Authorized for emergency use?
Re: Question about Company Vaccine Mandates
Has transport clarified the issue of ‘approved vaccine’ and ‘medical trial, including vaccines’?
Cause the covid vax are still in trial, and being part of a medical trial is incompatible with aviation medically
The vax are still only approved for emergency use, which is different from full approval after the trials.
From Tyler brooks of TC medical.
https://www.h-a-c.ca/CIVIL_AVIATION_IND ... UMMARY.pdf
Cause the covid vax are still in trial, and being part of a medical trial is incompatible with aviation medically
The vax are still only approved for emergency use, which is different from full approval after the trials.
From Tyler brooks of TC medical.
https://www.h-a-c.ca/CIVIL_AVIATION_IND ... UMMARY.pdf
Re: Question about Company Vaccine Mandates
Either you are late to the party or you must be trolling.hotdog1 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 05, 2021 8:22 am Has transport clarified the issue of ‘approved vaccine’ and ‘medical trial, including vaccines’?
Cause the covid vax are still in trial, and being part of a medical trial is incompatible with aviation medically
The vax are still only approved for emergency use, which is different from full approval after the trials.
From Tyler brooks of TC medical.
https://www.h-a-c.ca/CIVIL_AVIATION_IND ... UMMARY.pdf
Try this:
https://tc.canada.ca/en/aviation/medica ... te-holders
That took me 30 seconds on Google to find itCOVID-19 vaccines that have been approved by Health Canada (Moderna Spikevax*, Pfizer-BioNTech Comirnaty*, AstraZeneca Vaxzevria*, and Janssen (Johnson & Johnson)), are considered compatible with Transport Canada aviation Medical Certification.
Re: Question about Company Vaccine Mandates
Either you don’t understand the word games the govt/TC use.TG wrote: ↑Fri Nov 05, 2021 8:56 amEither you are late to the party or you must be trolling.hotdog1 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 05, 2021 8:22 am Has transport clarified the issue of ‘approved vaccine’ and ‘medical trial, including vaccines’?
Cause the covid vax are still in trial, and being part of a medical trial is incompatible with aviation medically
The vax are still only approved for emergency use, which is different from full approval after the trials.
From Tyler brooks of TC medical.
https://www.h-a-c.ca/CIVIL_AVIATION_IND ... UMMARY.pdf
Try this:
https://tc.canada.ca/en/aviation/medica ... te-holdersThat took me 30 seconds on Google to find itCOVID-19 vaccines that have been approved by Health Canada (Moderna Spikevax*, Pfizer-BioNTech Comirnaty*, AstraZeneca Vaxzevria*, and Janssen (Johnson & Johnson)), are considered compatible with Transport Canada aviation Medical Certification.
They are not ‘fully approved’.
They are still in third phase trials.
They are only approved for emergency use.
Try more than 30 seconds to confirm your bias and be a covid hero. Lol
But I like your irresistible need to call someone a troll.
Do you always give trolls credibility by responding?
If you can’t acknowledge the facts being ‘still in third phase trial’, ‘emergency use authorization’ and TC’s love of word games and confusion, please move on.
Re: Question about Company Vaccine Mandates
lolhotdog1 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 05, 2021 9:08 amEither you don’t understand the word games the govt/TC use.TG wrote: ↑Fri Nov 05, 2021 8:56 amEither you are late to the party or you must be trolling.hotdog1 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 05, 2021 8:22 am Has transport clarified the issue of ‘approved vaccine’ and ‘medical trial, including vaccines’?
Cause the covid vax are still in trial, and being part of a medical trial is incompatible with aviation medically
The vax are still only approved for emergency use, which is different from full approval after the trials.
From Tyler brooks of TC medical.
https://www.h-a-c.ca/CIVIL_AVIATION_IND ... UMMARY.pdf
Try this:
https://tc.canada.ca/en/aviation/medica ... te-holdersThat took me 30 seconds on Google to find itCOVID-19 vaccines that have been approved by Health Canada (Moderna Spikevax*, Pfizer-BioNTech Comirnaty*, AstraZeneca Vaxzevria*, and Janssen (Johnson & Johnson)), are considered compatible with Transport Canada aviation Medical Certification.
They are not ‘fully approved’.
They are still in third phase trials.
They are only approved for emergency use.
Try more than 30 seconds to confirm your bias and be a covid hero. Lol
But I like your irresistible need to call someone a troll.
Do you always give trolls credibility by responding?
If you can’t acknowledge the facts being ‘still in third phase trial’, ‘emergency use authorization’ and TC’s love of word games and confusion, please move on.
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Re: Question about Company Vaccine Mandates
The term that was used was "authorized for emergency use."hotdog1 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 05, 2021 9:08 am Either you don’t understand the word games the govt/TC use.
They are not ‘fully approved’.
