Jazz Pay 06 ??

.25flap · Post by **.25flap** » Sun Jan 01, 2006 5:57 pm

I heard rumor that in June/06 that the pay scale changes at jazz... first year pay goes to 38k or somthing like that!

Anyone no if there is anything to this?? And how it effects the pay scale beyond yr 1?

twinpratts · Post by **twinpratts** » Sun Jan 01, 2006 6:54 pm

I heard they can open it up in 06, but it's only due for negotiation in 07, or 08. Anyone confirm this?

Pratt · Post by **Pratt** » Sun Jan 01, 2006 7:32 pm

Pilot pay scale increases across the board in July of each year of 1.5% making the starting wage at $35,280 in July 2006. The current contract is in effect until 2009.

I believe there are other employee groups whose contracts come up for renewal starting in 2006.

Traf · Post by **Traf** » Mon Jan 02, 2006 6:55 am

I heard they can open it up in 06, but it's only due for negotiation in 07, or 08. Anyone confirm this?

FALSE!!!! Was only a rumour. The contract is sealed until 2009. It technically could be opened at some point but I doubt the pilot group would be interested unless it was for a raise. Paying too much for 36 seats? get more of the bigger planes. I doubt anyone would be too upset if they dumped all the 36 seaters for 300s or Q 400s.

elvis · Post by **elvis** » Mon Jan 02, 2006 10:11 am

Is there a pilot pension plan at Jazz ?? Do you have any info on it

Traf · Post by **Traf** » Mon Jan 02, 2006 12:48 pm

I don't have the specifics but there is a full pension and a great benefits plan.

elvis · Post by **elvis** » Mon Jan 02, 2006 3:36 pm

Just checked it out Jazz Pilot has full pension 30 yrs best 3 yrs @ $100,000 gives you pension of $4000+/month. AirCanada mainline is $10,000/mo with 3 best years of $200,000 + & 30 year service.

yellow donkey · Post by **yellow donkey** » Thu Jan 12, 2006 1:09 pm

Can anyone direct me to where I can read the pension details myself?

What will my salary go up to 2nd year?

Tks,
BC

Pratt · Post by **Pratt** » Thu Jan 12, 2006 9:46 pm

It is in the Jazz contract which I don't think you will find available on any public site.

Martin Tamme · Post by **Martin Tamme** » Fri Jan 13, 2006 12:42 am

Jazz pay scales:

http://forum.oacpilots.com/uploads/Mart ... _Rates.pdf

Sailorman · Post by **Sailorman** » Fri Jan 13, 2006 5:29 am

Mr. Tamme,

As a person who is an elected [or ran for election] ACPA rep., do you think it is ethical to post the Jazz pay rates on a public forum such as this?

To be fair maybe you could post the AC rates as well?

Martin Tamme · Post by **Martin Tamme** » Sat Jan 14, 2006 1:48 am

The Jazz pay scales were freely distributed (or leaked, whichever you prefer) the day Air Canada came out of CCAA. I obtained this copy back then off another public forum. Besides this type of information is freely available from many sources that offer pay scale comparisons.

At the present time, nobody has a copy of the Air Canada pay scales (at least I don't have them). They'll most probably be included once we get an actual copy of the Collective Agreement.

The question is do people want the actual facts or will rumours suffice?

Sailorman · Post by **Sailorman** » Sat Jan 14, 2006 6:34 am

The info. may be floating around the worldwide web but my point is that as an ACPA rep. I do not think it is your place to be posting it.

I hope that when the ACPA pay scales are in print form, you or the rest of your elected officials won't get upset when they get posted for the world to see...you know what's good for the goose etc. etc.

Lost in Saigon · Post by **Lost in Saigon** » Sat Jan 14, 2006 7:08 am

Martin, The latest Air Canada pay rates are available as downloadable Adobe .pdf files on the ACPA website for all ACPA members......

https://secure.acpa.ca/dl.asp?f=1277

Martin Tamme · Post by **Martin Tamme** » Sat Jan 14, 2006 12:39 pm

Wow, first time that I have ever seen them.

They are embarrassingly low and out of sequence: The B737 pays more than the A320; the B787 -an aircraft the size of the A340- pays slightly more than a B767; F/As make more than RJ pilots; the EMJ -an aircraft heavier than a DC9 with a much longer range- pays a salary that I don't if I should laugh or cry at.

Sailorman · Post by **Sailorman** » Sat Jan 14, 2006 1:03 pm

So why don't you post them so that we can ALL share in the crying

and the laughter

?.

pilotbzh · Post by **pilotbzh** » Sat Jan 14, 2006 4:25 pm

Why is AC one of the few that considers that bigger is better??? why didn't they made they pay scale index on years of service with a Capt scale and an FO scale.....just like BA did so that senior guys few the easy short run and the younger one flew the long ones...

who cares how much is you retirement , long sector reduce your life expectancy by a large number most pilot flying long haul don't see 80, very few see 75, almost half wont see 70.....

there is a good study out there to make you think, but I cant find the link....anybody read the article to???

Captn Flex · Post by **Captn Flex** » Wed Jan 18, 2006 5:30 pm

Pilotbzh, check your source BA pays long haul (747+777) pilots about 17% more than short haul (320+737).
But junior sh Ca alway earn more than senior lh FO.

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