WestJet Dedicated Freighters

[notwhoyouthinkIam]

No need to disparage potential WJ cargo night flying. There are a some guys in our midst who enjoy the night flying, who will happily bid the cargo stuff. For some folks, flying in the o'dark hours, the lower-keyness of it (want to say showtime was only 45 minutes prior, on the cargo side), no airport terminals and security, plus no pax and fa drama sounds awfully good.

Benefits of flying at night:

• Less likely to have GDP
• No late passengers
• No cranky flight attendants
• Less likely to have to wait for gate/stand
• No worrying if the bumps are too much for the pax
• No pax announcements
• No waiting for pax to deplane before heading to the car

[ALPApolicy]

No need to disparage potential WJ cargo night flying. There are a some guys in our midst who enjoy the night flying, who will happily bid the cargo stuff. For some folks, flying in the o'dark hours, the lower-keyness of it (want to say showtime was only 45 minutes prior, on the cargo side), no airport terminals and security, plus no pax and fa drama sounds awfully good.

Benefits of flying at night:

• Less likely to have GDP
• No late passengers
• No cranky flight attendants
• Less likely to have to wait for gate/stand
• No worrying if the bumps are too much for the pax
• No pax announcements
• No waiting for pax to deplane before heading to the car

I would add: Less likely to meet someone who will tell you what their pronouns are.

[Mostly Harmless]

I would add: Less likely to meet someone who will tell you what their pronouns are.

I identify as a Toaster.

[notwhoyouthinkIam]

I would add: Less likely to meet someone who will tell you what their pronouns are.

I identify as a Toaster.

I'm a broom

[fish4life]

https://www.reuters.com/business/aerosp ... 021-07-12/

Related at all?

[Eric Janson]

I am always amazed when I work with a pilot who is upset about working weekends, holidays, or nights. Did they not understand the career they chose? There are many, many wonderful jobs in the world that work from 8-6 weekdays only.

If you are signing up for a job flying pax, somewhat during daylight hours-ish, and that suddenly changed to a full night freight schedule for the next few years (my original question/premise), I'm sure quite a few pilots would be unhappy with that.

But hey, good for you if you don't mind, if it scares other people off, it will only be good for your seniority number!

Freight flying is not necessarily a night operation any more than passenger flying is exclusively a day operation.

My Company was one of the first to remove the seats from our aircraft and start flying cargo. Didn't notice much difference in timings vs passenger ops.

In the beginning we couldn't overnight in China so we flew out and back with 6 Pilots. We lived on board for 2+ days. Nowhere near as bad as you might think.

I did multiple "Eastbound around the World flights" and even flew 15+59 non stop with cargo on board. Didn't know the aircraft could do this.

Most of us didn't mind the change at all.

Personally - I enjoyed the challenge.

[acpaleaks]

Would be an even greater challenge doing it for 10% less!

[notwhoyouthinkIam]

Would be an even greater challenge doing it for 10% less!

That's the difference between ALPA and ACPA.

[acpaleaks]

Would be an even greater challenge doing it for 10% less!

That's the difference between ALPA and ACPA.

Not the only difference, sadly.

ACPA = Management Training Club.

[notwhoyouthinkIam]

Would be an even greater challenge doing it for 10% less!

That's the difference between ALPA and ACPA.

Not the only difference, sadly.

ACPA = Management Training Club.

It sucks that you are having such a bad experience with your union. I was part of Teamsters for a short time, so I'm well aware of the stress and discomfort a shitty union can cause.

[acpaleaks]

That's the difference between ALPA and ACPA.

Not the only difference, sadly.

ACPA = Management Training Club.

It sucks that you are having such a bad experience with your union. I was part of Teamsters for a short time, so I'm well aware of the stress and discomfort a shitty union can cause.

Like many I came from Jazz and ALPA. ACPA is an absolute joke. An embarrassment.

[Liftdump]

Identifying as a toaster could possibly be the funniest thing I have ever heard in my life. Thank you for that. Broom is second.

[Eric Janson]

It appears some people still don't seem to understand.

It's about SURVIVAL right now - nothing else.

If you have a job (most of the people I worked with in the past don't) then you do what you have to to hang on to it.

That includes pay cuts/night flying or whatever else you need to do. JMHO

[fish4life]

It appears some people still don't seem to understand.

It's about SURVIVAL right now - nothing else.

If you have a job (most of the people I worked with in the past don't) then you do what you have to to hang on to it.

That includes pay cuts/night flying or whatever else you need to do. JMHO

Executives love pilots like you. No pilots don’t need to take pay cuts, companies have never failed as a result of pilot compensation they fail as a result of poor management

[acpaleaks]

It appears some people still don't seem to understand.

It's about SURVIVAL right now - nothing else.

If you have a job (most of the people I worked with in the past don't) then you do what you have to to hang on to it.

That includes pay cuts/night flying or whatever else you need to do. JMHO

Lol.

Shill.

[notwhoyouthinkIam]

It appears some people still don't seem to understand.

It's about SURVIVAL right now - nothing else.

If you have a job (most of the people I worked with in the past don't) then you do what you have to to hang on to it.

That includes pay cuts/night flying or whatever else you need to do. JMHO

Lol.

Shill.

Ah yes, the "you don't agree with me so you must be paid to disagree" argument.

That must make you a shill.

['97 Tercel]

[notwhoyouthinkIam]

I much prefer this:

[EPR]

I much prefer this:

Well that's just weird, I don't see CNN in that mix?? I bet you're a big fan of Chris Cuomo...you know.. the Anchor Bro to NY Governor Andrew Cuomo! (the idiot left-wing Gov. that allowed COVID + patients into long-care homes thus killing 6600 patients while sexually assaulting many female staff members! You're just fucked in your way of thinking man!

[notwhoyouthinkIam]

I much prefer this:

Well that's just weird, I don't see CNN in that mix?? I bet you're a big fan of Chris Cuomo...you know.. the Anchor Bro to NY Governor Andrew Cuomo! (the idiot left-wing Gov. that allowed COVID + patients into long-care homes thus killing 6600 patients while sexually assaulting many female staff members! You're just fucked in your way of thinking man!

Those are quite the assumptions.

Maybe it's time to take a break from the internet before your posts are censored again.