They are still in third phase trials.
They are only approved for emergency use.
Try more than 30 seconds to confirm your bias and be a covid hero. Lol
But I like your irresistible need to call someone a troll.
Do you always give trolls credibility by responding?
If you can’t acknowledge the facts being ‘still in third phase trial’, ‘emergency use authorization’ and TC’s love of word games and confusion, please move on.
They are now "Approved by Health Canada."
They are way beyond stage 3. The vaccines are in stage 4. Take a quick read
Re: Question about Company Vaccine Mandates
There is a sucker born every minute. Did you read the fine print on the "approved" part? Look into it. Now Italy has reclassified Covid deaths. This drops their death rate by 90%. No longer a pandemic. Doesn't even surpass flu deaths. And why are we being mandated for a vax?
Re: Question about Company Vaccine Mandates
imjustlurking wrote: ↑Fri Nov 05, 2021 10:02 amThe term that was used was "authorized for emergency use."hotdog1 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 05, 2021 9:08 am Either you don’t understand the word games the govt/TC use.
They are not ‘fully approved’.
They are still in third phase trials.
They are only approved for emergency use.
Try more than 30 seconds to confirm your bias and be a covid hero. Lol
But I like your irresistible need to call someone a troll.
Do you always give trolls credibility by responding?
If you can’t acknowledge the facts being ‘still in third phase trial’, ‘emergency use authorization’ and TC’s love of word games and confusion, please move on.
They are now "Approved by Health Canada."
They are way beyond stage 3. The vaccines are in stage 4. Take a quick read
So what about this.
For anyone with a ‘mix and match’ dose, the trial doesn’t end until March 2023
Re: Question about Company Vaccine Mandates
It’s obviously wrong to question the authorities about covid, but I guess they missed the VAERS information when continuing covid vaccine trials(health Canada has changed the definition of vaccine-but that’s ok don’t question that lol)
Remember that 53 deaths during the H1N1 swine flu vaccine trials was too many to be considered safe and the trials were stopped
But here’s the covid data and it keeps going!!
I’ll leave it at that. Lol
https://cf5e727d-d02d-4d71-89ff-9fe2d3a ... a07322.pdf
Remember that 53 deaths during the H1N1 swine flu vaccine trials was too many to be considered safe and the trials were stopped
But here’s the covid data and it keeps going!!
I’ll leave it at that. Lol
https://cf5e727d-d02d-4d71-89ff-9fe2d3a ... a07322.pdf
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Re: Question about Company Vaccine Mandates
Nice whataboutism.hotdog1 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 05, 2021 11:13 amimjustlurking wrote: ↑Fri Nov 05, 2021 10:02 amThe term that was used was "authorized for emergency use."hotdog1 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 05, 2021 9:08 am Either you don’t understand the word games the govt/TC use.
They are not ‘fully approved’.
They are still in third phase trials.
They are only approved for emergency use.
Try more than 30 seconds to confirm your bias and be a covid hero. Lol
But I like your irresistible need to call someone a troll.
Do you always give trolls credibility by responding?
If you can’t acknowledge the facts being ‘still in third phase trial’, ‘emergency use authorization’ and TC’s love of word games and confusion, please move on.
They are now "Approved by Health Canada."
They are way beyond stage 3. The vaccines are in stage 4. Take a quick read
So what about this.
For anyone with a ‘mix and match’ dose, the trial doesn’t end until March 2023
The vaccines are still approved.
It's obvious that you don't look up the details for any other medication, so why are you so focused on the COVID vaccine?
Can you tell me the potential side effects of the Tylenol or Advil that you took last week? What about the flu shot you had two years ago?
Re: Question about Company Vaccine Mandates
The vaccines are not approved in the medical sense. They are authorized by way of an Interim Order
Re: Question about Company Vaccine Mandates
Troll.hotdog1 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 05, 2021 9:08 amEither you don’t understand the word games the govt/TC use.TG wrote: ↑Fri Nov 05, 2021 8:56 amEither you are late to the party or you must be trolling.hotdog1 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 05, 2021 8:22 am Has transport clarified the issue of ‘approved vaccine’ and ‘medical trial, including vaccines’?
Cause the covid vax are still in trial, and being part of a medical trial is incompatible with aviation medically
The vax are still only approved for emergency use, which is different from full approval after the trials.
From Tyler brooks of TC medical.
https://www.h-a-c.ca/CIVIL_AVIATION_IND ... UMMARY.pdf
Try this:
https://tc.canada.ca/en/aviation/medica ... te-holdersThat took me 30 seconds on Google to find itCOVID-19 vaccines that have been approved by Health Canada (Moderna Spikevax*, Pfizer-BioNTech Comirnaty*, AstraZeneca Vaxzevria*, and Janssen (Johnson & Johnson)), are considered compatible with Transport Canada aviation Medical Certification.
