runway hold short markings

pelmet · Post by **pelmet** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 7:03 pm

Remember how the AIP told us that for instrument runways there was a double solid and double broken line and that it was a single solid and single broken line for a non-instrument runway(although gravel runways have neither of course). A while back the AIP deleted the reference for the non-instrument runway. Now there is only a diagram for an instrument runway. So what kind of markings are there for a non-instrument runway?
Was this deleted because there are so many little airports without markings that are shown in the AIM?

CARO · Post by **CARO** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 9:56 pm

I don't think the markings have changed. I don't think that just cuz the AIP changed their info, every airport operator went out and repainted their taxiway markings. Although it does make you wonder why they did that in the AIP.

Dust Devil · Post by **Dust Devil** » Wed Dec 07, 2005 1:01 am

Probably because having special markings for an non insturment runway is silly. If it has different markings then what an insturment runway is supposed to have then it is not an insturment runway. They could paint happy faces across it and you should be able to figure that it's a non insturment runway.

xsbank · Post by **xsbank** » Wed Dec 07, 2005 12:07 pm

Wasn't there some fussing recently about the 200' rule - you were required to hold 200' short of an active runway, until somebody pointed out that at some airports the line would be off the airport? And some lines (like at YBL) were nowhere near 200'?

captain_v1.0 · Post by **captain_v1.0** » Fri Dec 09, 2005 10:08 am

I heard a few weeks ago that 72 major aiports in the US are to get new hold short markings to reduce the number of runway incursions.

http://www.airportbusiness.com/article/ ... eSection=4

I like their idea, add a centerline as you approach the hold position. Just like most airports that already have a taxiway centerline as you approach the runway, what's the point?

Rubberbiscuit · Post by **Rubberbiscuit** » Fri Dec 09, 2005 11:18 am

IFR,VFR,CAT I, CAT II............I say we all do like certain unnamed carriers from Asia do in Anchorage..........Land and take-off on the taxiways, get rid of "taxiways" as we know it......make it a free for all. The need for hold short markings would vanish all together.