https://www.citynews1130.com/2021/03/05 ... eco-stunt/
I think you would have to be breaking some pretty strict laws to do something like this, at least in Canada.
GreenPeace enters the aircraft painting business
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Re: GreenPeace enters the aircraft painting business
If the aircraft was "in service" (which ends not earlier than 24 hours after it lands) - section 77 of the criminal code would apply:
It doesn't look like this one has flown for a while, though.77 Every one who
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(c) causes damage to an aircraft in service that renders the aircraft incapable of flight or that is likely to endanger the safety of the aircraft in flight,
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is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for life.
DId you hear the one about the jurisprudence fetishist? He got off on a technicality.
Re: GreenPeace enters the aircraft painting business
I have it on good authority that that paint is a petroleum product and the perpetrators filled up their Peugot on the way to the airport.
Climate terrorists and hypocrites.
Climate terrorists and hypocrites.
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The Hammer
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Re: GreenPeace enters the aircraft painting business
This is a good read on how the oil and gas industry points out North Face products are use oil and gas products by 70% by weight.
https://denver.cbslocal.com/2021/03/05/ ... ace-award/
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Dh8Classic
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This is what happens when people are foolish enough to listen to the green lobby. Think about that when you vote in the near future.
Diane Francis: Canada's biggest mistake was not building a cross-country oil pipeline — and the Line 5 standoff proves it
In the 19th century, Canada remained independent by building, at huge expense and great risk, the Canadian Pacific Railway along an all-Canadian route, rather than relying on shortcuts through the United States. The same prudent routing strategy was applied to the construction of a natural gas pipeline from west to east in 1954, but not to oil pipelines. This vulnerability has finally come home to roost.
In November, Michigan ordered a key portion of the major pipeline carrying Canadian oil eastward — Enbridge's Line 5 pipeline — to be shut down by the end of May. The key portion consists of 7.2 kilometres of twin pipelines that cross under the Straits of Mackinac.
Environmentalists have targeted this line for years, even though there’s never been a spill. Just before the November election, however, Michigan’s Natural Resources Department ruled that the underwater easement should be cancelled because of “incurable” violations — i.e., fears of an oil spill.
Enbridge Inc. — North America’s biggest energy pipeline company — is fighting the shutdown in court, and has also offered to invest $500 million to build a fortified tunnel for the underwater line.
This represents a serious flash point between the United States and Canada. The stakes couldn’t be higher and it is entirely Canada’s fault for never building an all-Canadian pipeline to transport Western Canadian oil eastward.
Instead, oil has been delivered to Ontario and Quebec circuitously: from pipelines in Western Canada, crossing the Manitoba-North Dakota border, on through Minnesota and Wisconsin, under the Straits of Mackinac, through Sarnia, Ont., and on to Toronto and Montreal.
Michigan Gov. Elizabeth Whitmer, an ally of President Joe Biden’s, supported the shutdown, even though Line 5 is crucial to her state and to the region as a whole. Ohio Gov. Mike DeWine has appealed publicly to her: “We ask that you please consider options to improve the safety of Line 5 that does not result in taking the pipeline offline.”
The issue is bi-national, which means that Biden will have to weigh in eventually. He is under pressure to shut down pipelines everywhere and made closing the door on Keystone XL a priority on his first day in office. But the difference is that Keystone was a proposed line, not an established line that millions of people and businesses rely on in both countries.
The permanent fix for all this is to build Energy East, which was backed by former prime minister Stephen Harper’s government and nixed after Quebec’s refusal to co-operate. This represents Canada’s biggest infrastructure, and geopolitical, mistake. But it’s not too late to correct. Even if the existing natural gas pipeline, which extends to the Ontario-Quebec border, was converted to oil without building the extension to the East Coast, the calamitous possibility of stopping the flow of more than 500,000 barrels a day would never happen again.
I personally support shoving the line down Quebec’s throat on the basis that it’s in the national interest, but Canada’s clueless prime minister from Quebec would never do that, even though it makes sense: it would not only secure the country’s essential energy supply line and avoid U.S. politics, but would stop the foreign currency drain of importing nearly one million barrels a day of oil from the Saudis and Americans to supply eastern Canada.
Quebec could also be bypassed entirely by building a branch line to Thunder Bay or Oshawa, Ont., which would allow oil to be transported through the Saint Lawrence Seaway to the Atlantic Ocean by ship or rail. (Eastern Canada currently relies on trains and boats for the oil it imports from foreign sources.)
Oil is not going away and will be essential for decades. That means Enbridge’s Line 5 situation must be negotiated between the two countries immediately, but Energy East must be resurrected, as well. Canada has no leverage in negotiations with the United States right now and will end up on the losing end of any compromise, which is precisely why Energy East should have been built in the first place.
Diane Francis: Canada's biggest mistake was not building a cross-country oil pipeline — and the Line 5 standoff proves it
In the 19th century, Canada remained independent by building, at huge expense and great risk, the Canadian Pacific Railway along an all-Canadian route, rather than relying on shortcuts through the United States. The same prudent routing strategy was applied to the construction of a natural gas pipeline from west to east in 1954, but not to oil pipelines. This vulnerability has finally come home to roost.
