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Enerjet and the refugees

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http://calgaryherald.com/news/local-new ... -to-canada
A local charter airline is offering to fly Syrian refugees to Canada, saying it’s critical the community step up and help victims of war escape danger.

Enerjet, Canada’s youngest charter airline based in Calgary, has contacted federal immigration officials in hopes of using both of its Boeing 737, 148-seater planes to bring refugees here.

“We are aware of the government’s promise to relocate 25,000 refugees, and we know that will involve an incredible amount of travel,” said Darcy Morgan, chief commercial officer with Enerjet.

“We can fly anywhere in the world, and we know it’s important to do the right thing.

“These are innocent people who are victims of war and terror, and they deserve to leave and lead an innocent life.”

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, enroute to Manila Tuesday for the Asia-Pacific Economic Co-operation summit, reiterated his promise to accept 25,000 Syrian refugees in the next six weeks, even after some provincial and municipal leaders said they were worried about speed taking priority over security.

“It didn’t take the tragedy in Paris for us to suddenly realize that security’s important,” Trudeau said. “We’ve known for a long time, and we continue to be very much committed to keeping Canadians safe while we do the right thing to engage responsibly on this humanitarian crisis.”

While Saskatchewan premier Brad Wall called for a suspension of the Liberal plan, worried that terrorists might sneak into the country, Alberta Premier Rachel Notley disagreed, emphasizing this province could take 2,500 to 3,000 Syrian refugees.

New security concerns are being raised around accepting refugees after terrorist attacks in Paris last Friday killed 129 people and injured another 350 at several locations including bars, restaurants, a concert hall and the national stadium.

European officials have only confirmed that suspects identified so far are French and Belgium nationals, and Morgan stressed that those who are critical of helping refugees need to seek out better information.

“I understand that in the absence of facts and knowledge, fear can displace common sense. Fear can be a mighty motivator,” he said.

“But I’m confident that once these people get more information and facts, the fear will be displaced.”

Morgan said while he waits for word back from federal immigration on the offer he made about a week ago, he spoke with newly elected Calgary Liberal MP Kent Hehr about the idea.

Hehr, who is Minister of Veterans Affairs and does not deal directly with immigration, said he is confident the federal government is looking closely at the Enerjet offer.

“We’re assessing all our options to get Syrian refugees into Canada, and speed up getting people here safely.

“It is our obligation as Canadians to help out. And it’s a great thing that a Calgary company has stepped up like this.”

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Probably pretty desperate for a cash infusion as they mostly sit on the ground at YYC. If they are offering this for free forgive my ignorance.
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Highly doubt it will free, someone will be paying, most likely real canadians...
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As opposed the the fake ones?
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Shouldn't Notley be a little more concerned of the economic crisis and deficit of her own constituents?
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cdnpilot77 wrote:Shouldn't Notley be a little more concerned of the economic crisis and deficit of her own constituents?
Maybe. I for one am able to think about more than one thing in any given sleep/wake cycle. Maybe she is, too. Maybe she's even able to make statements about one thing on the same day as she is concerned about another thing! I'm sure you can do it too. I've seen lots of guys (especially in Alberta) try to talk and chew food at the same time. That's a form of multi-tasking.
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:roll: What a desperate attempt at cashing-in....

Is this one of Morgan's companies? How is it even still around?
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Meatservo wrote:
cdnpilot77 wrote:Shouldn't Notley be a little more concerned of the economic crisis and deficit of her own constituents?
Maybe. I for one am able to think about more than one thing in any given sleep/wake cycle. Maybe she is, too. Maybe she's even able to make statements about one thing on the same day as she is concerned about another thing! I'm sure you can do it too. I've seen lots of guys (especially in Alberta) try to talk and chew food at the same time. That's a form of multi-tasking.
It was more of a statement regarding bringing In and supporting 2500-3500 refugees when there are a significant number of Albertans un-employed or under-employed already with the price of oil where it's at. So, let's saturate the market further?
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Oh come on, if Westjet announced this first everyone on here would be saying how great they are and blah blah blah.

