Seniority Travel
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Seniority Travel
With many taking early retirement or furloughed in all departments is it time to push for seniority travel. I’m for it sitting middle of the pack.
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What do you mean by seniority travel?
As far as I know, retired crew are entitled to flight benefits whereas furloughed crew are entitled to the following notice:
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By this I mean your standby priority is based on your date of hire vs the ridiculous who presses the button first at 24 hrs from the flight. Hunger games.
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You know where the perfect place to complain and/or advocate for this is?
Wait for it...
Just a little longer...
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Not Avcanada.
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As someone who commutes only to have 5 people list 2 hours before the flight that you thought you were safe to take I can tell you that the seniority Stby travel sucks. Maybe if there was a cutoff time it wouldn’t be so bad where people would fall behind the already listed people but not knowing where you sit on the list until it’s too late to make a change is brutal.
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Are you suggesting that a retiree traveling for leisure should use his/her "seniority" too displace a "working stiff"
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Retirees have their own spot on the priority list. But yeah seniority doh would work in that specific priority list too when it comes to retirees.Loon-A-Tic wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 12:50 pmAre you suggesting that a retiree traveling for leisure should use his/her "seniority" too displace a "working stiff"
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Maybe it's just because I'm still relatively green, but I favour check-in based priority. I wouldn't be opposed to commuters getting priority boosts.Dionysus wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 4:06 pmRetirees have their own spot on the priority list. But yeah seniority doh would work in that specific priority list too when it comes to retirees.Loon-A-Tic wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 12:50 pmAre you suggesting that a retiree traveling for leisure should use his/her "seniority" too displace a "working stiff"
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Check in Seniority all the way. Not DOH and definitely priority for commuters.
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Not sure why commuters deserve priority. They (me) made a choice not to live where they work. Why should that be rewarded? Some flights have 10+ commuters on them, I think it would be grossly unfair for a person traveling on vacation to be bumped on flight after flight by commuters.
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So you'd be perfectly happy with missing a assigned flight and the associated complications that arise as a result of by an "off duty" employee going on leisure travel.ALPApolicy wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 5:46 am Not sure why commuters deserve priority. They (me) made a choice not to live where they work. Why should that be rewarded? Some flights have 10+ commuters on them, I think it would be grossly unfair for a person traveling on vacation to be bumped on flight after flight by commuters.
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I would realize it's only fair and I don't deserve priority for choosing to commute.
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This last year alone should show why commuters deserve priority over vacationing employees. How many of us have had to change bases and be forced to commute. Even with upgrades and then eventually, hopefully being able to get back to their home base shows the need for commuters. This is not the military, do you expect the employees to move every time their base temporarily changes?
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So a good opportunity for airline management to eliminate and shed the burden of a "commuting policy" from the collective agreements. That sounds like a step backwards but if it of no assistance then why not remove it if favor of other "gains" in the next round of negations.
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My suggestion: set aside 10% of unsold seats as 'Commuter Priority' where a commuter will get first choice (based on check-in time), and then if it's not taken, it will be released to the rest of the standby crowd.
I don't commute, but for those who do, having a little more security that they will get to work or get home is more important than my leisure trip.
One is optional leisure, the other is mandatory work.
I don't commute, but for those who do, having a little more security that they will get to work or get home is more important than my leisure trip.
One is optional leisure, the other is mandatory work.
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Finally someone gets it, there is still a glimmer of hope alivenotwhoyouthinkIam wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 6:38 am My suggestion: set aside 10% of unsold seats as 'Commuter Priority' where a commuter will get first choice (based on check-in time), and then if it's not taken, it will be released to the rest of the standby crowd.
I don't commute, but for those who do, having a little more security that they will get to work or get home is more important than my leisure trip.
One is optional leisure, the other is mandatory work.
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It would be ironic if the person complaining about the commuter getting on ahead of them ended up having their vacation flight cancelled because the commuter couldn’t make it to work.
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As I recall there's a saying for that......Karma is a BITCH
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Because commuters are commuting so that the senior guys can get their preferred base. Kind of sour to hear people asking for priority to go on vacation. Jeesh.ALPApolicy wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 5:46 am Not sure why commuters deserve priority. They (me) made a choice not to live where they work. Why should that be rewarded? Some flights have 10+ commuters on them, I think it would be grossly unfair for a person traveling on vacation to be bumped on flight after flight by commuters.
As an AvCanada discussion grows longer:
-the probability of 'entitlement' being mentioned, approaches 1
-one will be accused of using bad airmanship
-the probability of 'entitlement' being mentioned, approaches 1
-one will be accused of using bad airmanship
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Nailed it.ALPApolicy wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 5:46 am Not sure why commuters deserve priority. They (me) made a choice not to live where they work. Why should that be rewarded? Some flights have 10+ commuters on them, I think it would be grossly unfair for a person traveling on vacation to be bumped on flight after flight by commuters.
Far too much negotiating capital has been used over the years for the benefit of commuters.