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Low Wing

Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2004 11:31 am
by XLR8
Is it possible to do all of your PPL and PPL flight test on a low wing ?

Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2004 11:38 am
by KAG
Low wing? as in a piper cherokee? of course you can.

Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2004 12:58 pm
by cyyz
Spiral dive in an arrow? Interesting, I'd pass on that.

But as long as your plane is certified for all the exam criteria, spiral and unusual attitudes, spins(for the CPL) go for it.

Lastly remember it's a more complicated machine if you're comfortable with having extra work load(gears), more power, more emergencies, sure go for it.

Any particular reason why you'd rather do the low wing? Just for my own insight?

Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2004 1:05 pm
by dont_snag_it
Cherokee 140 Cruiser is the only Cherokee you can do your complete PPL training on. Warriors/Archers are not certified for spins.

Cherokees are nicer flying planes than C172s. The low wing offers greater visiblity especially turning final.

Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2004 2:36 pm
by Phlyer
LoadFactor2 wrote:Cherokees are nicer flying planes than C172s. The low wing offers greater visiblity especially turning final.
Except other times - like straight and level. :lol:

Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2004 2:59 pm
by ahramin
cyyz wrote:But as long as your plane is certified for all the exam criteria, spiral and unusual attitudes, spins(for the CPL)
The aircraft must be able to do spins for the PPL flight test:

http://www.tc.gc.ca/civilaviation/gener ... P13723.PDF

Maybe you are thinking of the RPP?

Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2004 3:16 pm
by shitdisturber
An aircraft certified for spins is no longer required for the PPL flight test; since spins have been removed from the test. However, you still have to have an aircraft certified for spins as they are still part of the required syllabus. So use a low wing for everything else and rent a 172 for the spins, no biggie.

As for the comment about doing spiral dives in an Arrow; try it, you'll like it!

Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2004 3:20 pm
by ahramin
I guess i should not be surprised that the regulators do not have current publications.

When did this happen?

Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2004 3:21 pm
by cyyz
*bows head in shame*

S.o.L on using most low wing aircraft..

Unless you do as it suggests. Provide two aircrafts, one for the spin and any other exercises, which you already knew..

Thanks Ahramin

Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2004 4:36 pm
by Cat Driver
The early cherokees were certified for spins and the Tomahawk is certified for spins to name two low wing trainers.

In fact I had a Tomahawk in my school and preferred it to the Cessna 150.

Cat

Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2004 6:11 pm
by XLR8
Thanks guys knew I could count on ya for information. I'll pass it along .

Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2004 6:44 pm
by shitdisturber
ahramin wrote:I guess i should not be surprised that the regulators do not have current publications.

When did this happen?
They don't have a current pub on that change? God I hope you're kidding since spins went out of the private ride something like two years ago.

Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2004 6:55 pm
by chewsta
Katana is a beautiful low wing a/c certified for spins....

Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2004 7:22 pm
by shitdisturber
chewsta wrote:Katana is a beautiful low wing a/c certified for spins....
If you want to ride in an aerial sperm cell, go nuts.

Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2004 7:31 pm
by ahramin
And the best description of a Katana goes to ... SHITDISTURBER.

LOL. That was good.

But they do spin like crazy.

And as for the Flight Test Standards Guide for the PPL, i tried to find them but the only one i could find was for helicopter PPL, but when i clicked on it, it brought me to a list of all the FTSGs. The one i linked to was dated 2001 and i was not aware that changes had been made since. So i opened the mouth again and in went the foot.

There may be a current copy of the FTSG for the PPL lurking somewhere on the TC site, but i do not have the 10K years it would take me to find it.

Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2004 7:56 pm
by Cat Driver
When you get cross eyed trying to find your way around the TC site, read CAR's.....that will make you go blind. :D

Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 2:24 pm
by shitdisturber
Cat Driver wrote:When you get cross eyed trying to find your way around the TC site, read CAR's.....that will make you go blind. :D
If you're going to go blind you might as well masturbate, at least you'll get some enjoyment out of it! :mrgreen:

Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2004 9:43 am
by Shiny Side Up
So that's why you're always complaining that your eyesight is getting worse. :P

Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2004 9:59 am
by shitdisturber
Since when have I complained about that? I'm actually finding an advantage in it. If my eyesight deteriorates to a certain point, as long as I keep a reasonable distance from you, I won't be nauseated. violent flame

Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2004 8:32 pm
by Shiny Side Up
So has it made you more nearsighted or farsighted? :mrgreen:

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2004 9:32 am
by shitdisturber
Near sighted (scientific name myopia) - the inability to see ugly people from far away. bootyshake

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2004 11:01 am
by Shiny Side Up
Well try not to become too myopic today. :P

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2004 7:47 pm
by shitdisturber
Unfortunately I had to go hang out with an ugly person today. :?