flight level 430?
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Canus Chinookus
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Re: flight level 430?
care to explain wtf you're talking about??whipline wrote:Just curious how the bird handled at 43,000 feet?
whipline
Too bad you are not as well aware when it comes to dealing with issues like this.
I have no idea whether the aforementioned incident occured or not but it seems to me that you are trying to use something you heard to slag someone else. I don't know who you work for , nor do I really care but I would have thought your whole 16 years in the business had taught you that ANYONE at ANY company can make a mistake. Rest assured that every airline and every pilot has had their share of screwups. Good for you if you havn't had one yet.
It is the lowest of the low to get on this or any other forum and start slinging accusations around without knowing all the facts and even if you did it still implies that you take some sort of pleasure from broadcasting the mistakes of others.
You have a lot to learn.
Too bad you are not as well aware when it comes to dealing with issues like this.
I have no idea whether the aforementioned incident occured or not but it seems to me that you are trying to use something you heard to slag someone else. I don't know who you work for , nor do I really care but I would have thought your whole 16 years in the business had taught you that ANYONE at ANY company can make a mistake. Rest assured that every airline and every pilot has had their share of screwups. Good for you if you havn't had one yet.
It is the lowest of the low to get on this or any other forum and start slinging accusations around without knowing all the facts and even if you did it still implies that you take some sort of pleasure from broadcasting the mistakes of others.
You have a lot to learn.
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whipline wrote:APPARENTLY one of your crews decided to get above some weather and climbed up to 43,000. Thanks Pika I am well aware of the service ceiling.
See whipline, this is why you're an ass... because you said, APPARENTLY. Now if you had heard it first hand, you MIGHT have a little credibility accusing a WJ crew of doing this.
pika, you were misquoted... don't worry about it.
Let me remind you:
"Face it Wj700. Your jet envy for a real jet is going to force you out of Wj. Don't bet the farm on 777's."
So after a loser comment like that a few weeks back... your 'simple fact' comes over as a snide peanut gallery comment.
Cheers
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"Face it Wj700. Your jet envy for a real jet is going to force you out of Wj. Don't bet the farm on 777's."
So after a loser comment like that a few weeks back... your 'simple fact' comes over as a snide peanut gallery comment.
Cheers
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pika wrote:So I post a simple fact.
Next thing I know I have some wj employee calling me names. How am I the ass again? wtf...Ceiling: 41,000 ft. B737-700
You WJ boys seem to be a bit touchy. Except for Ivanhoe I can remember each and every one of you giving your two cents to all the APPARENT jetsgo incidents.
Touching down on the wrong wheel during a crosswind landing, that is a mistake. Hitting the GO buttons while doing a single channel ILS and forgetting for a second that the autopilot is going to kick off, that is a mistake. Climbing 2000 feet above the service ceiling, thats priceless.
The reason I asked Ivanhoe wasn't to slag. We were at 410 last week ridding the tops getting bounced around and we joked about going higher. I laughed when I heard the story and was wondering how the bird did up there.
The reason I have such a big ass Canus is becuase I have a really small penis and it helps me push it. Now go and spend your profit shareing cheque wisely. May I suggest a high percentage on women and booze.
Touching down on the wrong wheel during a crosswind landing, that is a mistake. Hitting the GO buttons while doing a single channel ILS and forgetting for a second that the autopilot is going to kick off, that is a mistake. Climbing 2000 feet above the service ceiling, thats priceless.
The reason I asked Ivanhoe wasn't to slag. We were at 410 last week ridding the tops getting bounced around and we joked about going higher. I laughed when I heard the story and was wondering how the bird did up there.
The reason I have such a big ass Canus is becuase I have a really small penis and it helps me push it. Now go and spend your profit shareing cheque wisely. May I suggest a high percentage on women and booze.
whipline wrote:You WJ boys seem to be a bit touchy. Except for Ivanhoe I can remember each and every one of you giving your two cents to all the APPARENT jetsgo incidents.
Touching down on the wrong wheel during a crosswind landing, that is a mistake. Hitting the GO buttons while doing a single channel ILS and forgetting for a second that the autopilot is going to kick off, that is a mistake. Climbing 2000 feet above the service ceiling, thats priceless.
The reason I asked Ivanhoe wasn't to slag. We were at 410 last week ridding the tops getting bounced around and we joked about going higher. I laughed when I heard the story and was wondering how the bird did up there.
The reason I have such a big ass Canus is becuase I have a really small penis and it helps me push it. Now go and spend your profit shareing cheque wisely. May I suggest a high percentage on women and booze.
Why wouldn’t we be touchy about some wanker spreading incorrect information on an internet chat forum? If you’re going to knock safety at least have something to back it up. You don’t see WestJet posters in the AC and Jazz forum talking about the stick shaker on the RJ 70, or the tail strike on the Frankfurt A340? Those are even published reports yet I don’t see anything written on the other stuff you’re fishing for.
You call me a prick, an ass, and a loser all in one thread. Then you post something I posted from another thread that has nothing to do with what is being discussed here. Then you get on your high moral horse and tell me my post is snide? Do you want to track down my grade 3 teacher to see if I was respectful of others? You seem more than a little conflicted here.Let me remind you:
"Face it Wj700. Your jet envy for a real jet is going to force you out of Wj. Don't bet the farm on 777's."
So after a loser comment like that a few weeks back... your 'simple fact' comes over as a snide peanut gallery comment.
Cheers
So let me get this straight. Someone at WJ decided to start a rumor about fellow employee's at WJ going above 410? Usually rumors like this would be started from outside the company would it not?
Another question for you WJ700, do you think the FDM guy would tell you that something had happened before it was looked into by the proper people? I hope not!
If you want to chat about tail strikes or high altitude stalls I think it is an excellent idea, we can all learn from others mistakes.
Another question for you WJ700, do you think the FDM guy would tell you that something had happened before it was looked into by the proper people? I hope not!
If you want to chat about tail strikes or high altitude stalls I think it is an excellent idea, we can all learn from others mistakes.
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Let me get this to you straight. If it had truly happened, and if the FDM guy checked into it, here at WJ we don't have a problem sharing screwups(without the names) and learning from them. I have full confidence that if the FDM guy says nothing like that happened, then it didn't.
Sorry RB, the guys that crashed in the CRJ went above their maximum altitude for their given weight and speed but not above the service ceiling, stalled the airplane, flamed out the engines which then went into a core lock making them unable to relight. I'm not sure what that story has to do with this one.
Ah, something to actually discuss. I think the Pinacle RJ crash had those pilots in an empty aircraft on a ferry flight and within the limits and ceiling of the aircraft. I have to work tomorow morning but I'll try and find the report when I'm back.... if one of you doesn't find it first.
If a crew intentionally operates an aircraft above its approved certificated ceiling altitude there would be downstream consequences for every one involved as there are among other things, legal aspects of FDM data collection, retention and use. The regulatory auditors, FDM / FOQA system suppliers and aircraft manufacturers/airline all have a vested legal interest and we haven't even discussed the safety consequences of that action.
Indeed any regulatory authority would be remiss in their duties if they didn’t ask questions..
Indeed any regulatory authority would be remiss in their duties if they didn’t ask questions..
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