1000 hour mark I realize there is a lot of leg work (networking) to get the job I want. I have already sent out many email resumes so it is time for a modified approach.
I agree that the market is flooded with people who are as qualified or more qualified than myself. Sitting just under that 1000 hour mark I realize there is a lot of leg work (networking) to get the job I want. I have already sent out many email resumes so it is time for a modified approach.
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Guys , with all the due respect I ll have to disagree with you.
900 h as instructor, have you tried wasaya? I m sure they would consider you no problem.
I know pc12 mins are 1000h min but 1900 can be a little less and caravan too.
Something tho, if you started instructing why not getting 1500 h and get your atpl?
Isn't that the best route if you choose instructing ?
That's just my assumption as I didn't go that way personally.
For the other guy with 2000 h, does that include any commercial ops experience or is that strictly instructing?
Andy
900 h as instructor, have you tried wasaya? I m sure they would consider you no problem.
I know pc12 mins are 1000h min but 1900 can be a little less and caravan too.
Something tho, if you started instructing why not getting 1500 h and get your atpl?
Isn't that the best route if you choose instructing ?
That's just my assumption as I didn't go that way personally.
For the other guy with 2000 h, does that include any commercial ops experience or is that strictly instructing?
Andy
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I know I sound like a broken record, but 11-1200 hrs is the magic number for instructing to move on. I can't tell you why. It's hard to be patient when you hit 800 or 900 hrs intructing, but from my experience, with rare exceptions, you still have to hold on for a bit.
In the last year or so, off the top of my head here is a list of where the guys from the FTU I used to work at went to, all under 1500 hours, but basically none under 1000.
Georgian
Evas
Discovery
Meadow air
Sunwest
Sander Geophysics
Thunder Airlines
Where I work, The CP's desk is littered with resumes. However, people will get hired and need to get hired due to current movement. Most of those resumes look the same, so who gets the call? The guy who WANTS IT.
A nicer resume or higher time will set you apart and likely net a call, but if you don't, what do you do?
Make a visit, make phone calls, know people's names. Simple stuff. Everyone's situation is different- you may not have the hours to be really picky with your goals, but pick a place where you can grow, ideally a place with a good reputation (My choice- which I made happen, was based on all these and I couldn't be happier) and then just Make. It. Happen.
Think about trying to meet a girl or guy at a party. How far are you going to get if you hide in a corner and try to throw crumpled up notes? Somebody's taking lefty to the dance tonight......
In the last year or so, off the top of my head here is a list of where the guys from the FTU I used to work at went to, all under 1500 hours, but basically none under 1000.
Georgian
Evas
Discovery
Meadow air
Sunwest
Sander Geophysics
Thunder Airlines
Where I work, The CP's desk is littered with resumes. However, people will get hired and need to get hired due to current movement. Most of those resumes look the same, so who gets the call? The guy who WANTS IT.
A nicer resume or higher time will set you apart and likely net a call, but if you don't, what do you do?
Make a visit, make phone calls, know people's names. Simple stuff. Everyone's situation is different- you may not have the hours to be really picky with your goals, but pick a place where you can grow, ideally a place with a good reputation (My choice- which I made happen, was based on all these and I couldn't be happier) and then just Make. It. Happen.
Think about trying to meet a girl or guy at a party. How far are you going to get if you hide in a corner and try to throw crumpled up notes? Somebody's taking lefty to the dance tonight......
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Have you had someone proof read your CV and Cover Letter? A second set of eyes can do wonders. Try xsbank, he's quite efficient and produces very nice resumes. I tend to avoid PCC's service as it's quite a "noisy" resume.
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Greetings. As posted in the thread ''Massive Hiring...FINALLY'' started by myself, the ''hiring factories'' officially start right now. What I mean by hiring factories, I mean alot of hiring. To shorten what I have said in the other thread, it all goes down to numbers. The big players and regionals: AC, Jazz, GGN, Sky are those responsible for a pretty big movement starting now....until Summer 2016 and beyond. Here are a few numbers
AC - Needs: Approx: 170 pilots for Summer 2016. Cause = New B787, B777
Groundschool classes: Every month except December. About 20 candidates per class. One per month until March 2016 for now.
Jazz - Feeder to AC. 2 Groundschools per Month for foreseeable future. Probably until May 2016; count about 14 candidates per Groundschool. Follows the flow of people out to Air Canada.