Good for enerjet to publicly step up.

But you know what really grinds my gears? When douche bag, redneck, ignorant losers (who only exist because of immigration) say something like this:
Cessna driver wrote:Highly doubt it will free, someone will be paying, most likely real canadians...
Real Canadians? Are you referring to native Americans? Or are you referring to yourself as a "real Canadian". If you're not native then you are a product of immigration, so check yourself. Likely your family, as did mine, came to this great country to start a new life. Now just a few generations later you call yourself a "real Canadian". In my opinion a real Canadian remembers where they came from, has a knowledge of their families history and the hardships they faced coming to this great country. A real Canadian knows that without immigration they would not be here. A real Canadian reaches his hand out to help someone else up. These 25000 immigrants, fleeing war and torture, they won't be burdens on our system. Short term there will be a cost, long term they will contribute just as much or maybe more than you or I. Real Canadians, yup real Canadians will pay the cost of their travel, real Canadians will pay for their health care and education, real Canadians will help them financially as they're coming here with nothing, and real Canadians will do this with pleasure. Hypocritical assholes will complain about.
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I hate when people compare being unemployed in Canada to having your home and family bombed and then moving your family to live in a tent in a new country with only the possessions you could carry while the world eyes you suspiciously like your a terrorist.

When I was growing up I was taught that Canada was a country known for its peace keeping and humanitarian work, but I haven't seen much of that in the last decade. I think this is an excellent opportunity to regain that reputation. Sure this may be a publicity stunt for enerjet, but I have no problem with that.
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Maybe Alberta is running out of Philipino staff for McDonalds and timmies ? I agree that Enerjet NEEDS some business. Bean counters there would be shitting bricks if management offered flights for FREE. NO one does anything for free, there are always tangible or intangible perceived benefits!
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Real Canadians? Are you referring to native Americans? Or are you referring to yourself as a "real Canadian". If you're not native then you are a product of immigration, so check yourself. Likely your family, as did mine, came to this great country to start a new life. Now just a few generations later you call yourself a "real Canadian". In my opinion a real Canadian remembers where they came from, has a knowledge of their families history and the hardships they faced coming to this great country. A real Canadian knows that without immigration they would not be here. A real Canadian reaches his hand out to help someone else up. These 25000 immigrants, fleeing war and torture, they won't be burdens on our system. Short term there will be a cost, long term they will contribute just as much or maybe more than you or I. Real Canadians, yup real Canadians will pay the cost of their travel, real Canadians will pay for their health care and education, real Canadians will help them financially as they're coming here with nothing, and real Canadians will do this with pleasure. Hypocritical assholes will complain about.
A "real" Canadian puts Canada and its culture and beliefs and humanitarianism and charity FIRST ! There are MANY people who live and work in Canada who have NEVER considered Canada "home" and hold their allegiance to their "home" country. MULTICULTURALISM is a LIE and a sham! Bringing incompatible immigrants into this country for economic stimulation is a LIE ( As if Canadians cannot have their own children ) I am married to a person who is from an asian country, I am far from a racist, but I am rather a REALIST! Look at sweden and France as examples of a FAILED attempt at integration and multiculturalism,,,,or was that calculated implosion for NWO purposes???
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Oh, you guys are talking about OLD STOCK Canadians. Right. Now I got it.
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crazyaviator wrote: MULTICULTURALISM is a LIE and a sham! Bringing incompatible immigrants into this country for economic stimulation is a LIE ( As if Canadians cannot have their own children ) I am married to a person who is from an asian country, I am far from a racist, but I am rather a REALIST! Look at sweden and France as examples of a FAILED attempt at integration and multiculturalism,,,,or was that calculated implosion for NWO purposes???
Look at Sweden and France? Open your eyes and look closer to home, if you want to talk about failed integration I would say Europeans coming to the Americas is at the top of the charts. It's hypocritical of any Canadian to complain about immigration when the majority are 3-4 generations deep. My grandparents from both my mother and fathers side came to canada to farm and log. Both families were given land by the federal government, both families became very successful, both families remained tied to their heritage but are greatful to be Canadian.

