The UnVaxxed Overflow Hospitals

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altiplano wrote: Mon Dec 20, 2021 4:47 pm
imjustlurking wrote: Mon Dec 20, 2021 2:41 pm
altiplano wrote: Mon Dec 20, 2021 2:19 pm

And that's all you got. Insults... again and again when you don't get the hit you're looking for from people agreeing with you you go straight to insults.

If that's what you have to contribute maybe you should take your own advice?

Or go take that trip to Florida you were talking about. That would be great.
Had you actually read the post above the one you're replying to, you would have seen this:
So now you're acknowledging that vaccinated peoples spread sarscov2.

So why were you denying my statement and then insulting me?

Go to Florida, go anywhere out of your bubble, and get some broader perspective on life and reality.
How did you manage to interpret that? Do you think that QRC and QRH use is optional too?
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Bede wrote: Tue Dec 21, 2021 7:27 am Image
"This plan may sound appealing to those who know a little about the immune system, but the drawbacks are clear to people who know a lot about the immune system and also to people who don't know anything about it."

Gotta include the HTML text when it comes to xkcd comics.
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Toronto raptors players are all getting a second round of infection apparently.

That Doc on Joe Rogan said its not possible... So I found the news interesting. But apparently these athletes are testing positive but are also asymptomatic.

But this is bad news all around. If natural immunity is not possible, I don't think vaccine immunity is possible either. Hence the boosters. Or can we accept that infection is fine and life as normal if asymptomatic?

Looks like vaccine or natural infection has a limited time immunity.
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CYERCaptainPooping wrote: Tue Dec 21, 2021 2:32 pm Toronto raptors players are all getting a second round of infection apparently.

That Doc on Joe Rogan said its not possible... So I found the news interesting. But apparently these athletes are testing positive but are also asymptomatic.

But this is bad news all around. If natural immunity is not possible, I don't think vaccine immunity is possible either. Hence the boosters. Or can we accept that infection is fine and life as normal if asymptomatic?

Looks like vaccine or natural infection has a limited time immunity.
Your body is full of viruses that can be dormant and be asymptomatic. If you’ve ever had a cold sore you already have the herpes virus (HSV1) and there is no cure for that. I don’t think the Covid is going away anytime soon but in a few years we will be looking back at it fondly when we realize what the future holds. :|
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The Vaccines, or natural immunity, have never once been claimed by anyone credible to guarantee against infection. That isn’t their purpose. Never has been.

That is a lying straw man argument that won’t die.

Stop lying.

It discredits any other points made by those doing this.
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Well, it was a aspiration. The best vaccines anyone could design were created - several different ones, by different groups - and they were all tested. It would have been credible if one or more of them had provided permanent effectively total protection, as some vaccines against some diseases do, but there was no way to know in advance, and nobody made any promises to that effect, for sure.

Don’t you remember the relief the world felt when the results of tests were that the efficacy was around eighty to ninety percent for the mRNA vaccines?
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https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 80394.html

Why is this doctor, Dr. Wen, saying cloth masks are nothing more than face decorations? She says they do zero to stop omniunicorn.

What is the science on this one?
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CYERCaptainPooping wrote: Wed Dec 22, 2021 9:02 am https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 80394.html

Why is this doctor, Dr. Wen, saying cloth masks are nothing more than face decorations? She says they do zero to stop omniunicorn.

What is the science on this one?
Wants her 15 seconds of fame? Like you?
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rookiepilot wrote: Tue Dec 21, 2021 7:53 pm The Vaccines, or natural immunity, have never once been claimed by anyone credible to guarantee against infection. That isn’t their purpose. Never has been.

That is a lying straw man argument that won’t die.

Stop lying.

It discredits any other points made by those doing this.
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :lol: :lol: :lol:

That is absolutely hilarious. You do realize now a days we have this thing called the internet that keeps videos around we all have access to right?

And here I leave you a video Max just posted completely destroying everything you just said. I would say many of those on the video are people you call "credible"

https://twitter.com/MaximeBernier/statu ... 29475?s=20

Oh and...

STOP LYING
It discredits any other points made by those doing this.
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rookiepilot wrote: Wed Dec 22, 2021 9:22 am
CYERCaptainPooping wrote: Wed Dec 22, 2021 9:02 am https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 80394.html

Why is this doctor, Dr. Wen, saying cloth masks are nothing more than face decorations? She says they do zero to stop omniunicorn.

