Commuter plane crash in Winnipeg?

Sulako · Post by **Sulako** » Thu Oct 06, 2005 4:48 am

from cjob.com:

A light plane has crashed in Osborne Village. Emergency crews are on the scene. The crash happened just before 6 am.

blond374 · Post by **blond374** » Thu Oct 06, 2005 4:58 am

C208 operated for Fedex
1 SOB female
enroute to TBay

Cargodog · Post by **Cargodog** » Thu Oct 06, 2005 5:14 am

Any word on the status?

bschalme · Post by **bschalme** » Thu Oct 06, 2005 5:28 am

CJOB Radio is reporting she died. http://www.cjob.com/news/index.aspx?src=loc&rem=20255.

My heart goes out to her family and friends.

switchflicker · Post by **switchflicker** » Thu Oct 06, 2005 6:00 am

Fed-Ex light cargo plane crashed in Winnipeg this morning killing the female pilot, the only person on board. It happened in Osborne Village with the plane hitting the railway tracks behind the Masonic Temple in a ball of flames.
Trevor Mueller saw the crash. He was waiting in his car across the river at the Winnipeg Rowing Club. He called 911.

(play audio clip)

Robin Alford of the Winnipeg Fire Paramedic Service says one unit remains on the scene to assist investigators from Transport Canada. Other than that, Alford says all other units have returned to the station.

CJOB's Barry Burns reporting.

KAG · Post by **KAG** » Thu Oct 06, 2005 6:34 am

Please as soon as anyone knows the name of the pilot please PM me. I know a women whom I used to work with years ago at Perimeter and back east who flew for them back in 2001 flying that route. Not sure if she is still there... last I heard she was

My heart goes out to the family.

Meso · Post by **Meso** » Thu Oct 06, 2005 6:47 am

KAG
I think I know who you mean, I believe she has gone to YQM doing the same job there for Fedex. I hope.

Cargodog · Post by **Cargodog** » Thu Oct 06, 2005 6:54 am

I believe the C208s are operated by Morningstar in Canada. They have 6 C208s on the OC, all with C-FEX in in the reggie.

Doc · Post by **Doc** » Thu Oct 06, 2005 6:55 am

Is that a Morning Star run? Bad news. My thoughts are with her family and friends.

Axial Flow · Post by **Axial Flow** » Thu Oct 06, 2005 7:58 am

Thoughts and prayers.......God Speed

No Conflict · Post by **No Conflict** » Thu Oct 06, 2005 8:00 am

thoughts and prayers to Friends and Family....

STH · Post by **STH** » Thu Oct 06, 2005 8:06 am

My Thoughts and Prayers to Her Family and Friends.

Godspeed

Guest295 · Post by **Guest295** » Thu Oct 06, 2005 8:17 am

The Cessna Caravan has had 25 fatalities in 7 separate accidents in Canada. How long will the government keep allowing single engine IFR operations in Canada? What cost is required before someone says enough is enough?

just curious · Post by **just curious** » Thu Oct 06, 2005 8:25 am

Guest.
Wait until the investigation is complete before you start preaching on an emotional thread.
The cause is there, and they'll find it. And they'll announce it. Till then, speculation does nothing but aggravate an anguished situation.

Jug · Post by **Jug** » Thu Oct 06, 2005 8:25 am

Guest295,

Show some respect please. This tragedy is only 4 hours old.

Axial Flow · Post by **Axial Flow** » Thu Oct 06, 2005 8:28 am

Exactly! Not the time or place !

Scuba_Steve · Post by **Scuba_Steve** » Thu Oct 06, 2005 8:30 am

THis is very sad news, I was on approach to 36 (vectors for the LOC) when I heard her request a return to the airport due to ice. The was the last call. We waited a few very long silent minutes while ATC vectored us around into a hold until they said she had indeed gone down around confusion corners. I've spent most of the morning hoping to hear she was ok

Some speculation weather had a role but it wasn't that bad by my estimation although we were south of the airport and she had just departed to the north of 36, at 3000 ft we were clear of cloud and ice and only picked up light rime on the approach.

My condolences to her Friends and family.

fly girl 05 · Post by **fly girl 05** » Thu Oct 06, 2005 8:40 am

. Originally from Moncton. Anyone know her? was she living here?

//name edited by Sulako. Let the news announce it first.

marktheone · Post by **marktheone** » Thu Oct 06, 2005 8:47 am

My condolences to her family. I assume there is no hope remaining?

CID · Post by **CID** » Thu Oct 06, 2005 8:52 am

Ah...another "Guest" who creates an AvCanada account just to blather. Without knowing the true cause of the accident there is really no sense in bringing up SEIFR.

Start a new thread if you want to open that can of worms again.

I saw video of the wreckage this morning on TV. I don't think anyone could have survived. It's quite a tangled mess.

Cat Driver · Post by **Cat Driver** » Thu Oct 06, 2005 9:04 am

What a sad way for everyone to have to start the day.

Somehow when someone dies flying for a living it just hurts more than one would expect.

Of course the real reason is because we can in our own minds live those last few desperate moments that these poor young pilots struggle to get down safe.

Cat

Axial Flow · Post by **Axial Flow** » Thu Oct 06, 2005 9:25 am

A bit of an update on the Canada.com site.
There is a statement from MorningStar on Canada.com

The Cessna was owned by Morningstar Air Express of Edmonton and was under contract to Federal Express, said Morningstar spokesman Don Boettcher.

The fully loaded, single-engine turboprop plane crashed while it "appeared to be attempting to return to the Winnipeg airport," Boettcher said.

Boettcher could release few details about the pilot.

"She'd been with us for about five years now," he said.

The plane dated from the early 1990s.

loopy · Post by **loopy** » Thu Oct 06, 2005 9:27 am

My sincerest condolences to family and friends.

nite_owl · Post by **nite_owl** » Thu Oct 06, 2005 9:32 am

A sad day indeed. Godspeed to her.

A note to those who knew her, please give people the opportunity to notify her family before announcing her name to the masses. I'm certain they would rather find out through the proper channels than through some offhand comment or remark. This means you, fly girl 05.

Heartfelt condolences to her family.

No more BS · Post by **No more BS** » Thu Oct 06, 2005 9:35 am

I am not making any accusations or attempting to solve what happened this morning, but there is two things I have to say.

1) I never flew a C208. My question is this: how do you asses that the wings are clear of any contaminants on/just before the T/O roll?

2)Also, it is my opinion, through my years of flying commuters, that many exprienced pilots tend to feel safe when they have been de-iced. It is a false feeling just like the false feeling that if a plane takes off, it will fly...(ground effect)

Many forget that de-ice fluid works best if heated and when there isn't too much precip(ex: snow or ice pelletets/FZRN). If those conditions aren't met, might as well cancel the flight and live one more day to talk about other close calls...

A little anecdote: At one company I worked at, a B1900 attempted and rejected a T/O twice (after being de-iced both times) in snow showers because the snow would fall on the de-ice fluid and would create a thick slushy substance that would stick nicely on the wings. Even though the snow would stick on the wings in the first place, the slush that the de-ice fluid created would be just as bad, if not worse, than just the snow itself (Flights ended up being cancelled that day because of that)

my 2 cents

Cheers