I'm curious, how do you catagorise "incompatible immigrants"? Is it a specific race that is "incompatible"?
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I would bet my old Jepp bag that the RCAF Heavy Lift C17's will be bringing them over and there will mostlikly be no need for expensive charter AC. They will be deadheading back empty anyway from dropping of Ammo..
Wouldn't that be a better use of your tax dollars?
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That would be a better use of my taxes, however this will be a rush job and who knows what "baggage" some of these refugees will bring, send em all to Trudumb's house to live.
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Prodriver wrote:I would bet my old Jepp bag that the RCAF Heavy Lift C17's will be bringing them over and there will mostlikly be no need for expensive charter AC. They will be deadheading back empty anyway from dropping of Ammo..
Wouldn't that be a better use of your tax dollars?
I will take that bet. I bet it will at the very least be a combination of CAF/Contractor aircraft or all contractor aircraft
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Cessna driver wrote:That would be a better use of my taxes, however this will be a rush job and who knows what "baggage" some of these refugees will bring, send em all to Trudumb's house to live.
I'm not sure if you are just trolling or if you actually believe what you are saying. If it's the latter I feel sorry for you. "Baggage" Really?
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[quote=crazy aviator] or was that calculated implosion for NWO purposes???[/quote]

Crazy,
you should lay off inhaling so much of the the chemtrails - didn't the Joo lizards at the Bilderberg meeting tell you that the fumes, when combined with the HAARP radiation, are really hazardous to your clarity of thought?
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I'm all for helping these people BUT there will be issues in the future. Most don't want to be here,they want to be home. Most will call Canada home but a certain % will get that Canadian passport then go home when able. Then when trouble brews again they hold up the passport and demand to be rescued.
I think the Gov is trying to close this loophole but it's going to happen.
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"Hey, I know the Syrian refugees don't have it so good right now, but shouldn't we be making sure everyone over here is taken care of first?"

Now replace "Syrian" with "Jewish" and go back a few years.

Condemning people to a hellish life or a likely death just because life isn't perfect "over here" sounds just as ignorant in both contexts.

"Yeah well I don't want any terrorists slipping in."

750,000 refugees have settled in the USA since 9/11 and none have been arrested on terrorism charges. If terrorists want to get in they'll try the same ways they have in the past.

"Whatever, I'm just trying to keep my family safe."

So are the refugees.
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mattjvancouver wrote:750,000 refugees have settled in the USA since 9/11 and none have been arrested on terrorism charges. If terrorists want to get in they'll try the same ways they have in the past.
That is just a wildly inaccurate statement. You may recall a pair of brothers who were in the US as refugees, the Tsarnaev's. Had been granted a fresh start were attending university getting an education and still killed innocent Americans at the Boston Marathon.
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/hol ... 37734bb934

France Is Still Accepting 30,000 Refugees While Some U.S. Governors Want To Ban Them
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Roar wrote:
mattjvancouver wrote:750,000 refugees have settled in the USA since 9/11 and none have been arrested on terrorism charges. If terrorists want to get in they'll try the same ways they have in the past.
That is just a wildly inaccurate statement. You may recall a pair of brothers who were in the US as refugees, the Tsarnaev's. Had been granted a fresh start were attending university getting an education and still killed innocent Americans at the Boston Marathon.
The pair of brothers who bombed the Boston Marathon in 2013 were not refugees. They were, on the contrary, children of an asylee, according to the State Department, and the distinction is crucial.

Strictly speaking, they were the children of asylees. As Bloomberg News explained the two were given “derivative asylum status” and didn’t come through the refugee admissions program. Apparently the legal distinction is too fine a point.
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The 737 isn't really the aircraft for the job. I'm sure Enerjet is out looking for opportunities, and good for them for trying to drum up business when they see an opportunity. As mentioned, we have the C17's and Air Canada/Transat with appropriate aircraft for the job should they be needed.
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