What is the science on this one?
Wants her 15 seconds of fame? Like you?
You sound hypoxic. Maybe peel back a couple of your 5 mask layers, take a breath of fresh air so you can have a rational conversation.
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CYERCaptainPooping wrote: Wed Dec 22, 2021 9:55 am
rookiepilot wrote: Wed Dec 22, 2021 9:22 am
CYERCaptainPooping wrote: Wed Dec 22, 2021 9:02 am https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 80394.html

Why is this doctor, Dr. Wen, saying cloth masks are nothing more than face decorations? She says they do zero to stop omniunicorn.

What is the science on this one?
Wants her 15 seconds of fame? Like you?
You sound hypoxic. Maybe peel back a couple of your 5 mask layers, take a breath of fresh air so you can have a rational conversation.
Maxime's version of rational?
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Remember how we said we know masks work because we eradicated the flu in 2020!?

We also know masks work because delta is nearly eradicated too! It’s only 8 percent of cases in Ontario now, probably be gone in a week.

The trick is we have to train our masks… they recognize delta now because we taught them, however they don’t know omniunicorn yet.

In a few months they will be trained for omniunicorn recognition and this variant will go away too :lol:

Science! :lol:
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https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/22/business ... index.html

I just wanted to fap to this article.

This is from the guy who didn’t want vaccines to be generic (actually he back tracked from his original plan because the cha-Ching looked too good!) so we could produce them fast and protect people around the world. Definitely way better to meter production, keep supply low enough and demand higher… keep them profits rolling in!

Anyways thought you would all enjoy his message! We could be entering the darkest days of the pandemic!!!

🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑 cha-ching cha-ching

Dark days for you but he has a huge smile behind that mask.
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CYERCaptainPooping wrote: Wed Dec 22, 2021 1:23 pm https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/22/business ... index.html

I just wanted to fap to this article.

This is from the guy who didn’t want vaccines to be generic (actually he back tracked from his original plan because the cha-Ching looked too good!) so we could produce them fast and protect people around the world. Definitely way better to meter production, keep supply low enough and demand higher… keep them profits rolling in!

Anyways thought you would all enjoy his message! We could be entering the darkest days of the pandemic!!!

🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑 cha-ching cha-ching

Dark days for you but he has a huge smile behind that mask.
Now the kids are filling up the hospitals.....

https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavir ... -1.5721007

While Spinner sees little evidence the Omicron variant is causing more severe disease in children than previous variants did, he's also seeing no evidence it's milder.

"We do everything we can to keep a child out of the hospital. So if they're admitted to the hospital, then that means that they're already pretty sick," Spinner said.

"They're needing oxygen. They're needing some other assistance. Even if they're just really dehydrated, needing IV fluids, most of these kids that we're admitting for COVID-19 are kids that have respiratory issues -- that they need oxygen and they need other support. So they're going to be pretty sick. You know, you don't see kids that are not very sick in the hospital."

Most of the really sick children are unvaccinated or under-vaccinated, he said. "I can tell you that virtually all of our kids that are hospitalized have either been unvaccinated or not fully vaccinated -- maybe having received one dose but not having the second dose and not having the full protection from the vaccine," Spinner said.
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pelmet wrote: Tue Dec 28, 2021 8:57 am Now the kids are filling up the hospitals.....
Children under 12 make up 1.3% of all covid hospitalizations in Canada.
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Are you aware of the fact that the CDC no longer supports your beloved PCR test because it is so inaccurate it is effectively useless. Which is what the person who invented it has been saying from day 1. But he has been ridiculed by the masses. So this pretty much blows the lid off of this so-called pandemic.
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palebird wrote: Tue Dec 28, 2021 10:08 am Are you aware of the fact that the CDC no longer supports your beloved PCR test because it is so inaccurate it is effectively useless. Which is what the person who invented it has been saying from day 1. But he has been ridiculed by the masses. So this pretty much blows the lid off of this so-called pandemic.
Hmmm, how about all those cancelled surgeries and patients being airlifted to other jurisdictions.

They never answer that.
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palebird wrote: Tue Dec 28, 2021 10:08 am Are you aware of the fact that the CDC no longer supports your beloved PCR test because it is so inaccurate it is effectively useless.
I'd like to read the source from cdc.gov that backs up your claim.
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pelmet wrote: Tue Dec 28, 2021 8:57 am

Now the kids are filling up the hospitals.....
The Ontario chief medical officer of health appears to disagree.
Despite uncertainties around the Omicron variant, Moore said at the time that experts he has consulted with currently “don’t see a reason” to make changes to the planned return.
He noted that Omicron doesn’t currently appear to have “any significant impact on children’s health,” referenced vaccinations among those aged 5 to 11, and said measures are in place to keep schools safe.
https://apple.news/A1wP5Qr6YRveMCrTYlv_KOQ
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