Types of hours to put on a resume??

J-os · Post by **J-os** » Wed Dec 14, 2005 5:44 pm

Do you think that you should put all the types of hours you have flown on your resume?

Ex: Total X-Country: 430
Total Instrument: 200

etc etc etc

I was told that a company pretty much just cares about your total time, and multi time....what do you think?

... · Post by **...** » Wed Dec 14, 2005 6:30 pm

Total time
Total PIC
Total Multi (Turbine)
Total Multi PIC (Turbine)

Jeremy · Post by **Jeremy** » Wed Dec 14, 2005 6:41 pm

I've got 3 days, 18 hrs and 23 minutes of kite time...over the years. Should I include that BD? 1/2 was a bi-plane kite; does that help? :}

RJ

. . · Post by **. .** » Wed Dec 14, 2005 7:19 pm

I'd throw on instrument if you've got a bunch. I'd want to hire a guy with 200hrs instrument and 2000hrs over a guy with 50hrs instrument and 2000hrs to fly my plane IFR. Xctry can go either way. If you're trying to show that you've flown 703/704 and have experience that exists out of the circuit then maybe?

... · Post by **...** » Wed Dec 14, 2005 7:28 pm

Jeremy wrote:I've got 3 days, 18 hrs and 23 minutes of kite time...over the years. Should I include that BD? 1/2 was a bi-plane kite; does that help? :}

RJ

I'd take the whole time and convert it into minutes to fluff it up to a chunky number 3 days 18 hrs 23 mins = 5423 minutes Total flight time.

Here's another suggestion...shave the stach...theres a great thread over in misc. forum.

http://www.avcanada.ca/forums2/viewtopic.php?t=13557

MRO · Post by **MRO** » Sat Dec 17, 2005 7:32 am

What about the ATPL requirements, like night and pic.
Anything that shows you are upgradeable. I dunno but that has to look good right?

Dust Devil · Post by **Dust Devil** » Sat Dec 17, 2005 9:25 am

If you want to show insturment time do it for say the past 6 months. Having 200 hrs insturment from 1984 isn't very helpfull

TG · Post by TG » Sat Dec 17, 2005 2:04 pm

Also not very helpfull if the guy is logging instrument every time he file IFR.

Dust Devil · Post by **Dust Devil** » Sat Dec 17, 2005 4:37 pm

TG wrote:Also not very helpfull if the guy is logging instrument every time he file IFR.

Actually I have no problem with that. If your in the system I think you should log it.

Freetime · Post by **Freetime** » Sun Dec 18, 2005 1:50 pm

What about the ATPL requirements, like night and pic.
Anything that shows you are upgradeable. I dunno but that has to look good right?

Why not just get the ATPL?? If you already meet the requirements just get it done!

Shady McSly · Post by **Shady McSly** » Sun Dec 18, 2005 8:00 pm

If you were applying for a multi-turbine job somewhere would you still put down how much float time you had on a resume?

zither · Post by **zither** » Sat Apr 08, 2006 6:10 am

i agree about the IFR time... when you fly IFR, even if the weather is good, do you map with a VMC chart and look at the ground, really? I think we rely on the instrument when we're flying, so it's IFR...

Stinky · Post by **Stinky** » Sat Apr 08, 2006 7:05 am

Put what is relevant to the job. Air Canada doesn't care about tailwheel time and a skydiving place doesn't care about night x-country.

Stinky · Post by **Stinky** » Sat Apr 08, 2006 7:08 am

As far as the IFR time goes, I only would log actual IMC. If you always fly IFR, and it's too much to keep track of just log 5% of your total as instrument.

cyyz · Post by **cyyz** » Sat Apr 08, 2006 1:01 pm

Stinky wrote:As far as the IFR time goes, I only would log actual IMC. If you always fly IFR, and it's too much to keep track of just log 5% of your total as instrument.

If their logbooks say "IFR" let them log 100% if their log books say "IMC" then do it properly....

wallypilot · Post by **wallypilot** » Sat Apr 08, 2006 3:47 pm

i agree with BD's comments and DD's comments. IFR, I only log IMC, but I fully support the idea of logging IFR as not only IMC, but every IFR flight. When it comes down to it, time spent in the system is also very valuable. there's more to IFR flying than just knowing how to fly in IMC, although that is very important. '

Also, show on your resume what is relevant. i am sure most of you guys have enough sense to know what is relevant to the job you are applying for. But basics should be: Total, then PIC, then Multi, then Turbine & then Multi Turbine. But use common sense to decide exactly what is best.

flyindude · Post by **flyindude** » Sat Apr 08, 2006 5:08 pm

Time spent Avcanada. Average about 1-1/2 hrs per day, do the math.

