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Recalls

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How many Ts pilots recalled to date? On how many.

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Re: Recalls

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Looks like the list sits at about 665 right now. As of October 1 2021 #355 is the last recalled and by March 17 2021 we will be at #553. That's if nobody else takes a leave or extends their leave, then we will end up further down the list.
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Did the recalled pilots have to take any concessions eg reduced block month of any other type of pay reduction?
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paddy wrote: Mon Oct 18, 2021 4:42 pm Did the recalled pilots have to take any concessions eg reduced block month of any other type of pay reduction?
All pilots @ 65h.
The real pay reduction is from the insurance (long term disability): 1000$ per month taken out from my paycheck.
ALL THIS IS JUST RIDICULOUS. The Canadian dream..
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FL320 wrote: Mon Oct 18, 2021 6:50 pm
paddy wrote: Mon Oct 18, 2021 4:42 pm Did the recalled pilots have to take any concessions eg reduced block month of any other type of pay reduction?
All pilots @ 65h.
The real pay reduction is from the insurance (long term disability): 1000$ per month taken out from my paycheck.
ALL THIS IS JUST RIDICULOUS. The Canadian dream..
Wait, what? You have to pay back LTD?
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imjustlurking wrote: Mon Oct 18, 2021 6:54 pm
FL320 wrote: Mon Oct 18, 2021 6:50 pm
paddy wrote: Mon Oct 18, 2021 4:42 pm Did the recalled pilots have to take any concessions eg reduced block month of any other type of pay reduction?
All pilots @ 65h.
The real pay reduction is from the insurance (long term disability): 1000$ per month taken out from my paycheck.
ALL THIS IS JUST RIDICULOUS. The Canadian dream..
Wait, what? You have to pay back LTD?
We pay for our premiums and if we go on LTD the payment are tax free. When the employer pays for the premium the payments are taxed. We have about 10% of the pilots on LTD and many are top scale, drives the premiums up, a lot.
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TFTMB heavy wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 5:15 am
imjustlurking wrote: Mon Oct 18, 2021 6:54 pm
FL320 wrote: Mon Oct 18, 2021 6:50 pm

All pilots @ 65h.
The real pay reduction is from the insurance (long term disability): 1000$ per month taken out from my paycheck.
ALL THIS IS JUST RIDICULOUS. The Canadian dream..
Wait, what? You have to pay back LTD?
We pay for our premiums and if we go on LTD the payment are tax free. When the employer pays for the premium the payments are taxed. We have about 10% of the pilots on LTD and many are top scale, drives the premiums up, a lot.
Ten percent seems like a disproportionately large number. Is this the Transat Long-Term Disability Retirement Plan? :lol:
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TFTMB heavy wrote: Sat Oct 02, 2021 9:34 am Looks like the list sits at about 665 right now. As of October 1 2021 #355 is the last recalled and by March 17 2021 we will be at #553. That's if nobody else takes a leave or extends their leave, then we will end up further down the list.
How far down the list will it go for Nov-Dec?
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JoeyBarton wrote: Mon Oct 25, 2021 9:11 am
TFTMB heavy wrote: Sat Oct 02, 2021 9:34 am Looks like the list sits at about 665 right now. As of October 1 2021 #355 is the last recalled and by March 17 2021 we will be at #553. That's if nobody else takes a leave or extends their leave, then we will end up further down the list.
How far down the list will it go for Nov-Dec?
430 ish
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Re: Recalls

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TFTMB heavy wrote: Tue Oct 26, 2021 2:28 pm
JoeyBarton wrote: Mon Oct 25, 2021 9:11 am
TFTMB heavy wrote: Sat Oct 02, 2021 9:34 am Looks like the list sits at about 665 right now. As of October 1 2021 #355 is the last recalled and by March 17 2021 we will be at #553. That's if nobody else takes a leave or extends their leave, then we will end up further down the list.
How far down the list will it go for Nov-Dec?
430 ish
Good to hear. What's that DOH equivalent to? 2015?
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Re: Recalls

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JoeyBarton wrote: Thu Oct 28, 2021 5:52 am
TFTMB heavy wrote: Tue Oct 26, 2021 2:28 pm
JoeyBarton wrote: Mon Oct 25, 2021 9:11 am

How far down the list will it go for Nov-Dec?
430 ish
Good to hear. What's that DOH equivalent to? 2015?
Some from 2014
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Re: Recalls

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Wow. Sounds like bottom of the list will be out 2+ years. Same for SWG.
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rudder wrote: Thu Oct 28, 2021 7:10 am Wow. Sounds like bottom of the list will be out 2+ years. Same for SWG.
Sunwing has over 50% of pilots back fully-recalled (at a reduced 55 MMG). All pilots are going through SIM to get recurrent and more recalls are expected shortly with the positive news regarding easing of travel restrictions and the possibility of smaller airports opening for international arrivals again.
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DHC-1 Jockey wrote: Thu Oct 28, 2021 12:40 pm
rudder wrote: Thu Oct 28, 2021 7:10 am Wow. Sounds like bottom of the list will be out 2+ years. Same for SWG.
Sunwing has over 50% of pilots back fully-recalled (at a reduced 55 MMG). All pilots are going through SIM to get recurrent and more recalls are expected shortly with the positive news regarding easing of travel restrictions and the possibility of smaller airports opening for international arrivals again.
Sunwing is doing recurrents for all for 50% recalls? One can get trained without being recalled?
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Re: Recalls

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JoeyBarton wrote: Sat Oct 30, 2021 7:09 am Sunwing is doing recurrents for all for 50% recalls? One can get trained without being recalled?
We have 2 separate LOU's: one for training and one for recall to line flying.

As part of recent negotiations, it was agreed that every pilot would be recalled for recurrent training (with the ability to decline if they wished). Once training was completed, pilots are laid off again until they get recalled to the line for flying duties, which again the pilot has the right to pass on if they wish. Right now, I know that recall offers for line flying have gone out to about 75% of the pilots. The junior 25% are currently beginning SIM but haven't been offered a recall to the line yet. This all designed to have every pilot current in case of a rapid ramp-up in operations.

Some pilots will accept the training recall for the additional money but decline the flying recall as they may have other jobs that are paying more than the current 55 MMG and can't afford to leave wherever they are currently to come back for reduced hours.
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Re: Recalls

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TFTMB heavy wrote: Thu Oct 28, 2021 7:01 am
JoeyBarton wrote: Thu Oct 28, 2021 5:52 am
TFTMB heavy wrote: Tue Oct 26, 2021 2:28 pm

430 ish
Good to hear. What's that DOH equivalent to? 2015?
Some from 2014
They are recalling November 2015 now. That's 65.8% of the company recalled. More to come in December, January, February and March as per LOU. DOH 2018 will be recalled in February and March. Guaranteed recalls until march 2022 accounts for 82% of the company.
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Re: Recalls

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Re: Recalls

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Interesting that the majority of flying appears to be out of YUL now.

What does the future look like for YYZ base in terms of relative sizing for the crews?
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indieadventurer wrote: Sat Nov 13, 2021 11:11 am Interesting that the majority of flying appears to be out of YUL now.

What does the future look like for YYZ base in terms of relative sizing for the crews?
Not really? Around 40% of the flying is from YYZ?
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Re: Recalls

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So what's the latest on these recalls?
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