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FSS FIC Pay Rates
Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 6:25 pm
by DHC-1 Jockey
Hi, I was just curious about something in regards to the FSS CBA and how FSS are paid vs controllers. I know that ATC's are paid ATC-0 and upwards based on the tower classification, and if I understand it correctly, I believe all IFR are ATC-7.
For FSS, I'm under the assumption that they operate in the same fashion (the location and complexity determines the pay level), but I'm most curious about the FIC's specifically: are they all paid the same level in the same way that all IFR are paid the same level? I see that the CBA has pay-scales for FSS-A, FSS-B as well as FSS-1, FSS-2, etc. What is the pay classification level for the FIC's?
Thanks.
Re: FSS FIC Pay Rates
Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 5:15 am
by Braun
IFR controllers are ATC-6 as well as the 4 major control towers.
ATC-7 is for supervisors.
Re: FSS FIC Pay Rates
Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 9:54 am
by atcguy98
Just curious, is this public information or insider info? I know NavCanada lists the pay range on their website for FSS and ATC but not to this detail with the various levels.
Re: FSS FIC Pay Rates
Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 11:25 am
by Braun
I’m pretty sure the CATCA collective agreement is fairly easy to find online. If it’s outdated you’ll get a good idea. Our latest contract is from 2019-2023. 3% per year.
Re: FSS FIC Pay Rates
Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 11:41 am
by DHC-1 Jockey
atcguy98 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 9:54 am
Just curious, is this public information or insider info? I know NavCanada lists the pay range on their website for FSS and ATC but not to this detail with the various levels.
Any collective agreement (at least those working within a federal jurisdiction) can be found on the Government of Canada Labour website at
http://negotech.labour.gc.ca/cgi-bin/Re ... ture=en-CA
All of the NavCanada CBA's are on there, even for maintenance personnel and the NavCanada flight-check pilots and AIM department. The current CBA for both ATC and FSS isn't up on the NEGOTECH website yet, but as Braun said, you can read the previous one and just add the 3% to the payscale.
You are correct however in that the CBA does not show what each classification each unit has.
Braun wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 5:15 am
IFR controllers are ATC-6 as well as the 4 major control towers.
ATC-7 is for supervisors.
Thanks for the response Braun, but I'm interested in the FIC specific pay scales. I have the ATSAC CBA but I just don't know what the FIC pay-level is. If someone from the ATSAC side could chime in or PM me, it would be appreciated.
Re: FSS FIC Pay Rates
Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2021 2:55 am
by kashep
1, 2, 3 is years of service, you move up one step on the anniversary of your checkout.
I believe the FICs are considered D level sites, supervisors would be E level.
Re: FSS FIC Pay Rates
Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2021 6:28 am
by Braun
DHC-1 Jockey wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 11:41 am
atcguy98 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 9:54 am
Just curious, is this public information or insider info? I know NavCanada lists the pay range on their website for FSS and ATC but not to this detail with the various levels.
Any collective agreement (at least those working within a federal jurisdiction) can be found on the Government of Canada Labour website at
http://negotech.labour.gc.ca/cgi-bin/Re ... ture=en-CA
All of the NavCanada CBA's are on there, even for maintenance personnel and the NavCanada flight-check pilots and AIM department. The current CBA for both ATC and FSS isn't up on the NEGOTECH website yet, but as Braun said, you can read the previous one and just add the 3% to the payscale.
You are correct however in that the CBA does not show what each classification each unit has.
Braun wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 5:15 am
IFR controllers are ATC-6 as well as the 4 major control towers.
ATC-7 is for supervisors.
Thanks for the response Braun, but I'm interested in the FIC specific pay scales. I have the ATSAC CBA but I just don't know what the FIC pay-level is. If someone from the ATSAC side could chime in or PM me, it would be appreciated.
Yeah, no worries, I got that. Was just clarifying to the ACC/IFR part. I have no idea what the FSS/FIC pay rates are. Sorry.
Re: FSS FIC Pay Rates
Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2021 10:47 am
by DHC-1 Jockey
kashep wrote: ↑Fri Jul 16, 2021 2:55 am
1, 2, 3 is years of service, you move up one step on the anniversary of your checkout.
I believe the FICs are considered D level sites, supervisors would be E level.
Thanks for the info, Kashep.
Re: FSS FIC Pay Rates
Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2021 1:20 pm
by thenoflyzone
I noticed there is an FSS-ATS-G and H scales of pay as well. Who is that for?