Cat Driver · Post by **Cat Driver** » Sat Apr 08, 2006 5:36 pm

" Also not very helpfull if the guy is logging instrument every time he file IFR. "

Man oh man what is wrong with aviation is everyone in some kind of mental time warp?

There are two legal ways to fly an aircraft.

VFR

IFR

If you are licensed to file and fly IFR and you are concerned about wether or not you are in cloud or its so dark you have no outside reference how in fu.k did you get your IFR rating....

......Jeses I just don't understand the way pilots think on this subject..

Rant over...........except I personally find flying with reference to the instrument panel only with no outside stuff to annoy me be it steam or glass is the most simple method to fly and control an airplane....all I want is to get to landing limits and get visual reference to land...saves missing and going to the alternate.

Doc · Post by **Doc** » Sat Apr 08, 2006 6:33 pm

I only use the time flown Thursdays and Fridays!

TG · Post by TG » Sat Apr 08, 2006 8:30 pm

Cat Driver wrote:" Also not very helpfull if the guy is logging instrument every time he file IFR. "

Man oh man what is wrong with aviation is everyone in some kind of mental time warp?

There are two legal ways to fly an aircraft.

VFR

IFR

If you are licensed to file and fly IFR and you are concerned about wether or not you are in cloud or its so dark you have no outside reference how in fu.k did you get your IFR rating....

......Jeses I just don't understand the way pilots think on this subject..

Rant over...........except I personally find flying with reference to the instrument panel only with no outside stuff to annoy me be it steam or glass is the most simple method to fly and control an airplane....all I want is to get to landing limits and get visual reference to land...saves missing and going to the alternate.

Nothing wrong and no Fu.k.g mental wrap!!!!!!
Just using your own stupid terms in this particular sentence 'cause when you treat someone bad don't expect him to be gentle in return

I don't have the time/patience/perfect english to explain it correctly or find some wierdo CARs reference about it but basically:

A pilot log "instruments", I repeat "INSTRUMENTS" while flying IFR when he has no outside visual reference.
I know, that when flying IFR most don't give a caca about outside visual ref but anyway that's how I've been teach to do so and that's how I'm doing it. (whooooa, shock horror!)

I'm also fully aware that nobody (me first) start a stop watch everytime they enter a freacking cloud so you just make the best "guestimate" you can about your instruments time during each of your IFR flight that's all.

Now, if someone want to fully log instruments in every IFR flight they do, even when it's CAVOK everywhere...Well up to him or her.
Then they will have to explain at their next (serious, not mom & pap) panel interview how come they have 3500hrs of it out of their 4000 total.

--->I'm done with this 4 months old subject ciao!

Cat Driver · Post by **Cat Driver** » Sat Apr 08, 2006 9:14 pm

TG......what I was trying to point out is no one gives a fu.k if you are flying in clouds period...it just a normal part of flying and logging the time in actual instrument conditions means nothing once you are employed.

Only TC cares about it when you first start.

Hopefully we as pilots can move beyond the TC mentality once we are employed ??

I have never, never, never ever been asked how many hours I have flying on instruments...why would anyone ask???

I have hired probably hundreds of pilots and it never occured to me to ask them such a useless question.

Cat

TG · Post by TG » Sat Apr 08, 2006 9:34 pm

ehehe, no worry. Me too actually, in clouds out of clouds who cares.

But I reckon this instrument's logging stuff is a "nice" grey area comming up straight from T.C.

Cat Driver · Post by **Cat Driver** » Sat Apr 08, 2006 9:48 pm

TG..I don't know your experience level, but trust me once you get past the exams and flight tests the last concern in your life should be what TC does or thinks about anything....after all we are in this business to earn a living not to be treated like children by TC....

The regulations were meant to keep us alive, but there comes a time when the regulations, rules and policies become so clusterfu.ked that no one can understand what they mean.

So do your best and use common sense and try and abide by the ruels that keep you alive.

Once you get into the work market as a pilot, believe me we know who is employable and who is not......and trust me it is not by reading a log book.

Take care fly safe and some day you will be my age and still alive and flying.

Cat

gr8_2_av8 · Post by **gr8_2_av8** » Sat Apr 08, 2006 10:51 pm

If I can do an ifr ride and get an ifr rating without ever have been in "IMC" I sure as hell will log all the hours I "filed" as ifr.

Stinky · Post by **Stinky** » Sun Apr 09, 2006 4:11 am

I think this debate pretty much boils down to this. You log actual IMC time until you meet ATPL mins. After that you don't log any IFR/IMC. If you do, you're just a big loser who will never find a job anyways so it's a moot point.