SkyRegional - Needs 108 pilots by Summer 2016. Cause = 5 New Emb175 and Flow of people to AC
GGN - Groundschools currently running for the CRJ. Alot of people want to leave apparently.
So yes the movement is starting and many will be looking to hire this winter. Now be careful!! Because of this fast pace, a lot of companies will not have time to post online and will revert to taking resumes from its stack, or for the first person that shows interest (by calling or constantly sends resumes). I have gotten a couple of calls a couple of months ago from places that never posted online. I've heard a few times where usually when places post online, they already filed the spots, its just for legal reasons why the post. Personal experience.
AC - Needs: Approx: 170 pilots for Summer 2016. Cause = New B787, B777
Groundschool classes: Every month except December. About 20 candidates per class. One per month until March 2016 for now.
Jazz - Feeder to AC. 2 Groundschools per Month for foreseeable future. Probably until May 2016; count about 14 candidates per Groundschool. Follows the flow of people out to Air Canada.
SkyRegional - Needs 108 pilots by Summer 2016. Cause = 5 New Emb175 and Flow of people to AC
GGN - Groundschools currently running for the CRJ. Alot of people want to leave apparently.
So yes the movement is starting and many will be looking to hire this winter. Now be careful!! Because of this fast pace, a lot of companies will not have time to post online and will revert to taking resumes from its stack, or for the first person that shows interest (by calling or constantly sends resumes). I have gotten a couple of calls a couple of months ago from places that never posted online. I've heard a few times where usually when places post online, they already filed the spots, its just for legal reasons why the post. Personal experience.
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I imagine if you add attrition to the numbers above (specifically sky regional), it will turn out to be way more than 108 by Summer of 2016. Aren't you guys losing like 10 or so / month between AC and and attrition elsewhere? Or has that number slowed down now that there's a retention program with AC?Sky_Conqueror wrote:
SkyRegional - Needs 108 pilots by Summer 2016. Cause = 5 New Emb175 and Flow of people to AC
GGN - Groundschools currently running for the CRJ. Alot of people want to leave apparently.
Don't forget to add to the mix Sunwing/Air Transat's hiring in addition to your EK, Fly Dubai, Qatar, Etihad, Eva Air for people taking their jet time overseas. Again a lot of rumors that sky regional guys are exiting to these companies overseas as well.
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Hi there Loopa. I heard the hard 108 number from a reliable source of mine in the company. Now If the 108 transforms into something greater then that would be awesome! Now you may be right as the number might fluctuate with the number of attrition. Usually that can vary between a + or - 10 to 13 percent for normal cases. But as of now the numbers on paper indicate 108. Then again this was a month ago so that might or might not have changed.
In regards to the Flow to AC, as stated on my other thread, I am aware that with the new agreement some have indicated that 80% of pilots would come from Jazz. And the rest would come either from other AC related regionals or freelance applicants. I am not aware of how many are fleeing Sky, but I have read rumours that Jazz has a policy of 15 allowed pilot departures per month. So this explains the constant hiring there will be until Summer 2016.
Air Transat has a groundschool starting November 2nd. But the numbers have decreased since this summer. I believe there are 4 new hires for the November class.
As for they major international airlines, I unfortunately have no numbers and those numbers are probably going to be hard to track. As not a huge flow of people compared to what we see with AC will go. This case makes it harder to build predictions.
In regards to the Flow to AC, as stated on my other thread, I am aware that with the new agreement some have indicated that 80% of pilots would come from Jazz. And the rest would come either from other AC related regionals or freelance applicants. I am not aware of how many are fleeing Sky, but I have read rumours that Jazz has a policy of 15 allowed pilot departures per month. So this explains the constant hiring there will be until Summer 2016.
Air Transat has a groundschool starting November 2nd. But the numbers have decreased since this summer. I believe there are 4 new hires for the November class.
As for they major international airlines, I unfortunately have no numbers and those numbers are probably going to be hard to track. As not a huge flow of people compared to what we see with AC will go. This case makes it harder to build predictions.
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Yes, I have worked with him on his resume, it is fine. Unless he's changed it since I last saw it. He is listening to too much negative advice and needs to focus his attention and strive to create his own luck!esp803 wrote:Have you had someone proof read your CV and Cover Letter? A second set of eyes can do wonders. Try xsbank, he's quite efficient and produces very nice resumes. I tend to avoid PCC's service as it's quite a "noisy" resume.
