Just wrote SARON and SAMRA 2019
Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2019 12:51 pm
Hi guys, thought Id share some information on the exams
What I did to study:
I did the whole aerocourse atpl exam book, and studied those sections I was weak in.
Also bought Harvs air and did those practice tests. TBH this course isnt really worth it unless you have time to do the whole thing, while it has great info there is also alot of useless stuff that you'll never be asked by TC or a company, its more nice to know than need to know. I only got it because I split it with some people.
I did all this in about 3 weeks during pairings, days off etc.
My tip when writing:
You'll prob see questions you haven't seen in a while since CPL, so I cover up and answers and read the question and see if anything comes to mind before I look at the options. You'd be surprised how much comes back.
The SAMRA (met and radio aids/fping)
So I went into this one thinking it'd be the easier of the two, but for me it was the opposite. The SAMRA has a lot of stupidly worded questions (thanks TC) which I think is up to interpretation of the questions. There was alot of FOG related questions, and winterwarm fronts, weather associated with fronts. Not alot of Jetstream stuff surprisingly.
The ones I got wrong or that I remember
- What speed to speed up to melt ice with aerodynamic heating (I chose 500kts, but there were 2 options with that)
-Flying in the middle of the microburst, what happens to the aircraft. (This one was stupid, it was between something about AoA or incr/decr windshear)
-Benefits of ADSB
-What does a hook show on a weather radar? (some options were tornado, TS direction..)
-Know the difference between TCAS 1-3
-All about WAAS (whats false in this list kind of question)
-Temp range for clear icing
-Where is the worse weather in a TROWAL
-If you have shallow fog in the landing zone, what would it show, higher prevailing vis or RVR
-High level airspace, when would you position report with LAT and LONG
-Pressure/temp changes with passage of cold front
-radio fail in CVFR, what do you do (not follow IFR like I said duh)
-DME understanding
-What is not included in a Cockpit management system (Wx radar, pressure monitor, TCAS or engine indications)
-Decode a GFA (LOL I hate these ones)
The SARON (airlaw, nav)
Did alot better on this one, I found this one alot more straight forward.
-Wake turbulence VS weight categories for S-L aircraft
-Movement area vs maneuvering (but they worded it really weirdly..)
-Operation of trim tabs, elev and right aileron trim up, what would it do
-If you shutdown an engine as a precaution, is it a occurrence, or an incident. and should you report it. (I said you should report it to TC, apparently not)
-What does ANTI SKID measure?
-A few questions about BETA range
-Time of conscience questions
-How does a FIRE LOOP work, but I think these are how OLD loops work, not current ones.
-Youre in uncontrolled air and doing an app to an uncontrolled airport, what freq do you use?
Goodluck all!
What I did to study:
I did the whole aerocourse atpl exam book, and studied those sections I was weak in.
Also bought Harvs air and did those practice tests. TBH this course isnt really worth it unless you have time to do the whole thing, while it has great info there is also alot of useless stuff that you'll never be asked by TC or a company, its more nice to know than need to know. I only got it because I split it with some people.
I did all this in about 3 weeks during pairings, days off etc.
My tip when writing:
You'll prob see questions you haven't seen in a while since CPL, so I cover up and answers and read the question and see if anything comes to mind before I look at the options. You'd be surprised how much comes back.
The SAMRA (met and radio aids/fping)
So I went into this one thinking it'd be the easier of the two, but for me it was the opposite. The SAMRA has a lot of stupidly worded questions (thanks TC) which I think is up to interpretation of the questions. There was alot of FOG related questions, and winterwarm fronts, weather associated with fronts. Not alot of Jetstream stuff surprisingly.
The ones I got wrong or that I remember
- What speed to speed up to melt ice with aerodynamic heating (I chose 500kts, but there were 2 options with that)
-Flying in the middle of the microburst, what happens to the aircraft. (This one was stupid, it was between something about AoA or incr/decr windshear)
-Benefits of ADSB
-What does a hook show on a weather radar? (some options were tornado, TS direction..)
-Know the difference between TCAS 1-3
-All about WAAS (whats false in this list kind of question)
-Temp range for clear icing
-Where is the worse weather in a TROWAL
-If you have shallow fog in the landing zone, what would it show, higher prevailing vis or RVR
-High level airspace, when would you position report with LAT and LONG
-Pressure/temp changes with passage of cold front
-radio fail in CVFR, what do you do (not follow IFR like I said duh)
-DME understanding
-What is not included in a Cockpit management system (Wx radar, pressure monitor, TCAS or engine indications)
-Decode a GFA (LOL I hate these ones)
The SARON (airlaw, nav)
Did alot better on this one, I found this one alot more straight forward.
-Wake turbulence VS weight categories for S-L aircraft
-Movement area vs maneuvering (but they worded it really weirdly..)
-Operation of trim tabs, elev and right aileron trim up, what would it do
-If you shutdown an engine as a precaution, is it a occurrence, or an incident. and should you report it. (I said you should report it to TC, apparently not)
-What does ANTI SKID measure?
-A few questions about BETA range
-Time of conscience questions
-How does a FIRE LOOP work, but I think these are how OLD loops work, not current ones.
-Youre in uncontrolled air and doing an app to an uncontrolled airport, what freq do you use?
Goodluck all!