They are not ‘fully approved’.
They are still in third phase trials.
They are only approved for emergency use.
Try more than 30 seconds to confirm your bias and be a covid hero. Lol
But I like your irresistible need to call someone a troll.
Do you always give trolls credibility by responding?
If you can’t acknowledge the facts being ‘still in third phase trial’, ‘emergency use authorization’ and TC’s love of word games and confusion, please move on.
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Re: Authorized for emergency use?
So it’s fair to assume that those pilots who refuse to get vaccinated on the grounds that the vaccines are too new and in their mind, not fully worthy of being taken, are also pilots who never accept an aircraft as “airworthy” when there’s a MEL item in the logbook.
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Re: Question about Company Vaccine Mandates
Really? That's the best you could come up with?
Enjoy not being a pilot.
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Re: Authorized for emergency use?
The proper opposite would be shutting down the airline over too many cases of MEL.Capt. Underpants wrote: ↑Sat Nov 06, 2021 9:20 am So it’s fair to assume that those pilots who refuse to get vaccinated on the grounds that the vaccines are too new and in their mind, not fully worthy of being taken, are also pilots who never accept an aircraft as “airworthy” when there’s a MEL item in the logbook.
Re: Question about Company Vaccine Mandates
imjustlurking wrote: ↑Fri Nov 05, 2021 12:11 pmNice whataboutism.hotdog1 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 05, 2021 11:13 amimjustlurking wrote: ↑Fri Nov 05, 2021 10:02 am
The term that was used was "authorized for emergency use."
They are now "Approved by Health Canada."
They are way beyond stage 3. The vaccines are in stage 4. Take a quick read
So what about this.
For anyone with a ‘mix and match’ dose, the trial doesn’t end until March 2023
The vaccines are still approved.
It's obvious that you don't look up the details for any other medication, so why are you so focused on the COVID vaccine?
Can you tell me the potential side effects of the Tylenol or Advil that you took last week? What about the flu shot you had two years ago?
Yes, the side effects of Tylenol are very well known
It’s nice you mention the ‘flu shot’-why didn’t you call it a ‘flu vaccine’??
It does the same as the ‘covid vaccine’
Have you asked why health Canada has redefined the word ‘vaccine’ from the commonly understood and accepted dictionary/medical definitions?
I don’t need to look up other medication side effects-they arent experimental RNA treatments.
Ask yourself why there isn’t a covid ‘vaccine’ of the old fashioned deadened/weakened virus , like the flu shot.
It’s obvious you don’t like to read anything outside your echo chamber.
The vaccines are still only approved for emergency use.
That is different from final approval after all trials and conclusions are peer reviewed.
‘Nice whataboutism’-give the virtue signalling cries a rest
Good luck with your endless boosters on the way.
And with an available pill, claimed by pfizer(whom you trust) to be even more effective at preventing serious illness and death-there is no more need to force vaccinations is there?
So why not admit there is no more need for mandates?
Also, it’s an old use of logic-if the vaccine works and protects you, why do you feel the need to force others to take it ?
You are safe if you take it and anyone else’s status wouldn’t matter.
Re: Question about Company Vaccine Mandates
Hot Wings wrote: ↑Fri Nov 05, 2021 3:41 pmTroll.hotdog1 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 05, 2021 9:08 amEither you don’t understand the word games the govt/TC use.TG wrote: ↑Fri Nov 05, 2021 8:56 am
Either you are late to the party or you must be trolling.
Try this:
https://tc.canada.ca/en/aviation/medica ... te-holders
That took me 30 seconds on Google to find it
They are not ‘fully approved’.
They are still in third phase trials.
They are only approved for emergency use.
Try more than 30 seconds to confirm your bias and be a covid hero. Lol
But I like your irresistible need to call someone a troll.
Do you always give trolls credibility by responding?
If you can’t acknowledge the facts being ‘still in third phase trial’, ‘emergency use authorization’ and TC’s love of word games and confusion, please move on.
Don’t have any real data to rebut anything? Lol
-call someone a troll, be sooo self righteous and virtuous that you just have to respond with a silly insult.
That’s ok, it’s what the woke crowd does to earn social credit while claiming to be compassionate and inclusive
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Re: Question about Company Vaccine Mandates
I called it the flu shot because that's a well known colloquialism. I call it the COVID vaccine because that is what it is.hotdog1 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 07, 2021 12:49 pmimjustlurking wrote: ↑Fri Nov 05, 2021 12:11 pmNice whataboutism.
The vaccines are still approved.
It's obvious that you don't look up the details for any other medication, so why are you so focused on the COVID vaccine?
Can you tell me the potential side effects of the Tylenol or Advil that you took last week? What about the flu shot you had two years ago?
Yes, the side effects of Tylenol are very well known
It’s nice you mention the ‘flu shot’-why didn’t you call it a ‘flu vaccine’??