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One trouble he's having, and I can sympathize with personally, is that he needs to break out of his shell. He is a self admitted introvert and having trouble breaking through the barrier to make phone calls or visits etc.
I have made suggestions but maybe others here can give their thoughts on how to get past a receptionist to speak with a CP or Ops manager. That is a real and really important skill to have.
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I once walked in with a couple of coffees and asked to speak to the Ops manager. It must have looked like I had an appointment since they didn't give me any trouble.cdnpilot77 wrote: I have made suggestions but maybe others here can give their thoughts on how to get past a receptionist to speak with a CP or Ops manager. That is a real and really important skill to have.
I can certainly sympathise with the OP...I suppose you could call me an introvert as well. I found that by writing down a couple talking points before making a call helped a little. Cold calling companies was, and still is very challenging for me.
I would also suggest stopping by an employment office. We have a Community Employment Services office near me, and I spent several hours there with them reworking my cover letter and resume. It didn't cost me anything. I found that their writing style was more suited for government applications, but with a little adjustment you should be able to make it more suited to our industry.
Good luck, the job hunt can be challenging.
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I think the hardest receptionist in the world to get through is the one lady at Transwest Air. I've succeeded in alot of places to get through but she is a tough one. It seems her new excuse of: ''He is in a meeting'' is the one she uses now.
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There is a lot of great advice above, thank you! Going back to instructing really isn't an option right now. Looks like I will need try a little harder in the hiring process to offset being under the sweet spot for hours. Being an introvert will make it challenging but it is good to hear methods how other people have worked with that.
All the hiring at the companies above makes it seem like that "pilot shortage" is finally here.
I have made a list of companies and contact numbers from PCC. Does anyone know if the recruitment personnel is updated frequently and accurate? Transwest is on my list of numbers but maybe I will save them until I learn the best method to get the CPs on the phone.
All the hiring at the companies above makes it seem like that "pilot shortage" is finally here.

I have made a list of companies and contact numbers from PCC. Does anyone know if the recruitment personnel is updated frequently and accurate? Transwest is on my list of numbers but maybe I will save them until I learn the best method to get the CPs on the phone.
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Re: Who is hiring FOs right now?
TT is important but Multi time was just as or even more important than the TT. Hopefully you are multi instructing. The higher the multi the more FO options will present themselves.
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Skyregional hired at least 2 instructors into the Embraer in the current groundschool. I would apply there.
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For the introvert, make yourself call a bunch of places where you don't want to work. You'll be used to the conversation soon enough and can move on to where you care about.
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I know its not cool to be bashing...but when I hear of instructors with no 703/704/705 operation, with only C172 time getting into groundschools flying a trubojet....it enrages me. Yes you guys will say that life isnt fair and add a ''its-not-who-you-know-but-who-you-blow'' type comment.
Its like if I was saying that I went to: a Ferrari dealership just few minutes after passing my beginners drivers license test and purchasing a Ferrari Enzo (at the time) for only 10,000$. Sounds fair? Would make a shitstorm in the media and in the professional drivers circle. Well...this is how I feel right now.
Its like if I was saying that I went to: a Ferrari dealership just few minutes after passing my beginners drivers license test and purchasing a Ferrari Enzo (at the time) for only 10,000$. Sounds fair? Would make a shitstorm in the media and in the professional drivers circle. Well...this is how I feel right now.
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Any idea how many hours they had?x15 wrote:Skyregional hired at least 2 instructors direct from the Cessna 172 into the Embraer in the current groundschool. I would apply there.
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Be thankful thats as far as you got.Save your time with that company you,ll work the ramp for years and get no where with them.Sky_Conqueror wrote:I think the hardest receptionist in the world to get through is the one lady at Transwest Air. I've succeeded in alot of places to get through but she is a tough one. It seems her new excuse of: ''He is in a meeting'' is the one she uses now.
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For those of you who are not comfortable walking up and introducing yourself, or making cold calls, it is a skill you can learn. Teach something; get in front of a class. Go to Toastmasters; learn to make speeches. Join a political party and make cold calls.
Those who are not afraid to be outgoing may not be doing it well. It's just another skill like crosswind landings.
Join a theatre group. Organize an event. Volunteer at a Community Centre or some sort of hospital.
Those who are not afraid to be outgoing may not be doing it well. It's just another skill like crosswind landings.
Join a theatre group. Organize an event. Volunteer at a Community Centre or some sort of hospital.
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