Hiring DEC's

[tbaylx]

In order to support 2022 growth Flair is now accepting applications for Direct Entry Captains.

https://career.flyflair.com/jobs

Direct Entry Captain Requirements
5000 Hours Total Time
2000 Hours 705 multi-engine Jet
500 Hours of 705 multi-engine Jet Pilot-In-Command

[Loon-A-Tic]

That should suck away some of the impatient, self-entitled ones at JZA, WJ, Swoop, Encore, Porter etc.

[YC87DRVR]

That should suck away some of the impatient, self-entitled ones at JZA, WJ, Swoop, Encore, Porter etc.

Are you saying someone leaving a regional like Jazz, Encore, Porter is impatient and entitled because they take a left seat spot on a 737? Really would like to know why that is? Do you not see that as taking a step forward for their career?

[Stinky]

What’s the pay? It’s not in the ad

[tbaylx]

The Flair pilot CBA is available online with current terms and conditions however it is expired and contract negotiations are underway for the next CBA. Pay levels in the old contract will be subject to change by 2022

[GIVCE!]

Hopefully the pay levels can be raised significantly in ‘22.

[LGHeyyy]

I hope so too. The junior FO pay is average, but after about year 2 they're left in the proverbial dust behind SW, and light years behind the new contract at TS. Year 4+ FO and Capt scales aren't remotely comparable between companies. I'd like to hear some speculation on what the new contract will bring, especially if they want to attract and retain some 600-700 pilots with their planned fleet?

On the plus side, haven't heard any complaints from the pilots though, so must be a decent place to work so far. That's worth it's weight in gold to some.

[Julien31130]

What is the payscale in the new contract at TS? Thanks.

[rwm1273]

The only way to get DEC at Flair is to have camel jockey time.

[GRK2]

The only way to get DEC at Flair is to have camel jockey time.

Wrong in so many ways...

[a380super]

2 questions.

Are the flights mostly turns?( no layover)
How many days at home( off duty) / month ( roughly)

Thks.

[tbaylx]

2 questions.

Are the flights mostly turns?( no layover)
How many days at home( off duty) / month ( roughly)

Thks.

Virtually all turns, only a couple of layovers in the entire system. Pilots are home every night. Most flying block schedules vary between 15-20 days off per month and 12-13 off on reserve blocks. We don't currently have grey days so any day without duty is a GDO.

[Arnie Pye]

I am not aware of anyone outside of the old guard who get 20 days off per month. You'd have to be at the top of the seniority list (top 3 maybe) and do all long turns to get that much time off.

[indieadventurer]

We don't currently have grey days so any day without duty is a GDO.

Is the company looking to change this?

Your use of the word "currently" caught my eye.

[tbaylx]

We don't currently have grey days so any day without duty is a GDO.

Is the company looking to change this?

Your use of the word "currently" caught my eye.

Contract negotiations are ongoign. Anything is possible I suppose.

[hamstandard]

I am not aware of anyone outside of the old guard who get 20 days off per month. You'd have to be at the top of the seniority list (top 3 maybe) and do all long turns to get that much time off.

It’s nice to hear the reality instead of the enticing lure of possibly 20 days off. In other words, expect 15 days off per month at most for a long time.

[GreenerPastures]

First time poster here and I have caught up on a few threads so far. I am only at the beginning stages of looking at moving to Canada, and I have an ICAO ATPL at the moment (11000hrs TT, 3000PIC on B737NG/MAX). I also dont have a work permit as of now but i am working to getting the ball rolling on that.

My question is would Flair assist in getting the work permit sorted out, to make the process easier/quicker? I have seen that the converions of ICAO to Canadian licence shouldnt be too much of a hassle but the work permit seems to be the main hold up.

thx in advance!

[GRK2]

Really short answer. No...you're on your own with this. Respectfully.

[GreenerPastures]

cool, thanks for the answer, I will try to slog it out the old fashioned way ;p

[Free Woodpecker]

We don't currently have grey days so any day without duty is a GDO.

Is the company looking to change this?

Your use of the word "currently" caught my eye.

Contract negotiations are ongoign. Anything is possible I suppose.

With typical overtime, what could a year one DEC expect to make year one with present contract? And how many days is per month worked on average once able to bid a monthly block?
Thanks!