US radio call

[rotorspeed]

I'm asking in case I fly to the US. In initial call to station or ground in fx Cessna 172 do they just announce aircraft type such as Cessna only or do they say 172 as well

[Redneck_pilot86]

I'm asking in case I fly to the US. In initial call to station or ground in fx Cessna 172 do they just announce aircraft type such as Cessna only or do they say 172 as well

I rarely hear "cessna 172", what they tend to use is "skyhawk" or whatever the name of the type is. Most controllers I've talked to near the border are used to Canadians saying "Cessna 172", and it also gives them a bit of an idea that the ident coming is not an N registration and lets them know to pay attention. Be prepared for clearances such as "number 2 to the skyhawk in the downwind" or similar.

[rotorspeed]

Ok thanks

[Canadian Skyhawk]

The correct radio call if flying your 172 in the USA is "XXX Centre, Canadian Skyhawk C-GXYZ".

[linecrew]

Taken from another thread about radio calls, this is handy:

[ahramin]

The correct radio call if flying your 172 in the USA is "XXX Centre, Canadian Skyhawk C-GXYZ".

Reference?

[Canadian Skyhawk]

Reference: FAA Order JO7110.65W effective Dec.10, 2015, section 2-4-20 b.1.

"Civil. State the aircraft type or the manufacturer’s
name followed by the letters/numbers of the
aircraft registration, or state the letters or digits of the
aircraft registration or call sign.
EXAMPLE−
“Stationair F−L−R−B.”
“C−F−L−R−B.” "

While it is not necessary to state "Canadian" as the prefix, it has been my experience that is accepted practice in the field. It also immediately cuts through any confusion on the controller's part, confusion which is proportional to one's distance south from the 45th parallel (or 49th for Westerners).

[5x5]

So what do you say if you're in a Cessna 150/152? I've heard Cessna 172 lots in the States and there doesn't seem to be any confusion. Certainly you do hear Skyhawk more, but either would work just fine.

One big difference is you won't be cleared left or right downwind, they will say "Make left traffic". Uncontrolled airport you will report "Ident, left traffic for rwy XX" rather than "Ident, left downwind for rwy XX" Oh yeah, and rwy 0x will be simply rwy x for any runway less than 10.

[ahramin]

So the correct radio call would be "XXX Center, Skyhawk C-GXYZ" or "XXX Center, Cessna 172 C-GXYZ" then?

[readyou5by5]

This is what I would use.

[photofly]

While I appreciate the debate about preparing the quintessentially perfect trans-national radio call to ATC as much as any one else, I'd spend less time worrying about that and more time worrying about flying the airplane better.

[Canadian Skyhawk]

+1.

And don't forget the other details, like making sure your return flight plan filed in Canada has been received by American controllers, properly completing the eApis, advising CBSA before you cross the border onyour return and making sure you land at an AOE that is open at your time of arrival. You know, just to avoid any unnecessary encounter with unhappy uniformed guys carrying guns....especially south of the border!

[SuperchargedRS]

Approach Cessna C-ABC 3 nm north of XYZ, the C kinda gives away the Canadian part.

[co-joe]

Approach Cessna C-ABC 3 nm north of XYZ, the C kinda gives away the Canadian part.

You'd think, but I've had them reply November Charlie ABC.


The weird call for me was in Great Falls, which was "make left for runway 07".

[CpnCrunch]

Approach Cessna C-ABC 3 nm north of XYZ, the C kinda gives away the Canadian part.

You'd think, but I've had them reply November Charlie ABC.


The weird call for me was in Great Falls, which was "make left for runway 07".

Presumably you should be giving the full callsign initially, C-GABC.

[Prodriver]

Reference: FAA Order JO7110.65W effective Dec.10, 2015, section 2-4-20 b.1.

"Civil. State the aircraft type or the manufacturer’s
name followed by the letters/numbers of the
aircraft registration, or state the letters or digits of the
aircraft registration or call sign.
EXAMPLE−
“Stationair F−L−R−B.”
“C−F−L−R−B.” "

While it is not necessary to state "Canadian" as the prefix, it has been my experience that is accepted practice in the field. It also immediately cuts through any confusion on the controller's part, confusion which is proportional to one's distance south from the 45th parallel (or 49th for Westerners).

I fly a great deal in the US and I don't hear "Canadian" very much and it is not IMHO accepted practice, just bad airmanship. C=Charlie not Canadian and I cringe when I hear it, makes one thing of Gaylord/Reginald in "Smokie and the Bandit"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjR8YrNUDTs

[5x5]

Co-joe, I really doubt they said 07.

[co-joe]

Co-joe, I really doubt they said 07.

Probably right. The day was Oct 5, 1997 according to my logbook.xls, I barely remember what I had for breakfast yesterday. Doesn't change the story though.

[Cessna 180]

I've had no problems saying either just the tail number (charlie golf alpha bravo xray). sometimes I added "diamondstar" or "skyhawk." They don't seem to care but they may ask aircraft type. I've also had controllers abbreviate my tail number that ends in an I or O to 1 or 0 (i.e. 0AB).