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PPL on floats
Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2021 12:54 pm
by Freetime
Can you get your PPL entirely on a floatplane?
Re: PPL on floats
Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2021 12:57 pm
by fish4life
Yes
Re: PPL on floats
Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2021 2:08 pm
by Bede
Almost. You still need spin training and I know of no float plane that is approved for spins.
A few years ago I did a PPL on a Citabria. We went out for one flight in a 150 for spins (and taxiing lol).
Re: PPL on floats
Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2021 2:49 pm
by Conflicting Traffic
Bede wrote: ↑Sun Jul 18, 2021 2:08 pm
A few years ago I did a PPL on a Citabria. We went out for one flight in a 150 for spins (and taxiing lol).
Interesting. Did your student have a landplane rating at the end of his/her licence? CAR 421.38(2) spells out more requirements:
CARs wrote:
(2) Landplane Rating - Requirements
(a) Experience
An applicant for a landplane rating shall complete the following:
(i) a total of 3 hours of landplane training including:
(A) a minimum of 2 hours dual instruction, and
(B) a minimum of 5 takeoffs and five landings as sole occupant of the aeroplane.
(ii) The following exercises shall be included in the landplane training:
(A) taxiing,
(B) landings, including crosswind landings, and
(C) takeoffs.
Re: PPL on floats
Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2021 2:59 pm
by digits_
Bede wrote: ↑Sun Jul 18, 2021 2:08 pm
Almost. You still need spin training and I know of no float plane that is approved for spins.
A few years ago I did a PPL on a Citabria. We went out for one flight in a 150 for spins (and taxiing lol).
And sideslips apparently

Re: PPL on floats
Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2021 3:32 pm
by photofly
I've wondered about a PPL flight test on floats. The landing and takeoff exercises would have to be float-appropriate, as would the forced approach. I wonder what a precautionary landing would look like.
Re: PPL on floats
Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2021 3:59 pm
by digits_
photofly wrote: ↑Sun Jul 18, 2021 3:32 pm
I've wondered about a PPL flight test on floats. The landing and takeoff exercises would have to be float-appropriate, as would the forced approach. I wonder what a precautionary landing would look like.
Probably the same as every approach/landing into an unfamiliar lake.
Forced approach would be easier. You could survive water and land landings.
I'd be curious to see how a super nervous student could possibly *not* end up in the water while crawling around the plane during the pre flight inspection with an examiner asking questions and possibly being in the way, or standing on the float while approaching the dock and *just* missing the dock
Side note: are there any FTUs around that are approved to train for land ratings?
Re: PPL on floats
Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2021 4:04 pm
by PilotDAR
My friend in Norway did his PPL there on a PA-18 on floats, then a bit of 180 floatplane. He had not flown a landplane at all. He had to do ten hours training in a 172 to get a landplane rating, so I could train him in the 182 amphibian.
Re: PPL on floats
Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2021 5:23 pm
by photofly
Something we've discussed here before is that you don't need a landplane rating to fly an amphib in Canada

Re: PPL on floats
Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2021 5:41 pm
by Freetime
Thanks for the answers, everyone!
Re: PPL on floats
Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2021 6:25 pm
by PilotDAR
Something we've discussed here before is that you don't need a landplane rating to fly an amphib in Canada
Yeah, but how do I explain to the insurance company that I want to check him out, then let him loose in an expensive amphib, on a runway in winter, with zero wheel time?
Re: PPL on floats
Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2021 6:27 pm
by photofly
Oh I agree he *should* have one…
Re: PPL on floats
Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2021 7:07 pm
by Bede
Conflicting Traffic wrote: ↑Sun Jul 18, 2021 2:49 pm
Interesting. Did your student have a landplane rating at the end of his/her licence?
No. Landplane rating was done after- on skis.
That student went 0-PPL flight test in 35 hours. He was sharper than normal, but the big thing it made me realize was how much wasted time is involved in a big airport. No taxi time, no transit to practice area, circuits at 500', no go arounds because of conflicting traffic, etc.
Flight test was normal landing and obstacle landing. Precautionary was done at the lake where they did the obstacle landing. Instrument was partial panel because there was no 6-pack.
Re: PPL on floats
Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2021 12:58 am
by Squaretail
but the big thing it made me realize was how much wasted time is involved in a big airport
The time savings are enormous if you got your own patch to play and learn at. The stuff to be learned with traffic in the way can be learned later at leisure.
Re: PPL on floats
Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2021 8:57 am
by matt17
I got my RPP on floats at Sudbury Aviation a few years back. Still only have a float rating. Worked out well for me as I finished with 50 hours of "float time" (including 6 hours of post flight test rental time) which made it possible to find insurance when I purchased a plane.