Cherokee Six bent in YPL?
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Cherokee Six bent in YPL?
My sources say airplane may have hit inverted? Nice WX. Light winds.
I hear no fatalities. OUCH!
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I hear no fatalities. OUCH!
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Re: Cherokee Six bent in YPL?
It was the talk of the town today (on company). That said, I don't have too much to add - all I know is that 1) it may have been N-registered, 2) plane looked as if it was a write-off, and 3) all 6 (or 7?... radio was busy) people made it out without any significant injuries. Would be curious to know what happened, was beautiful out today.
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Re: Cherokee Six bent in YPL?
Heard engine. Might have turned back and lost it. Pure speculation here. Really happy everybody's okay.
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Re: Cherokee Six bent in YPL?
Aircraft crashed on the side of the runway on takeoff....engine quit and it came down hard...6 pax no injuries. Plane ended up upside down with wings broken off...miracle nobody was killed or injured
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Re: Cherokee Six bent in YPL?
The FAA database says the owners work in mircales to some extent. Glad everyone's safe.AEROMONKEY wrote:miracle nobody was killed or injured
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Re: Cherokee Six bent in YPL?
Somebody's working in miracles. No doubt on that one.Changes in Latitudes wrote:The FAA database says the owners work in mircales to some extent. Glad everyone's safe.AEROMONKEY wrote:miracle nobody was killed or injured
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Re: Cherokee Six bent in YPL?
Does the curl in the tip of the prop blade indicated power was being developed at ground contact?
In any case, as I have expressed before, it continues to worry me that some pilots fly too slowly after liftoff in non short takeoffs. I know nothing more than what has been presented here, but: If the plane crashed beside the same runway from which it departed, obviously runway length was less a concern, so unlikely a steep, slow climbout was needed. If this were a turn back, or the plane in the bush outside the airport bondaries, the discussion would be different). If airborne from an airport runway of adequate or more length, the departure path available should not really be a concern, certainly within the airport boundaries, so the departure climb should be maintained such that a safe glide return is possible from as much of it, if not all, as possible.
When flying an initial climb out more slowly, you could have put the airplane into a phase of flight like the "height velocity avoid curve" for a helicopter, from which a safe glide return cannot be made. You hit the ground before you can establish a glide from which a flared landing can be made. Again, I watched several pilots steeply and slowly depart very long runways this past weekend, and thought to myself "has this pilot considered the fact that from right there, they could not safely glide back?".
This self created hazard seems to be entirely un taught, unless you take helicopter training.....
In any case, as I have expressed before, it continues to worry me that some pilots fly too slowly after liftoff in non short takeoffs. I know nothing more than what has been presented here, but: If the plane crashed beside the same runway from which it departed, obviously runway length was less a concern, so unlikely a steep, slow climbout was needed. If this were a turn back, or the plane in the bush outside the airport bondaries, the discussion would be different). If airborne from an airport runway of adequate or more length, the departure path available should not really be a concern, certainly within the airport boundaries, so the departure climb should be maintained such that a safe glide return is possible from as much of it, if not all, as possible.
When flying an initial climb out more slowly, you could have put the airplane into a phase of flight like the "height velocity avoid curve" for a helicopter, from which a safe glide return cannot be made. You hit the ground before you can establish a glide from which a flared landing can be made. Again, I watched several pilots steeply and slowly depart very long runways this past weekend, and thought to myself "has this pilot considered the fact that from right there, they could not safely glide back?".
This self created hazard seems to be entirely un taught, unless you take helicopter training.....
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Re: Cherokee Six bent in YPL?
From the look of the pic, and its been awhile since I've had the pleasure of operating off of YPL, he would have been taking off toward the lake, which (depending where he is) may have removed the option to land straight ahead.
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Re: Cherokee Six bent in YPL?
Same here, although it is in the hang glider realm,,,seems to be an instinctive habit!it continues to worry me that some pilots fly too slowly after liftoff in non short takeoffs