It does the same as the ‘covid vaccine’
Have you asked why health Canada has redefined the word ‘vaccine’ from the commonly understood and accepted dictionary/medical definitions?
I don’t need to look up other medication side effects-they arent experimental RNA treatments.
Ask yourself why there isn’t a covid ‘vaccine’ of the old fashioned deadened/weakened virus , like the flu shot.
It’s obvious you don’t like to read anything outside your echo chamber.
The vaccines are still only approved for emergency use.
That is different from final approval after all trials and conclusions are peer reviewed.
‘Nice whataboutism’-give the virtue signalling cries a rest
Good luck with your endless boosters on the way.
And with an available pill, claimed by pfizer(whom you trust) to be even more effective at preventing serious illness and death-there is no more need to force vaccinations is there?
So why not admit there is no more need for mandates?
Also, it’s an old use of logic-if the vaccine works and protects you, why do you feel the need to force others to take it ?
You are safe if you take it and anyone else’s status wouldn’t matter.
Please stop trying to sound smart. You claim that the COVID vaccine is not a vaccine because it's mRNA instead of viral vector is as dumb as someone saying that a propeller powered aircraft is not an airplane whereas jet powered aircraft are.
The vaccine is fully approved. It is in phase 4 of testing which takes years.
And to argue that we don't need vaccines because there is a treatment is almost as stupid as everything else you wrote. You still watch your airspeed even though your airliner has stick pushers. You still go for a spray even though your aircraft has anti-ice or de-ice.
Re: Question about Company Vaccine Mandates
If it’s in testing, it can’t be full approved. That’s jsut not how it works, no matter how much your feelings tell you.imjustlurking wrote: ↑Sun Nov 07, 2021 5:37 pmI called it the flu shot because that's a well known colloquialism. I call it the COVID vaccine because that is what it is.hotdog1 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 07, 2021 12:49 pmimjustlurking wrote: ↑Fri Nov 05, 2021 12:11 pm
Nice whataboutism.
The vaccines are still approved.
It's obvious that you don't look up the details for any other medication, so why are you so focused on the COVID vaccine?
Can you tell me the potential side effects of the Tylenol or Advil that you took last week? What about the flu shot you had two years ago?
Yes, the side effects of Tylenol are very well known
It’s nice you mention the ‘flu shot’-why didn’t you call it a ‘flu vaccine’??
It does the same as the ‘covid vaccine’
Have you asked why health Canada has redefined the word ‘vaccine’ from the commonly understood and accepted dictionary/medical definitions?
I don’t need to look up other medication side effects-they arent experimental RNA treatments.
Ask yourself why there isn’t a covid ‘vaccine’ of the old fashioned deadened/weakened virus , like the flu shot.
It’s obvious you don’t like to read anything outside your echo chamber.
The vaccines are still only approved for emergency use.
That is different from final approval after all trials and conclusions are peer reviewed.
‘Nice whataboutism’-give the virtue signalling cries a rest
Good luck with your endless boosters on the way.
And with an available pill, claimed by pfizer(whom you trust) to be even more effective at preventing serious illness and death-there is no more need to force vaccinations is there?
So why not admit there is no more need for mandates?
Also, it’s an old use of logic-if the vaccine works and protects you, why do you feel the need to force others to take it ?
You are safe if you take it and anyone else’s status wouldn’t matter.
Please stop trying to sound smart. You claim that the COVID vaccine is not a vaccine because it's mRNA instead of viral vector is as dumb as someone saying that a propeller powered aircraft is not an airplane whereas jet powered aircraft are.
The vaccine is fully approved. It is in phase 4 of testing which takes years.
And to argue that we don't need vaccines because there is a treatment is almost as stupid as everything else you wrote. You still watch your airspeed even though your airliner has stick pushers. You still go for a spray even though your aircraft has anti-ice or de-ice.
It’s not a vaccine.
The govt has changed the definition of vaccine to fit what they need
That’s quite Orwellian.
Why take a ‘vaccine’ with risks if there is a treatment that is better and has no risks? From a disease I most likely won’t even know I have.
Please try and read and comprehend.
The reason it’s not a vaccine is because it doesn’t fit the definition of vaccine, not because of the type it is.
They type it is relevant to the reason they are pushing it so hard, when the old fashioned kind work.
You have to question that.
Don’t forget, people like you vowed NEVER to take a vaccine developed so fast by trump and operation warp speed.
But here you are.
Trump says “you’re welcome”
I guess that makes you a trump supporter now, you do love his precious vaccines. Lol
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You are the one not "comprehending" But then you probably won't "comprehend" that you are not "comprehending"
Sometime the devil in me wishes that Darwin would take care of those dumbos thinking they know it all vaccin wise.
Then I shake my head and think no, no, no, can't do that