In November, Michigan ordered a key portion of the major pipeline carrying Canadian oil eastward — Enbridge's Line 5 pipeline — to be shut down by the end of May. The key portion consists of 7.2 kilometres of twin pipelines that cross under the Straits of Mackinac.
Environmentalists have targeted this line for years, even though there’s never been a spill. Just before the November election, however, Michigan’s Natural Resources Department ruled that the underwater easement should be cancelled because of “incurable” violations — i.e., fears of an oil spill.
Enbridge Inc. — North America’s biggest energy pipeline company — is fighting the shutdown in court, and has also offered to invest $500 million to build a fortified tunnel for the underwater line.
This represents a serious flash point between the United States and Canada. The stakes couldn’t be higher and it is entirely Canada’s fault for never building an all-Canadian pipeline to transport Western Canadian oil eastward.
Instead, oil has been delivered to Ontario and Quebec circuitously: from pipelines in Western Canada, crossing the Manitoba-North Dakota border, on through Minnesota and Wisconsin, under the Straits of Mackinac, through Sarnia, Ont., and on to Toronto and Montreal.
Michigan Gov. Elizabeth Whitmer, an ally of President Joe Biden’s, supported the shutdown, even though Line 5 is crucial to her state and to the region as a whole. Ohio Gov. Mike DeWine has appealed publicly to her: “We ask that you please consider options to improve the safety of Line 5 that does not result in taking the pipeline offline.”
The issue is bi-national, which means that Biden will have to weigh in eventually. He is under pressure to shut down pipelines everywhere and made closing the door on Keystone XL a priority on his first day in office. But the difference is that Keystone was a proposed line, not an established line that millions of people and businesses rely on in both countries.
The permanent fix for all this is to build Energy East, which was backed by former prime minister Stephen Harper’s government and nixed after Quebec’s refusal to co-operate. This represents Canada’s biggest infrastructure, and geopolitical, mistake. But it’s not too late to correct. Even if the existing natural gas pipeline, which extends to the Ontario-Quebec border, was converted to oil without building the extension to the East Coast, the calamitous possibility of stopping the flow of more than 500,000 barrels a day would never happen again.
I personally support shoving the line down Quebec’s throat on the basis that it’s in the national interest, but Canada’s clueless prime minister from Quebec would never do that, even though it makes sense: it would not only secure the country’s essential energy supply line and avoid U.S. politics, but would stop the foreign currency drain of importing nearly one million barrels a day of oil from the Saudis and Americans to supply eastern Canada.
Quebec could also be bypassed entirely by building a branch line to Thunder Bay or Oshawa, Ont., which would allow oil to be transported through the Saint Lawrence Seaway to the Atlantic Ocean by ship or rail. (Eastern Canada currently relies on trains and boats for the oil it imports from foreign sources.)
Oil is not going away and will be essential for decades. That means Enbridge’s Line 5 situation must be negotiated between the two countries immediately, but Energy East must be resurrected, as well. Canada has no leverage in negotiations with the United States right now and will end up on the losing end of any compromise, which is precisely why Energy East should have been built in the first place.
Re: GreenPeace enters the aircraft painting business
Exactly. All those gortex jackets and synthetic insulation vegan friendly parkas are made from... OIL.The Hammer wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 1:31 pmThis is a good read on how the oil and gas industry points out North Face products are use oil and gas products by 70% by weight.
https://denver.cbslocal.com/2021/03/05/ ... ace-award/
Hypocrites...
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RedAndWhiteBaron
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Nah. Canada's biggest mistake was letting in the NewfiesDh8Classic wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 1:50 pm Diane Francis: Canada's biggest mistake was not building a cross-country oil pipeline — and the Line 5 standoff proves it.
(With apologies to any Newfoundlanders present. Never met one I didn't like.)
I will dance the sky on laughter-silvered wings.
Re: GreenPeace enters the aircraft painting business
On a positive note, the lawsuit will bankrupt greenpeace.
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That is a great response by the oil and gas association in CO. Humour with facts really helps drive the hypocrisy home. As for the Greenpeacers, what is that Tyvek suit made from? How did they get (jet) to the latest champagne fuelled 'climate' gabfest? The core of part of their message - conservation - is good (IMO) but I can't stand their stunts and holier than thou virtue signalling attitude. I wonder how many people they turn off by this sort of idiocy?The Hammer wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 1:31 pmThis is a good read on how the oil and gas industry points out North Face products are use oil and gas products by 70% by weight.
https://denver.cbslocal.com/2021/03/05/ ... ace-award/
Reducing hydrocarbon use is an excellent idea which is why I hope we shift to more nuclear electric generation (like at Pickering near YYZ). It will keep the hydrocarbons from getting used up as quickly if we can shift our surface based transport to more electric based solutions like MAGLEV trains, cars etc. Thanks for the link Hammer
